| Owlstalk delusions 18:01 - Apr 11 with 6516 views | BlueNomad |
From being so negative pre-Accrington Owlstalk has turned their attention to “who we should sign from L1 next season.” Morsy, Chaplin, Davis and “the lad who scored the free kick against us” are all discussed.
Another draw or defeat and they will go into meltdown again. |  | | |  |
| Owlstalk delusions on 11:44 - Apr 12 with 1386 views | clive_baker |
The way I see it is this:
Sheffield Wednesday are a big club, certainly relative to a lot of the sh1t in L1. If the league started again and ranked everyone on various criteria they wouldn't be in the 3rd tier. I don't think we would either to be fair, or Derby. All 3 are bigger clubs than a lot of those in the Championship.
It's hard to look objectively and without bias when you watch your team week in week out, that goes for all fans of all clubs, but I do genuinely think we're better than them. We rank top in just about every metric, we've lost less than anyone, nobody has scored more than us, nobody has conceded less and we have a (very marginally) better PPG. And we've been mugged countless times this season, not least at Hillsborough.
They've got some decent players - Smith, Windass, Vaulks, Palmer etc, all seasoned pros but none with a ceiling as high as 4 or 5 of ours. It's hard to take a team seriously with 37 year old David Stockdale in goal though, he was sh1t 5 years ago, the bloke couldn't save a Word document.
We'll finish above them this season but I wouldn't resent them going up. Nothing against them as a club other than the sh1thouses who threw coins at our players. |  |
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| Owlstalk delusions on 11:57 - Apr 12 with 1347 views | Ryorry |
Too funny - they keep posting away in blithe ignorance.
Can't expect them to know that Mullet lives in Manchester & posts ironically, or that Frimmers regularly gets record down-votes for daft comments on here, but you'd have thought they would bother to acquaint themselves with the fact that we had our own "horrific injury list" too - only it happened a lot earlier than theirs, ie during our poor run in autumn/winter. |  |
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| Owlstalk delusions on 12:04 - Apr 12 with 1334 views | NthQldITFC |
| Owlstalk delusions on 09:03 - Apr 12 by OldFart71 |
Don't know where fans of any other club get's the idea that our fans believe we are a big club and deserve anything. I personally have always said that no club deserves to be anywhere in any league. No one has a divine right to be anywhere but where they are. We as a club have tread water now for around 20 seasons with the occasional glimpse of what could be. But due to many factors such as owners and the managers brought in by them we have flattered to deceive. How many seasons have we entered a new season full of hope and promises only to see them fade and players sold and lesser replacements brought in. Whole squads virtually shown the door. Been told there's money to spend and that only players that improve us will be brought in, only for old has-beens and players that are no better or worse than those we have or have departed brought in. The people that truly deserve a change of luck are the very supporters spoken about by fans of other clubs as being arrogant and believe we are better than we are or have been. Jealousy is a terrible thing, whether as an individual or as a group. Would I like to be a millionaire, you're damned right I would. Would I like to have a girl on my arm with legs right up to her pert behind and a flashy car or two in my gated driveway. Of course I would. But I don't expect I ever will and I don't begrudge those that have these things. We are lucky in that we have Gamechanger as our owners, we are not delusional in thinking that they have an ulterior motive in their purchase of ITFC. Which fans of any club wouldn't want to have owners that are prepared to put their money where their mouth is. We haven't changed as a rural club, except for the better. We love our Suffolk roots and have a passion worthy of any club. Please don't see us as arrogant, just proud of a club hopefully going places at long last. |
I truly don't see a big club mentality on here, not in the slightest. I see a "we've got the best team and squad in terms of quality of football in this division" mentality and I think that is wholly accurate. I wonder whether that is getting badly translated into entitlement or Billy-big-ballocks attitude?
Wednesday have a bigger fanbase than us, come from a bigger conurbation and have a great pre-war honours list, although I was surprised to see they haven't won a major trophy since the FA Cup in1935, and they've done little more than 'participate' in Europe! Despite that I'd still see them as a 'bigger' club than us or at least similar, given our more recent and European success.
Plymouth have a decent following, but have never been a successful club. I'd see us and Wednesday as 'bigger' than Plymouth.
But at the end of the day, 'big club' is always a subjective opinion with no agreed criteria. As for 'deserving' anything, that's easy, it's entirely based on points total at the end of the season. |  |
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| Owlstalk delusions on 12:14 - Apr 12 with 1280 views | Mullet |
| Owlstalk delusions on 11:57 - Apr 12 by Ryorry |
Too funny - they keep posting away in blithe ignorance.
