| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players 22:57 - May 18 with 16020 views | The_Romford_Blue |
Pisses me off even more that the whinging on here and twitter from our fans stopped most of us going on and having our moment.
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| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 12:37 - May 20 with 1367 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 17:08 - May 19 by Hipsterectomy |
The club told fans before the match they would be taking any pitch invasion extremely seriously including bans cause it’s an offence. The club also wanted the players to be out there with their kids, partners, parents, extended family etc. Fozzy said it wasn’t going to happen if people went on the pitch and they wouldn’t come out again. I assume most boos were for that reason as people wanted the players out celebrating.
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And many in the media and medical profession told me I would be dead if I went to a packed bar or sporting event in early 2021, or moved to the south during the pandemic. Yet here I am.
You’re one of the biggest culprits on here. Weren’t you calling for people to be banned if they went on the pitch a few days before the game? What a joke! Of course the club will put out the EFL line, what are you expecting them to say. Please join us in the center circle after the game?
ITFC literally put out footage, Inc faces of fans holding our captain aloft in a celebratory tweet. I must have missed the “do you know who these people are caption”
This thread is an absolute car crash! I wonder if TWTD is a microcosm of what our fanbase is actually like these days! |  | | |
| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 12:43 - May 20 with 1349 views | DJR |
| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 12:18 - May 20 by The_Flashing_Smile |
So the only upset is people had to wait a few minutes longer? Well I for one was loving it and didn't want the day to end. You say the people getting on the pitch are selfish, but the people wanting them not to go on the pitch so they can get to the presentations quicker, aren't they also being selfish? Like, they are just thinking of themselves, aren't they?
So everybody's thinking of what's best for themselves. The difference is one group were having a joyous time, the other group were getting het up and booing their own fans on a glorious occasion. I know who I think's weirder. |
I had a train at 5.45 to catch, having deliberately got a later train to watch the players on the pitch after the game, which had been a magical experience at Barnsley
Had there been a full pitch invasion, I imagine there would have been much more of a delay, and I would have seen much less of the players' celebrations, which would have been a shame.
So to me, it all worked out well, with those keen to get on the pitch able to do so, but the warnings ensuring that I got to see a fair bit of the players' celebrations, and join in the singing which had ground to a halt when the fans were on the pitch. [Post edited 20 May 2023 12:45]
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| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 12:44 - May 20 with 1325 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 12:35 - May 20 by SlippinJimmyJuan |
I meant blinkered in the sense of ignoring the risk of a nutcase taking to the pitch verus the enjoyment of a small few. That said, I think it was a poor choice of words given some of the rest of whag you say in this post, so I do apologise for that.
Don't be so down on yourself, of course I need you! I get your point though, I was more coming from the stance that we can all agree that most fans taking to the pitch are probably not a danger to anyone but themselves, particularly in the circumstances of the Exeter game.
On the third point, I think the assertion that it is a proper celebration for proper fans suggests that it is somehow more passionate in your opinion, but perhaps that isn't the case.
I agree about the idea that anything is a health and safety risk if you dwell on it enough, but a pitch invasion is a completely avoidable exercise. There's a lot of people like yourself who have been in them before and enjoyed them immensely, but that doesn't mean they should continue. For me it is a recipe for disaster that at some point in the next few seasons is going to lead to something very bad happening somewhere in the football league that will have ramifications for all of us. You see the goading of away fans the last two nights, the rampant drug use inside stadiums, rising knife crime, the need for people to top what went before - I think it's inevitable it will get ugly at some point.
It's tricky. I've spent a lot of time in mosh pits at gigs and that's far more brutal than any scenes you are likely to see at Portman Road. At the same time, it's an expected part of the day that is pretty confined to a dedicated area where everyone involved understands the risks. Once you start brining in third parties like players and staff, potentially against their will then I just don't think you can justify it. |
I wouldn't have thought the risk today is any greater than it would've been in the past. There were some right horrible elements in football in the 70s! We also have far more and better quality CCTV now, more sophisticated police cameras, all seater stadia (so easier to pinpoint people), etc, etc.
