| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players 22:57 - May 18 with 16078 views | The_Romford_Blue |
Pisses me off even more that the whinging on here and twitter from our fans stopped most of us going on and having our moment.
Only in Ipswich ffs |  |
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| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 23:15 - May 19 with 2504 views | Garv |
| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 09:45 - May 19 by J2BLUE |
What a horrible thing to say to someone who has followed Town around the country in the darkest days we have had for decades.
Have a word with yourself ffs. |
I mean have a word with yourself for taking that quite so seriously.
It was a fair enough comment in response to someone saying 'only in Ipswich ffs'. |  |
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| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 23:26 - May 19 with 2486 views | Melford |
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| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 23:29 - May 19 with 2475 views | bluejacko |
| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 23:26 - May 19 by Melford |
Barnsley tonight |
Good luck identifying anybody through that smoke to ban them from Wembley😄 |  | | |
| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 00:00 - May 20 with 2451 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 23:29 - May 19 by bluejacko |
Good luck identifying anybody through that smoke to ban them from Wembley😄 |
To be fair there was only about 50 fans attending the game, so shouldn’t be hard to identify them. | | | |
| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 02:48 - May 20 with 2376 views | SE1blue |
That thread is hilarious. Love Barnsley fans. |  |
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| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 06:37 - May 20 with 2331 views | Buhrer |
| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 22:09 - May 19 by Mach_foreignBlue |
It could be worse.....He could have been booooing his fellow Barnsley fans for the pitch invasion. |
I've written a letter to the FA, and Mark Ashton has now agreed to host a dinner for those superfan's that were affected by being booed at. Apparently its a fish supper, you've only got to bring all your massive chips. Bitter to drink. Hard cheese and sour grapes for dessert. [Post edited 20 May 2023 6:39]
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| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 07:13 - May 20 with 2299 views | NeedhamChris |
It's interesting that all of the anti-pitch invasion posts stopped within a few hours of the event, but the posts criticising those people have carried on for over a month.
With respect, if some comments on TWTD and Twitter stopped you doing what you wanted to do then your lack of conviction is entirely on you. Whether I agreed or not, a lot of fans did go on to the pitch regardless and Twitter and TWTD didn't stop them - so stop acting like we ruined your day when it was your choice not to have the courage of your convictions. | |
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| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 08:31 - May 20 with 2228 views | noggin |
| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 06:37 - May 20 by Buhrer |
I've written a letter to the FA, and Mark Ashton has now agreed to host a dinner for those superfan's that were affected by being booed at. Apparently its a fish supper, you've only got to bring all your massive chips. Bitter to drink. Hard cheese and sour grapes for dessert. [Post edited 20 May 2023 6:39]
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| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 09:50 - May 20 with 2178 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 20:55 - May 19 by SlippinJimmyJuan |
Weeee I'm a pwoper fan because I wan on the pitch! |
Why do you feel the need to put a speech impediment into your reply?
People don't think they're a proper fan, they just get caught up in the excitement that being a proper supporter gives you. It's called passion. It's not rational thinking. |  |
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| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 09:52 - May 20 with 2163 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 20:51 - May 19 by MattinLondon |
And after the moment, will you accept being banned from PR if the club decided to try and identify everyone on the pitch? Not looking to start an argument just interested in your thoughts on the theoretical possible consequences. |
Well I'd have to accept it, wouldn't I? Doesn't make it right. | |
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| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 09:53 - May 20 with 2173 views | SlippinJimmyJuan |
| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 09:50 - May 20 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Why do you feel the need to put a speech impediment into your reply?
People don't think they're a proper fan, they just get caught up in the excitement that being a proper supporter gives you. It's called passion. It's not rational thinking. |
I was imitating the way a child talks, because I find the argument you make to be pretty childish.
This is your direct quote - "Pitch invasions is proper football for proper football fans." | |
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| Not aimed at the OP on 09:57 - May 20 with 2165 views | Dyland |
This is an absolute car crash of a thread, even by TWTD standards. Good work all!