Can't expect them to know that Mullet lives in Manchester & posts ironically, or that Frimmers regularly gets record down-votes for daft comments on here, but you'd have thought they would bother to acquaint themselves with the fact that we had our own "horrific injury list" too - only it happened a lot earlier than theirs, ie during our poor run in autumn/winter. |
I'm more baffled he thinks that going to Ipswich would be "an away day" regardless. |  |
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| Owlstalk delusions on 13:44 - Apr 12 with 1140 views | Stu_Magoo |
They took Frimley as the baseline Ipswich fan. |  |
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| Owlstalk delusions on 20:03 - Apr 12 with 924 views | Coastalblue |
| Owlstalk delusions on 13:44 - Apr 12 by Stu_Magoo |
They took Frimley as the baseline Ipswich fan. |
Yeah, easy mistake to make.
TBF, reading through that thread most of them seem quite reasonable, with the odd occasional tw4t, no different to most teams in reality.
Funny to think the outside world thinks we're all like Frimmers though |  |
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| Owlstalk delusions on 20:29 - Apr 12 with 873 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Owlstalk delusions on 20:27 - Apr 11 by Simonds92 |
If it had, i think we'd be scratching around to be honest, i dont think we'd be happy with signing many of theirs. |
Iorfa, Bakinson, Aiden Flint, Bannon, Stockdale, Vaulks, Gregory.
Oh yes, I see what you mean!
Windass would be the only one I could imagine we might look at but I wouldn't expect us to. |  |
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| Imagine anyone thinking that this place.... on 20:43 - Apr 12 with 843 views | Bloots |
....is in the slightest bit representative of the wider Ipswich fanbase!!
It's essentially a load of divs that know very little about football, rarely actually go to matches and just spend all day everyday on the internet calling each other racists.
FFS. |  |
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| Imagine anyone thinking that this place.... on 20:45 - Apr 12 with 816 views | Coastalblue |
| Imagine anyone thinking that this place.... on 20:43 - Apr 12 by Bloots |
....is in the slightest bit representative of the wider Ipswich fanbase!!
It's essentially a load of divs that know very little about football, rarely actually go to matches and just spend all day everyday on the internet calling each other racists.
FFS. |
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| Owlstalk delusions on 22:50 - Apr 12 with 686 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Owlstalk delusions on 11:44 - Apr 12 by clive_baker |
The way I see it is this:
Sheffield Wednesday are a big club, certainly relative to a lot of the sh1t in L1. If the league started again and ranked everyone on various criteria they wouldn't be in the 3rd tier. I don't think we would either to be fair, or Derby. All 3 are bigger clubs than a lot of those in the Championship.
It's hard to look objectively and without bias when you watch your team week in week out, that goes for all fans of all clubs, but I do genuinely think we're better than them. We rank top in just about every metric, we've lost less than anyone, nobody has scored more than us, nobody has conceded less and we have a (very marginally) better PPG. And we've been mugged countless times this season, not least at Hillsborough.
They've got some decent players - Smith, Windass, Vaulks, Palmer etc, all seasoned pros but none with a ceiling as high as 4 or 5 of ours. It's hard to take a team seriously with 37 year old David Stockdale in goal though, he was sh1t 5 years ago, the bloke couldn't save a Word document.
We'll finish above them this season but I wouldn't resent them going up. Nothing against them as a club other than the sh1thouses who threw coins at our players. |
What determines the size of the club, though?
Where would Bolton, Charlton and Portsmouth rank too?
Ultimately Wednesday and Town have bigger budgets than most, if not all, other clubs at this level. All that means to me is that Schumacher deserves manager of the season far more than McKenna or Darren Moore do. | |
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| Owlstalk delusions on 23:17 - Apr 12 with 626 views | Vegtablue |
| Owlstalk delusions on 11:44 - Apr 12 by clive_baker |
The way I see it is this:
Sheffield Wednesday are a big club, certainly relative to a lot of the sh1t in L1. If the league started again and ranked everyone on various criteria they wouldn't be in the 3rd tier. I don't think we would either to be fair, or Derby. All 3 are bigger clubs than a lot of those in the Championship.
It's hard to look objectively and without bias when you watch your team week in week out, that goes for all fans of all clubs, but I do genuinely think we're better than them. We rank top in just about every metric, we've lost less than anyone, nobody has scored more than us, nobody has conceded less and we have a (very marginally) better PPG. And we've been mugged countless times this season, not least at Hillsborough.
They've got some decent players - Smith, Windass, Vaulks, Palmer etc, all seasoned pros but none with a ceiling as high as 4 or 5 of ours. It's hard to take a team seriously with 37 year old David Stockdale in goal though, he was sh1t 5 years ago, the bloke couldn't save a Word document.
