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For afficienados of fantasy films. (not THAT sort of fantasy ) 09:37 - May 13 with 3372 viewsGeoffSentence

Why is it that dwarves are always scotttish?

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For afficienados of fantasy films. (not THAT sort of fantasy ) on 09:47 - May 13 with 2118 viewswkj

Dwarves are usually portrayed as rugged mountain dwellers with a love of earth resources. Given the mountainous nature of Scotland and the rugged reputation paired with the fact that "Civilized" North America is so young, it is my assumption that Scotland fits the bill better than anywhere else.
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For afficienados of fantasy films. (not THAT sort of fantasy ) on 09:50 - May 13 with 2103 viewsGeoffSentence

For afficienados of fantasy films. (not THAT sort of fantasy ) on 09:47 - May 13 by wkj

Dwarves are usually portrayed as rugged mountain dwellers with a love of earth resources. Given the mountainous nature of Scotland and the rugged reputation paired with the fact that "Civilized" North America is so young, it is my assumption that Scotland fits the bill better than anywhere else.
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Austria fits that bill better, if that were it they should be portrayed as stereotypical Austrians.

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For afficienados of fantasy films. (not THAT sort of fantasy ) on 09:50 - May 13 by GeoffSentence

Austria fits that bill better, if that were it they should be portrayed as stereotypical Austrians.


True, but Austria is closer to the Swiss, so they don't like to get involved by proxy

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For afficienados of fantasy films. (not THAT sort of fantasy ) on 09:56 - May 13 with 2090 viewshoppy

The two aren’t mutually exclusive… there may be some aficionados of THAT sort of fantasy including dwarves.

Not for me, though.

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For afficienados of fantasy films. (not THAT sort of fantasy ) on 10:00 - May 13 with 2078 viewsGeoffSentence

For afficienados of fantasy films. (not THAT sort of fantasy ) on 09:56 - May 13 by hoppy

The two aren’t mutually exclusive… there may be some aficionados of THAT sort of fantasy including dwarves.

Not for me, though.


Are they scottish in THAT sort of fantasy too?

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For afficienados of fantasy films. (not THAT sort of fantasy ) on 10:05 - May 13 with 2068 viewsKeno

whats that you saying now, the little people are all Scottish


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For afficienados of fantasy films. (not THAT sort of fantasy ) on 10:10 - May 13 with 2046 viewshoppy

For afficienados of fantasy films. (not THAT sort of fantasy ) on 10:00 - May 13 by GeoffSentence

Are they scottish in THAT sort of fantasy too?


No idea… oh look, keno’s joined in now, so perhaps ask him..

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For afficienados of fantasy films. (not THAT sort of fantasy ) on 10:14 - May 13 with 2026 viewsKeno

For afficienados of fantasy films. (not THAT sort of fantasy ) on 10:10 - May 13 by hoppy

No idea… oh look, keno’s joined in now, so perhaps ask him..


dont ask me, the closest I get to fantasy films was Beauty and the Beast

Its wasnt what I was expected tho cos I misread the title and thought they was a 'r' in the second name

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For afficienados of fantasy films. (not THAT sort of fantasy ) on 17:17 - May 13 with 1917 viewsfactual_blue

Insufficient daylight = stunted growth perhaps?

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For afficienados of fantasy films. (not THAT sort of fantasy ) on 17:23 - May 13 with 1909 viewsGlasgowBlue

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For afficienados of fantasy films. (not THAT sort of fantasy ) on 17:25 - May 13 with 1904 viewsSwansea_Blue

For afficienados of fantasy films. (not THAT sort of fantasy ) on 09:56 - May 13 by hoppy

The two aren’t mutually exclusive… there may be some aficionados of THAT sort of fantasy including dwarves.

Not for me, though.


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For afficienados of fantasy films. (not THAT sort of fantasy ) on 23:01 - May 13 with 1854 viewsNewcyBlue

For afficienados of fantasy films. (not THAT sort of fantasy ) on 09:56 - May 13 by hoppy

The two aren’t mutually exclusive… there may be some aficionados of THAT sort of fantasy including dwarves.

Not for me, though.


Ex wife was 4’11”. One inch taller than the criteria for being a dwarf. Whenever she used to say to me “I’m not happy” I used to ask her “which one are you then?” She didn’t find it as amusing as I did.

Anyway, I now call her divorced Barbie. She comes with all of Ken’s accessories…

Edit. I realise that last joke only works if people know my name is Ken. Ex wife really is 4’11”. Good things come in small packages. I was a good thing..
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For afficienados of fantasy films. (not THAT sort of fantasy ) on 23:07 - May 13 with 1844 viewsSwansea_Blue

For afficienados of fantasy films. (not THAT sort of fantasy ) on 23:01 - May 13 by NewcyBlue

Ex wife was 4’11”. One inch taller than the criteria for being a dwarf. Whenever she used to say to me “I’m not happy” I used to ask her “which one are you then?” She didn’t find it as amusing as I did.

Anyway, I now call her divorced Barbie. She comes with all of Ken’s accessories…

Edit. I realise that last joke only works if people know my name is Ken. Ex wife really is 4’11”. Good things come in small packages. I was a good thing..
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you’re a bad man

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For afficienados of fantasy films. (not THAT sort of fantasy ) on 00:06 - May 14 with 1825 viewsWeWereZombies

Time Bandits

David Rappaport (Randall) born London 3' 11"
Kenny Baker (Fidgit) born Birmingham 3' 8"
Malcolm Dixon (Strutter) born Crook, County Durham 4' 1"
Mike Edmonds (Og) born Chelmsford 4' 4"
Jack Purvis (Wally) born London 4' 2"

So, not always Scottish then...

