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Ref swapped for Saturday.. 23:50 - Apr 13 with 3464 viewsWallingford_Boy

Phew

RIP Sir Bobby

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Ref swapped for Saturday.. on 00:21 - Apr 14 with 2993 viewsTalkingBlues

Where is that reported?

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Ref swapped for Saturday.. on 04:20 - Apr 14 with 2846 viewsLegendofthePhoenix

The EFL site still has bell as our ref:
https://www.efl.com/news/2023/april/referee-appointments-14-19-april/
Not sure where you got this from - is it def info by any chance?

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Ref swapped for Saturday.. on 08:37 - Apr 14 with 2320 viewsWallingford_Boy

Ref swapped for Saturday.. on 00:21 - Apr 14 by TalkingBlues

Where is that reported?


Cruncher

RIP Sir Bobby

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Ref swapped for Saturday.. on 08:44 - Apr 14 with 2252 viewsTalkingBlues

Ref swapped for Saturday.. on 08:37 - Apr 14 by Wallingford_Boy

Cruncher


Oh Wally

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Ref swapped for Saturday.. on 08:53 - Apr 14 with 2204 viewsEastTownBlue

Ref swapped for Saturday.. on 08:37 - Apr 14 by Wallingford_Boy

Cruncher


Which he may well have got from a Charlton or a refereeing board. It seems that we now have Sam Barrott and Stevenge have James Bell. Barrott has already awarded two penalties against us this season.
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Ref swapped for Saturday.. on 09:01 - Apr 14 with 2134 viewsclive_baker

Surprised to see they’ve replaced him with a Plymouth supporter, feels odd.

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Ref swapped for Saturday.. on 09:06 - Apr 14 with 2115 viewsWallingford_Boy

Ref swapped for Saturday.. on 08:44 - Apr 14 by TalkingBlues

Oh Wally


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RIP Sir Bobby

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Ref swapped for Saturday.. on 09:10 - Apr 14 with 2075 viewsTalkingBlues

Ref swapped for Saturday.. on 09:06 - Apr 14 by Wallingford_Boy

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.................you absolute legend you

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Ref swapped for Saturday.. on 09:22 - Apr 14 with 2008 viewsGeoffSentence

Ref swapped for Saturday.. on 08:53 - Apr 14 by EastTownBlue

Which he may well have got from a Charlton or a refereeing board. It seems that we now have Sam Barrott and Stevenge have James Bell. Barrott has already awarded two penalties against us this season.


17 League One games
52 Yellow Cards
5 Penalties
2 Against us (vs Bolton - Leif on his debut, and vs Cambridge - Walton saved it)

Both games he has reffed us in this season have ended 1-1

Edit: TWTD has rated him 5.7 and 5.6 on those two occasions, mediocre but not terrible especially since he awarded a penalty against us in each game.
[Post edited 14 Apr 2023 9:29]

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Joking aside…. on 09:25 - Apr 14 with 1969 viewsBloots

Ref swapped for Saturday.. on 09:01 - Apr 14 by clive_baker

Surprised to see they’ve replaced him with a Plymouth supporter, feels odd.


….isn’t this new bloke actually from Sheffield?

Funny.

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Joking aside…. on 09:28 - Apr 14 with 1951 viewsGeoffSentence

Joking aside…. on 09:25 - Apr 14 by Bloots

….isn’t this new bloke actually from Sheffield?

Funny.


Hopefully a United supporter.

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Ref swapped for Saturday.. on 09:50 - Apr 14 with 1842 viewsPinewoodblue

While it was probably right for Town to express concerns feel sorry for the referee who shouldn’t have been put in such an awkward position by EFL.

Referees do their best to be impartial. If anything he would be more likely to over compensate rather than show bias against Town.

Don’t remember any complaints from Taunton when a referee from Bury St Edmunds was in charge of their FA Vase game against Diss Town back in 90’s.

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Ref swapped for Saturday.. on 09:59 - Apr 14 with 1783 viewsRozz

Ref swapped for Saturday.. on 09:50 - Apr 14 by Pinewoodblue

While it was probably right for Town to express concerns feel sorry for the referee who shouldn’t have been put in such an awkward position by EFL.

Referees do their best to be impartial. If anything he would be more likely to over compensate rather than show bias against Town.

Don’t remember any complaints from Taunton when a referee from Bury St Edmunds was in charge of their FA Vase game against Diss Town back in 90’s.


I think the EFL's bar for conflict of interest is probably very low (ie not your own team or direct rival) and this has only come about because his prior connection to Wednesday was made public. That's at least partially due to the ref himself.

Without that information in the public realm I would suggest a lot of games probably would (and do) go ahead with similar situations. It would be very difficult for Joe public to distinguish bias from bad performance.
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Ref swapped for Saturday.. on 10:22 - Apr 14 with 1722 viewsPinewoodblue

Ref swapped for Saturday.. on 09:59 - Apr 14 by Rozz

I think the EFL's bar for conflict of interest is probably very low (ie not your own team or direct rival) and this has only come about because his prior connection to Wednesday was made public. That's at least partially due to the ref himself.

Without that information in the public realm I would suggest a lot of games probably would (and do) go ahead with similar situations. It would be very difficult for Joe public to distinguish bias from bad performance.


Think it is fair to say most of the decisions that have gone against us have been due to poor decision making rather than bias.