"I think the assertion that it is a proper celebration for proper fans suggests that it is somehow more passionate in your opinion, but perhaps that isn't the case."
No. Otherwise I'd be calling myself less passionate (given I didn't go on the pitch)! |  |
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| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 12:56 - May 20 with 1287 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 12:43 - May 20 by DJR |
I had a train at 5.45 to catch, having deliberately got a later train to watch the players on the pitch after the game, which had been a magical experience at Barnsley
Had there been a full pitch invasion, I imagine there would have been much more of a delay, and I would have seen much less of the players' celebrations, which would have been a shame.
So to me, it all worked out well, with those keen to get on the pitch able to do so, but the warnings ensuring that I got to see a fair bit of the players' celebrations, and join in the singing which had ground to a halt when the fans were on the pitch. [Post edited 20 May 2023 12:45]
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Certainly would have been a shame, but you're not suggesting everyone's ideas of celebration should fall in line with what train you decided to book? | |
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| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 13:27 - May 20 with 1277 views | Ryorry |
| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 12:21 - May 20 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Lots of us said on here way before the day that the lap of honour etc. would still take place. And it did. So not really sure what your point is. We were right, and there wasn't anything to get upset about. |
It wasn't my point, I was simply answering your question by copying & pasting Hipsterectomy's post (that did provide an answer to your q) which you appeared to have either missed or forgotten. |  |
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| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 13:37 - May 20 with 1260 views | SlippinJimmyJuan |
| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 12:44 - May 20 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I wouldn't have thought the risk today is any greater than it would've been in the past. There were some right horrible elements in football in the 70s! We also have far more and better quality CCTV now, more sophisticated police cameras, all seater stadia (so easier to pinpoint people), etc, etc.
"I think the assertion that it is a proper celebration for proper fans suggests that it is somehow more passionate in your opinion, but perhaps that isn't the case."
No. Otherwise I'd be calling myself less passionate (given I didn't go on the pitch)! |
I don't know - obviously football violence reached a particularly low point in the past, and then fans were punished in a bid to wipe it out. It's hard to say that it isn't on the rise again now. We live in one of the most surveiled countries in the world, and yet kids are still out on the street slashing each other to pieces - I don't know how much of a deterrent that is.
I hope I'm wrong but I think it is inevitable that we will see ugly scenes returning very soon. I think I was patted down twice all season, and one of those was at MK. Based on how easy it is to get pyros into the ground, it can't be that hard to get a knife in either.
To me it just makes much more sense to go off your rocker in the stands - jump up and down, kiss a baldy on the noggin, enthusiasticly thrust your hips in the direction of the away fans. Just can't see anything to be gained from going on the pitch. |  |
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| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 18:02 - May 20 with 1167 views | DJR |
| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 12:56 - May 20 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Certainly would have been a shame, but you're not suggesting everyone's ideas of celebration should fall in line with what train you decided to book? |
I think all I am suggesting is that some consideration should be given to those of us who travel some distance to the game, and who weren't able to celebrate in the evening or get to the event in Christchurch Park.
Of course, had I known the celebrations on the pitch would carry on so long, I would have bought a more expensive flexible ticket, but not everyone can afford that luxury.
Anyway, it wasn't just me because there were many hundreds getting on trains in either direction when I caught my train on the way back to Kent. [Post edited 20 May 2023 18:05]
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| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 18:45 - May 20 with 1099 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 18:02 - May 20 by DJR |
I think all I am suggesting is that some consideration should be given to those of us who travel some distance to the game, and who weren't able to celebrate in the evening or get to the event in Christchurch Park.
Of course, had I known the celebrations on the pitch would carry on so long, I would have bought a more expensive flexible ticket, but not everyone can afford that luxury.
Anyway, it wasn't just me because there were many hundreds getting on trains in either direction when I caught my train on the way back to Kent. [Post edited 20 May 2023 18:05]
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I'm afraid to break it to you but none of those running on the pitch were thinking they were ruining things for those with early trains booked. And nor should they IMO (I say that as someone who has to travel some distance myself).