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| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 10:04 - May 20 with 2146 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 09:53 - May 20 by SlippinJimmyJuan |
I was imitating the way a child talks, because I find the argument you make to be pretty childish.
This is your direct quote - "Pitch invasions is proper football for proper football fans." |
You don't think your response is in itself childish?!
There's nothing childish in what I said. As I've explained, if you're fully invested in supporting your club, passionate about it, then this takes over and is realised in a variety of ways. There are probably lots of things football supporters do that would seem childish out of context.
I wouldn't say people planning to go on the pitch and film themselves for their YouTube channel is the same, BTW. Joe Fairs went on the pitch but didn't do it to film himself for Blue Monday. He presumably didn't think too much about it, just got caught up in the passion and the release of all those years of failure ending. That's a proper football fan. | |
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| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 10:08 - May 20 with 2144 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
Imagine being as angry as the OP is when your team's just made it to a Wembley play off final. Some people have their priorities all wrong. | |
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| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 10:19 - May 20 with 2146 views | SlippinJimmyJuan |
| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 10:04 - May 20 by The_Flashing_Smile |
You don't think your response is in itself childish?!
There's nothing childish in what I said. As I've explained, if you're fully invested in supporting your club, passionate about it, then this takes over and is realised in a variety of ways. There are probably lots of things football supporters do that would seem childish out of context.
I wouldn't say people planning to go on the pitch and film themselves for their YouTube channel is the same, BTW. Joe Fairs went on the pitch but didn't do it to film himself for Blue Monday. He presumably didn't think too much about it, just got caught up in the passion and the release of all those years of failure ending. That's a proper football fan. |
Of course it is! I was just matching your energy on this topic. I say "this topic" because I generally like and often agree with your contributions on here but have found you to be quite blinkered with this over the last few weeks. Likewise, I know this is not the first time I have responded to you specifically on this topic, but I don't have any axe to grind with you aside from a complete disagreement on this.
I think what seems childish to me about it is that it is putting your small moment of satisfaction above the safety of those on the pitch. We saw on Thursday night that one Wednesday fan immediately ran over to slide tackle a lino. Why should anyone have to put up with that when they are just doing their job? It seems incredibly selfish to just accept that.
Now I know what you are thinking, "We'll I would never do something like that and neither would most Town fans" - you are correct. I quite agree. That said it takes one person to ruin it. That was a pretty minor incident in the grand scheme of things, but it is only a matter of time before something truly unpleasant happens which is a slippery slope to all fans at every club being treated differently.
I wholeheartedly agree about those that go on to film themselves. They want nothing but limelight. For normal fans, I can understand the appeal of rushing the pitch if the result is dramatic ie. Wednesday on a Thursday, but not when the game is sewn up at half time ie. Town in 6. Either way I can't condone it because a) there is no need to take the added health and safety risk and b) I don't see how it is more passionate to be on the pitch celebrating with fellow supporters than it is to be celebrating in the stands with fellow supporters. | |
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| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 11:36 - May 20 with 2095 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 10:19 - May 20 by SlippinJimmyJuan |
Of course it is! I was just matching your energy on this topic. I say "this topic" because I generally like and often agree with your contributions on here but have found you to be quite blinkered with this over the last few weeks. Likewise, I know this is not the first time I have responded to you specifically on this topic, but I don't have any axe to grind with you aside from a complete disagreement on this.
I think what seems childish to me about it is that it is putting your small moment of satisfaction above the safety of those on the pitch. We saw on Thursday night that one Wednesday fan immediately ran over to slide tackle a lino. Why should anyone have to put up with that when they are just doing their job? It seems incredibly selfish to just accept that.
Now I know what you are thinking, "We'll I would never do something like that and neither would most Town fans" - you are correct. I quite agree. That said it takes one person to ruin it. That was a pretty minor incident in the grand scheme of things, but it is only a matter of time before something truly unpleasant happens which is a slippery slope to all fans at every club being treated differently.