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For afficienados of fantasy films. (not THAT sort of fantasy ) on 00:31 - May 14 with 1816 viewsstonojnr

youve never watched Time Bandits then ?
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For afficienados of fantasy films. (not THAT sort of fantasy ) on 00:06 - May 14 by WeWereZombies

Time Bandits

David Rappaport (Randall) born London 3' 11"
Kenny Baker (Fidgit) born Birmingham 3' 8"
Malcolm Dixon (Strutter) born Crook, County Durham 4' 1"
Mike Edmonds (Og) born Chelmsford 4' 4"
Jack Purvis (Wally) born London 4' 2"

So, not always Scottish then...


I think it was only in the LOTR films that it happened, because yes Peter Jackson wanted the dwarves, well Gimli at least, to sound like he'd come from this mountainous region from the UK because thats ultimately the language of Tolkien as opposed to Austria or Switzerland, and so he went ah Aberdeen granite city, dwarves chiselled stuff out of hard stone, they must sound scottish then and once it was set it had to be carried through the Hobbit too, though does Thorin sound Scottish ?

but its not been a trope of fantasy films at all. Willow would be another good example of non scottish dwarves in a fantasy film
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For afficienados of fantasy films. (not THAT sort of fantasy ) on 09:20 - May 14 with 1732 viewsWeWereZombies

For afficienados of fantasy films. (not THAT sort of fantasy ) on 00:40 - May 14 by stonojnr

I think it was only in the LOTR films that it happened, because yes Peter Jackson wanted the dwarves, well Gimli at least, to sound like he'd come from this mountainous region from the UK because thats ultimately the language of Tolkien as opposed to Austria or Switzerland, and so he went ah Aberdeen granite city, dwarves chiselled stuff out of hard stone, they must sound scottish then and once it was set it had to be carried through the Hobbit too, though does Thorin sound Scottish ?

but its not been a trope of fantasy films at all. Willow would be another good example of non scottish dwarves in a fantasy film


Excellent stuff, although I would suggest that Tolkien's language, with its roots in Middle English, Germanic and Scandinavian tongues (not THAT sort of cunning linguistics) that cave dwelling, hammer and tongs wielding, iron age stunted by a lack of light Vikings is the type of apparent Scottish vibe in 'Lord In The Rings'. It's the Shetlander, Orcadian and Picts side of Scotland rather than the Briton and Gael side.

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For afficienados of fantasy films. (not THAT sort of fantasy ) on 09:33 - May 14 with 1708 viewsKeno

For afficienados of fantasy films. (not THAT sort of fantasy ) on 09:20 - May 14 by WeWereZombies

Excellent stuff, although I would suggest that Tolkien's language, with its roots in Middle English, Germanic and Scandinavian tongues (not THAT sort of cunning linguistics) that cave dwelling, hammer and tongs wielding, iron age stunted by a lack of light Vikings is the type of apparent Scottish vibe in 'Lord In The Rings'. It's the Shetlander, Orcadian and Picts side of Scotland rather than the Briton and Gael side.


I thought I read somewhere Tolkien got the inspiration a sub human backward race after trip to Diss

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For afficienados of fantasy films. (not THAT sort of fantasy ) on 09:37 - May 14 with 1705 viewsWeWereZombies

For afficienados of fantasy films. (not THAT sort of fantasy ) on 09:33 - May 14 by Keno

I thought I read somewhere Tolkien got the inspiration a sub human backward race after trip to Diss


Seriously, where to begin ? Well, 'Time Bandits' - where the dwarves were the canny ones who came in to sort out the mess that the comedians made. Ah, I can see the Scottish connection after all...

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For afficienados of fantasy films. (not THAT sort of fantasy ) on 09:40 - May 14 with 1698 viewsElephantintheRoom

Tyrion Lannister wasn’t

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For afficienados of fantasy films. (not THAT sort of fantasy ) on 14:35 - May 14 with 1642 viewsBlueandTruesince82

What are Umpa Loompas? Welsh or something?

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For afficienados of fantasy films. (not THAT sort of fantasy ) on 14:38 - May 14 with 1631 viewsGeoffSentence

For afficienados of fantasy films. (not THAT sort of fantasy ) on 00:40 - May 14 by stonojnr

I think it was only in the LOTR films that it happened, because yes Peter Jackson wanted the dwarves, well Gimli at least, to sound like he'd come from this mountainous region from the UK because thats ultimately the language of Tolkien as opposed to Austria or Switzerland, and so he went ah Aberdeen granite city, dwarves chiselled stuff out of hard stone, they must sound scottish then and once it was set it had to be carried through the Hobbit too, though does Thorin sound Scottish ?

but its not been a trope of fantasy films at all. Willow would be another good example of non scottish dwarves in a fantasy film


Oh man, I am getting slaughtered for this. Maybe I exagerrated a little with 'always'.

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For afficienados of fantasy films. (not THAT sort of fantasy ) on 14:35 - May 14 by BlueandTruesince82

What are Umpa Loompas? Welsh or something?


Cornish?
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For afficienados of fantasy films. (not THAT sort of fantasy ) on 16:20 - May 14 with 1585 viewsKeno

For afficienados of fantasy films. (not THAT sort of fantasy ) on 14:38 - May 14 by GeoffSentence

Oh man, I am getting slaughtered for this. Maybe I exagerrated a little with 'always'.


Serves you right for a troll post

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For afficienados of fantasy films. (not THAT sort of fantasy ) on 16:20 - May 14 by Keno

Serves you right for a troll post


I think Trolls and Dwaves are entirely different

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