After 20 years of nothing you have to let people celebrate.
And as harsh as it may sound, your train woes doesn't really come into it.
By the way, how much difference is a specific train to a cheap day return? I always get the latter (I have an irrational fear of missing a specific train). From London, with a railcard, it costs me around £30. | |
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| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 19:07 - May 20 with 1083 views | wkj |
Such a load of crap and blubbing. Some of us are just saving ourselves for promotion to the Premier league. Playing the tantric game BABY! [Post edited 20 May 2023 19:08]
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| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 19:36 - May 20 with 1040 views | Swansea_Blue |
AZ Alkmaar ‘fans’ have shown this week that there are still threats at football matches that need to be tackled, but good natured pitch invasions aren’t one of them. We’ve had more issues from the stands lately than from pitch invasions, so some perspective is needed. Although the argument around safety has some merits, so it’s not a clear cut issue.
We’re in a bit of a mess about this really. It’s interesting that all the clubs who’ve had pitch invasions during this end of season have used the pictures in their socials/news feeds. That’s because this IS football. It epitomises the link with the fans that they work so hard to promote with their PR. This is what they want as it’s what football is founded on, but simultaneously don’t want due to EFL regs/H&S. Schrödinger's pitch invasions innit; simultaneously good and bad. |  |
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| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 21:40 - May 20 with 983 views | DJR |
| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 18:45 - May 20 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I'm afraid to break it to you but none of those running on the pitch were thinking they were ruining things for those with early trains booked. And nor should they IMO (I say that as someone who has to travel some distance myself).
After 20 years of nothing you have to let people celebrate.
And as harsh as it may sound, your train woes doesn't really come into it.
By the way, how much difference is a specific train to a cheap day return? I always get the latter (I have an irrational fear of missing a specific train). From London, with a railcard, it costs me around £30. |
I have generally shared your irrational fear over the years, but have come to realise recently that there's not really much risk.
As regards cost, an advance ticket for me works out at about £23, whereas an ordinary return, split at Manningtree, costs about £36.
Maybe not a great difference in the scheme of things but having forked out to go by train to Peterborough and Barnsley (including accommodation in the latter), I decided to rein it in for the Exeter game. [Post edited 20 May 2023 21:48]
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| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 22:31 - May 20 with 945 views | Plums |
| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 11:45 - May 20 by Plums |
I think people were upset because what was happening was their celebrations with the players were being delayed by those on the pitch. Only a small % of the crowd could get on the pitch and an even smaller percentage did. The rest had to wait for the pitch to be cleared so the guys with the EFL signage were able to come out and put them up and the club could commence the formal celebrations. Throughout that time, everybody else was in limbo.
When they had specifically asked for their wishes to be respected, can you not see how frustrating that might be for those in the stands?
For me, it's not about worrying too much, it's about people being selfish and making the rest of us wait. TBH, the photos of the players in town with the fans later look worth 10x those on the pitch.
Exactly the same will happen at Forest this afternoon:
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...or maybe it won't. The Forest fans stayed in the stands. Looked like a great celebration TBF.
The irony of course is we were laughing at them for invading the pitch when they stayed in the Championship against us a few years ago. |  |
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| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 10:00 - May 21 with 835 views | Pinewoodblue |
| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 22:31 - May 20 by Plums |
...or maybe it won't. The Forest fans stayed in the stands. Looked like a great celebration TBF.
The irony of course is we were laughing at them for invading the pitch when they stayed in the Championship against us a few years ago. |
Forest fans invaded the pitch 12 months ago. Sadly one fan, later charged and given a custodial sentence, took a swing at a Blades player (Billy Sharpe)
The EFL charged Forest over the incident and Forest ended up being fined £50,000, with 50% of it suspended. I suspect yesterdays invasion will lead to the fine having to be paid in full although I doubt they will mind. |  |
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