I wholeheartedly agree about those that go on to film themselves. They want nothing but limelight. For normal fans, I can understand the appeal of rushing the pitch if the result is dramatic ie. Wednesday on a Thursday, but not when the game is sewn up at half time ie. Town in 6. Either way I can't condone it because a) there is no need to take the added health and safety risk and b) I don't see how it is more passionate to be on the pitch celebrating with fellow supporters than it is to be celebrating in the stands with fellow supporters. |
Ok, there's a lot to unpack there.
1. Why am I blinkered? I just have a different opinion to you.
2. I like how in your next two paragraphs you tell me why it's wrong, what I'm thinking about it and then agreeing with me! You don't even need me in this conversation!
3. I haven't said it's more passionate to be on the pitch celebrating. It's just another way it manifests itself.
You make a good rational argument, I can't deny that. And yes, in the cold light of day it certainly is a health and safety risk. But then a lot of things are a health and safety risk at some stage. Leaving your house and crossing the road is a health and safety risk. I just feel like some people worry too much.
But anyway, I'm more talking about the heat of the moment, I can understand it. I did it myself in 2000 and it was great. I'll remember that all my days and have absolutely zero regrets or apologies to give. I didn't in 2023. Either's fine for me. When I see people getting so angry about it and booing their own fans during a time of celebration I just find it really odd. If it's against the rules, let the authorities deal with it. Why does it upset people so much when they're not really affected?
Look at the OP on that Barnsley board thread. His team is going to Wembley but he's absolutely frothing with anger. So weird (to me). | |
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| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 11:40 - May 20 with 2078 views | NeedhamChris |
| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 11:36 - May 20 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Ok, there's a lot to unpack there.
1. Why am I blinkered? I just have a different opinion to you.
2. I like how in your next two paragraphs you tell me why it's wrong, what I'm thinking about it and then agreeing with me! You don't even need me in this conversation!
3. I haven't said it's more passionate to be on the pitch celebrating. It's just another way it manifests itself.
You make a good rational argument, I can't deny that. And yes, in the cold light of day it certainly is a health and safety risk. But then a lot of things are a health and safety risk at some stage. Leaving your house and crossing the road is a health and safety risk. I just feel like some people worry too much.
But anyway, I'm more talking about the heat of the moment, I can understand it. I did it myself in 2000 and it was great. I'll remember that all my days and have absolutely zero regrets or apologies to give. I didn't in 2023. Either's fine for me. When I see people getting so angry about it and booing their own fans during a time of celebration I just find it really odd. If it's against the rules, let the authorities deal with it. Why does it upset people so much when they're not really affected?
Look at the OP on that Barnsley board thread. His team is going to Wembley but he's absolutely frothing with anger. So weird (to me). |
My view on this has changed a bit;
Before the game - was very much against it
When it happened - didn't understand it but glad it was over quickly
About 5 minutes afterwards - they had their moment and no one was hurt so in the end who cares
The club let it happen as much as they could be seen to. It happened, we are all fine and let's just get on with life. The town are going up after all | |
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| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 11:45 - May 20 with 2049 views | Plums |
| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 11:36 - May 20 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Ok, there's a lot to unpack there.
1. Why am I blinkered? I just have a different opinion to you.
2. I like how in your next two paragraphs you tell me why it's wrong, what I'm thinking about it and then agreeing with me! You don't even need me in this conversation!
3. I haven't said it's more passionate to be on the pitch celebrating. It's just another way it manifests itself.
You make a good rational argument, I can't deny that. And yes, in the cold light of day it certainly is a health and safety risk. But then a lot of things are a health and safety risk at some stage. Leaving your house and crossing the road is a health and safety risk. I just feel like some people worry too much.
But anyway, I'm more talking about the heat of the moment, I can understand it. I did it myself in 2000 and it was great. I'll remember that all my days and have absolutely zero regrets or apologies to give. I didn't in 2023. Either's fine for me. When I see people getting so angry about it and booing their own fans during a time of celebration I just find it really odd. If it's against the rules, let the authorities deal with it. Why does it upset people so much when they're not really affected?