We'll finish above them this season but I wouldn't resent them going up. Nothing against them as a club other than the sh1thouses who threw coins at our players. |
"I don't think we would be either to be fair" - 62 years of avoiding the 3rd tier prior to this fall from grace makes me agree with you!
As a football fan under 30, I confess to never having regarded Wednesday as a "big club", from the perspective that this adjective isn't applied to as many as 20 teams in the country. Historic and proper, medium sized with a big ground. I think their average attendance as a club is around 21k, they've not been a force in my lifetime (possibly not in any current Wednesday fan's lifetime glancing at the history books!) and it's evidently (somehow) attendances on which a portion of their fans have put themselves near the summit of the English football pyramid. Their home crowds are lower than ours in a season where they've spent more time at the top and remain there today, while we see smaller visiting crowds and the limitation of hitting capacity several times.
Really I view the two of us in the same band as a good number of medium sized clubs, who are all capable of not looking out of place in the PL, who are all capable of looking out of place in L1, and who have all done significant time in the 2nd division. Big clubs for me are those that attract freakish attendances even in the EFL. The only one in the 72 presently to do this is Sunderland.
Now I've read some stuff from their pointing to delusions of grandeur, but I can't remember anyone in our relegation season saying we deserved to stay in the Championship. Awfully run, poorly invested in, a total basket case. Indeed I can't remember people under Lambert or Cook saying we deserved to be in a different league; most thought outside L1's top 6 in those seasons was a fair return for performances on the pitch. This is likely the first time since 2014/15 when rival fans have bothered to visit our forum with any frequency, and even in that 'successful' season past we were hardly crowing about the football were we! 😂
They're now reading our 'jumped-up' comments and presuming arrogance, when it would be bizarre for us to not speak of the unparalleled investment in this season's squad, the performance gap between us and the rest of the division (in match statistics over the course of the season), the level of professionalism that has recently arrived at Portman Road, the difference between the contender we were before and are today... This finale is too hard to call, but give the same cards we've been dealt to any club in the division and you would expect all the same conversations to play out. Any perceived 'entitlement' this year has nothing to do with what we've won in the past or how many fans we have attending games.
With all the above said, however, it feels very normal that none of this season's rivals are professing soft spots for us. We've paid little attention to each other over the course of our histories and I don't anticipate us being so closely entwined again in seasons to come, even if we are all doing well in the Championship next year. |  | | |
| Owlstalk delusions on 00:02 - Apr 13 with 572 views | Cafe_Newman |
| Owlstalk delusions on 23:17 - Apr 12 by Vegtablue |
"I don't think we would be either to be fair" - 62 years of avoiding the 3rd tier prior to this fall from grace makes me agree with you!
As a football fan under 30, I confess to never having regarded Wednesday as a "big club", from the perspective that this adjective isn't applied to as many as 20 teams in the country. Historic and proper, medium sized with a big ground. I think their average attendance as a club is around 21k, they've not been a force in my lifetime (possibly not in any current Wednesday fan's lifetime glancing at the history books!) and it's evidently (somehow) attendances on which a portion of their fans have put themselves near the summit of the English football pyramid. Their home crowds are lower than ours in a season where they've spent more time at the top and remain there today, while we see smaller visiting crowds and the limitation of hitting capacity several times.
Really I view the two of us in the same band as a good number of medium sized clubs, who are all capable of not looking out of place in the PL, who are all capable of looking out of place in L1, and who have all done significant time in the 2nd division. Big clubs for me are those that attract freakish attendances even in the EFL. The only one in the 72 presently to do this is Sunderland.
Now I've read some stuff from their pointing to delusions of grandeur, but I can't remember anyone in our relegation season saying we deserved to stay in the Championship. Awfully run, poorly invested in, a total basket case. Indeed I can't remember people under Lambert or Cook saying we deserved to be in a different league; most thought outside L1's top 6 in those seasons was a fair return for performances on the pitch. This is likely the first time since 2014/15 when rival fans have bothered to visit our forum with any frequency, and even in that 'successful' season past we were hardly crowing about the football were we! 😂
They're now reading our 'jumped-up' comments and presuming arrogance, when it would be bizarre for us to not speak of the unparalleled investment in this season's squad, the performance gap between us and the rest of the division (in match statistics over the course of the season), the level of professionalism that has recently arrived at Portman Road, the difference between the contender we were before and are today... This finale is too hard to call, but give the same cards we've been dealt to any club in the division and you would expect all the same conversations to play out. Any perceived 'entitlement' this year has nothing to do with what we've won in the past or how many fans we have attending games.
With all the above said, however, it feels very normal that none of this season's rivals are professing soft spots for us. We've paid little attention to each other over the course of our histories and I don't anticipate us being so closely entwined again in seasons to come, even if we are all doing well in the Championship next year. |
Nicely put. Thanks. |  | | |
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