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Ref swapped for Saturday.. on 10:41 - Apr 14 with 1652 viewsSharkey

Ref swapped for Saturday.. on 10:22 - Apr 14 by Pinewoodblue

Think it is fair to say most of the decisions that have gone against us have been due to poor decision making rather than bias.


Only 'most'?
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Ref swapped for Saturday.. on 10:47 - Apr 14 with 1628 viewsRozz

Ref swapped for Saturday.. on 10:22 - Apr 14 by Pinewoodblue

Think it is fair to say most of the decisions that have gone against us have been due to poor decision making rather than bias.


I don't necessarily disagree, but my point is that you have no idea what allegiances the ref may or may not have from game to game, because it's generally not public.

Without that information being leaked and the subsequent pressure that brings to the game scenario, the EFL clearly saw no issue with the appointment.
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Ref swapped for Saturday.. on 10:54 - Apr 14 with 1583 viewsRyorry

Ref swapped for Saturday.. on 09:50 - Apr 14 by Pinewoodblue

While it was probably right for Town to express concerns feel sorry for the referee who shouldn’t have been put in such an awkward position by EFL.

Referees do their best to be impartial. If anything he would be more likely to over compensate rather than show bias against Town.

Don’t remember any complaints from Taunton when a referee from Bury St Edmunds was in charge of their FA Vase game against Diss Town back in 90’s.


Not the same in a cup competition though, league always far more important.

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Ref swapped for Saturday.. on 12:15 - Apr 14 with 1454 viewsquirkie

Other fans having a proper meltdown about this on social media, much hilarity,

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Ref swapped for Saturday.. on 12:31 - Apr 14 with 1412 viewstractorboy1978

Ref swapped for Saturday.. on 12:15 - Apr 14 by quirkie

Other fans having a proper meltdown about this on social media, much hilarity,


It's just so obvious to me. I am amazed to see even Town fans saying it wasn't necessary. The idea that a bloke that used to stand on the Sheff Wed Kop is not going to have any level of bias (conscious or unconscious) is complete bobbins.
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Ref swapped for Saturday.. on 12:35 - Apr 14 with 1403 viewsLawfordLad

I think the best part of all of this is the collective meltdown on Owls Talk! Talk about living rent free in their heads.
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Ref swapped for Saturday.. on 12:44 - Apr 14 with 1352 viewsitfcjoe

Ref swapped for Saturday.. on 12:31 - Apr 14 by tractorboy1978

It's just so obvious to me. I am amazed to see even Town fans saying it wasn't necessary. The idea that a bloke that used to stand on the Sheff Wed Kop is not going to have any level of bias (conscious or unconscious) is complete bobbins.


In every other industry there is real work being done on dealing with unconscious bias, just incredibly obvious that once this was in public domain and club/fanbase aware it was wholly unfair on the guy to be in charge

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Ref swapped for Saturday.. on 12:57 - Apr 14 with 1305 viewsRyorry

Ref swapped for Saturday.. on 12:35 - Apr 14 by LawfordLad

I think the best part of all of this is the collective meltdown on Owls Talk! Talk about living rent free in their heads.


They can't even get basic facts right.

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Ref swapped for Saturday.. on 13:01 - Apr 14 with 1279 viewsHerbivore

Ref swapped for Saturday.. on 12:35 - Apr 14 by LawfordLad

I think the best part of all of this is the collective meltdown on Owls Talk! Talk about living rent free in their heads.


It's really bizarre. If their game this weekend was being refereed by someone who had very publicly spoken about their depth of support for Ipswich then they'd be absolutely wetting themselves over it and demanding a different ref. Despite effectively being gifted 2 points against us from officials who couldn't or didn't want to see certain incidents, they still bleat on as though they were hard done by. Absolute fannies.

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Ref swapped for Saturday.. on 13:07 - Apr 14 with 1250 viewsclive_baker

Ref swapped for Saturday.. on 09:50 - Apr 14 by Pinewoodblue

While it was probably right for Town to express concerns feel sorry for the referee who shouldn’t have been put in such an awkward position by EFL.

Referees do their best to be impartial. If anything he would be more likely to over compensate rather than show bias against Town.

Don’t remember any complaints from Taunton when a referee from Bury St Edmunds was in charge of their FA Vase game against Diss Town back in 90’s.


100% the buck stops with the EFL, a completely avoidable situation that they failed to avoid.

You just know after all this we're going to get an absolute stinker of a decision against us and all those Wendies fans crowing about it will be enjoying that come 5pm tomorrow.

Hopefully not though, big game innit. 3 points is an absolute must. I'm going as far as saying this game will determine the outcome of the season, which might sound OTT but I think IF we win tomorrow then we'll get top 2. I'm confident we would follow it up on Tuesday which should put us in a great spot for the final 4. Anything less than 3 points tomorrow and we'll be up against it IMO.

Hooge game.

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Ref swapped for Saturday.. on 13:52 - Apr 14 with 369 viewsVegtablue

Think your tongue may be planted in your cheek there Wally but what an awkward position to have placed Mr Bell in the first place! He divulged his support, and the extent of it, when in uniform and without prompt. Silly to then send him out to any of us four with this number of games to go. Enough teams in the EFL to keep the man busy over the weekend! FWIW I agree with others that he may have found himself subconsciously overcompensating.

Our replacement hails from the area and may be a Wendy too, as pointed out by others and which would be a classic 'last laugh' move by the EFL, but whatever the answer he hasn't brought his allegiances into work - it's not asking much for a ref who keeps his loyalties at home lol.

A judge or chairperson would have recused themselves in similar circumstances.
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