Look at the OP on that Barnsley board thread. His team is going to Wembley but he's absolutely frothing with anger. So weird (to me). |
I think people were upset because what was happening was their celebrations with the players were being delayed by those on the pitch. Only a small % of the crowd could get on the pitch and an even smaller percentage did. The rest had to wait for the pitch to be cleared so the guys with the EFL signage were able to come out and put them up and the club could commence the formal celebrations. Throughout that time, everybody else was in limbo.
When they had specifically asked for their wishes to be respected, can you not see how frustrating that might be for those in the stands?
For me, it's not about worrying too much, it's about people being selfish and making the rest of us wait. TBH, the photos of the players in town with the fans later look worth 10x those on the pitch.
Exactly the same will happen at Forest this afternoon:
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| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 11:56 - May 20 with 2026 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 11:40 - May 20 by NeedhamChris |
My view on this has changed a bit;
Before the game - was very much against it
When it happened - didn't understand it but glad it was over quickly
About 5 minutes afterwards - they had their moment and no one was hurt so in the end who cares
The club let it happen as much as they could be seen to. It happened, we are all fine and let's just get on with life. The town are going up after all |
yeah the way the police congregated in the corner of the north rather than spread out all along it said to me they were inviting it. It seemed fairly controlled, nothing malicious whatsoever, and over pretty quick. And everyone still got their lap of honour/awards presentations. So for me it was weird that people got angry and booed it. Why? What are they actually so upset about? I'm genuinely baffled. | |
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| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 12:02 - May 20 with 2024 views | Ryorry |
| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 11:56 - May 20 by The_Flashing_Smile |
yeah the way the police congregated in the corner of the north rather than spread out all along it said to me they were inviting it. It seemed fairly controlled, nothing malicious whatsoever, and over pretty quick. And everyone still got their lap of honour/awards presentations. So for me it was weird that people got angry and booed it. Why? What are they actually so upset about? I'm genuinely baffled. |
See Hipsterectomy's post yesterday at 17.08 (on previous page)
"All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 17:08 - May 19 with 539 views Hipsterectomy
The club told fans before the match they would be taking any pitch invasion extremely seriously including bans cause it’s an offence. The club also wanted the players to be out there with their kids, partners, parents, extended family etc. Fozzy said it wasn’t going to happen if people went on the pitch and they wouldn’t come out again. I assume most boos were for that reason as people wanted the players out celebrating.
Also move on ffs
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| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 12:18 - May 20 with 2005 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 11:45 - May 20 by Plums |
I think people were upset because what was happening was their celebrations with the players were being delayed by those on the pitch. Only a small % of the crowd could get on the pitch and an even smaller percentage did. The rest had to wait for the pitch to be cleared so the guys with the EFL signage were able to come out and put them up and the club could commence the formal celebrations. Throughout that time, everybody else was in limbo.
When they had specifically asked for their wishes to be respected, can you not see how frustrating that might be for those in the stands?
For me, it's not about worrying too much, it's about people being selfish and making the rest of us wait. TBH, the photos of the players in town with the fans later look worth 10x those on the pitch.
Exactly the same will happen at Forest this afternoon:
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So the only upset is people had to wait a few minutes longer? Well I for one was loving it and didn't want the day to end. You say the people getting on the pitch are selfish, but the people wanting them not to go on the pitch so they can get to the presentations quicker, aren't they also being selfish? Like, they are just thinking of themselves, aren't they?
So everybody's thinking of what's best for themselves. The difference is one group were having a joyous time, the other group were getting het up and booing their own fans on a glorious occasion. I know who I think's weirder. | |
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| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 12:21 - May 20 with 1999 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 12:02 - May 20 by Ryorry |
See Hipsterectomy's post yesterday at 17.08 (on previous page)
"All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 17:08 - May 19 with 539 views Hipsterectomy
The club told fans before the match they would be taking any pitch invasion extremely seriously including bans cause it’s an offence. The club also wanted the players to be out there with their kids, partners, parents, extended family etc. Fozzy said it wasn’t going to happen if people went on the pitch and they wouldn’t come out again. I assume most boos were for that reason as people wanted the players out celebrating.
Also move on ffs
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Lots of us said on here way before the day that the lap of honour etc. would still take place. And it did. So not really sure what your point is. We were right, and there wasn't anything to get upset about. | |
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| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 12:28 - May 20 with 1996 views | Vegtablue |
| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 11:56 - May 20 by The_Flashing_Smile |
yeah the way the police congregated in the corner of the north rather than spread out all along it said to me they were inviting it. It seemed fairly controlled, nothing malicious whatsoever, and over pretty quick. And everyone still got their lap of honour/awards presentations. So for me it was weird that people got angry and booed it. Why? What are they actually so upset about? I'm genuinely baffled. |
I do agree with Ryorry's post above that fans were rather pitted against each other on the day, sadly (not too sadly!). Foster made multiple announcements during the game and laid the repercussions on very starkly. Meanwhile the police abandoned the line across the North and congregated in that corner.
In the event an 'invasion' was secretly wanted, I think they could have provided the obligatory warning in a less imploring manner. There's carrying out your duties and then there's going above and beyond, with tannoy team fitting the latter description. I only ever boo the ref in footy stadiums, save the rest of my booing for on the streets, and I didn't clamber on. I occupied the middle ground and won't lie found the whole thing pretty funny at the time. It will be a regrettable day when this thread doesn't receive another post 😂 | | | |
| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 12:35 - May 20 with 1967 views | SlippinJimmyJuan |
| All these clubs having their pitch invasion and celebrating with the players on 11:36 - May 20 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Ok, there's a lot to unpack there.
1. Why am I blinkered? I just have a different opinion to you.
2. I like how in your next two paragraphs you tell me why it's wrong, what I'm thinking about it and then agreeing with me! You don't even need me in this conversation!
3. I haven't said it's more passionate to be on the pitch celebrating. It's just another way it manifests itself.
You make a good rational argument, I can't deny that. And yes, in the cold light of day it certainly is a health and safety risk. But then a lot of things are a health and safety risk at some stage. Leaving your house and crossing the road is a health and safety risk. I just feel like some people worry too much.
But anyway, I'm more talking about the heat of the moment, I can understand it. I did it myself in 2000 and it was great. I'll remember that all my days and have absolutely zero regrets or apologies to give. I didn't in 2023. Either's fine for me. When I see people getting so angry about it and booing their own fans during a time of celebration I just find it really odd. If it's against the rules, let the authorities deal with it. Why does it upset people so much when they're not really affected?
Look at the OP on that Barnsley board thread. His team is going to Wembley but he's absolutely frothing with anger. So weird (to me). |
I meant blinkered in the sense of ignoring the risk of a nutcase taking to the pitch verus the enjoyment of a small few. That said, I think it was a poor choice of words given some of the rest of whag you say in this post, so I do apologise for that.
Don't be so down on yourself, of course I need you! I get your point though, I was more coming from the stance that we can all agree that most fans taking to the pitch are probably not a danger to anyone but themselves, particularly in the circumstances of the Exeter game.
On the third point, I think the assertion that it is a proper celebration for proper fans suggests that it is somehow more passionate in your opinion, but perhaps that isn't the case.
I agree about the idea that anything is a health and safety risk if you dwell on it enough, but a pitch invasion is a completely avoidable exercise. There's a lot of people like yourself who have been in them before and enjoyed them immensely, but that doesn't mean they should continue. For me it is a recipe for disaster that at some point in the next few seasons is going to lead to something very bad happening somewhere in the football league that will have ramifications for all of us. You see the goading of away fans the last two nights, the rampant drug use inside stadiums, rising knife crime, the need for people to top what went before - I think it's inevitable it will get ugly at some point.
It's tricky. I've spent a lot of time in mosh pits at gigs and that's far more brutal than any scenes you are likely to see at Portman Road. At the same time, it's an expected part of the day that is pretty confined to a dedicated area where everyone involved understands the risks. Once you start brining in third parties like players and staff, potentially against their will then I just don't think you can justify it. | |
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