| Lee Evans 06:02 - Jun 27 with 6728 views | LA_Tractor_Boy |
So many people on Twitter saying we should sell Evans, he's not a CS midfielder and too injury prone etc.
I just don't get it. IMO he was one of our best performers before his knee injury against Derby and he's played nearly 60 matches for ITFC in total.
I know Mass transformed our midfield and Jack Taylor hasn't joined to sit on the bench, but we'll need at least 4 CMs.
4/5 of our 9 central midfielders will probably leave or be loaned out, but I think people have short memories when it comes to discussing Evans.
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| Lee Evans on 09:21 - Jun 27 with 1864 views | LeoMuff |
He would be ok back up in the championship, but if our ambitions are play offs or higher rather than consolidation then he is going to be upto it imho. |  |
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| Lee Evans on 09:26 - Jun 27 with 1844 views | kizaitfc |
Most likely not a dead cert to start like he was last season when fit. But what a player to have as an option when his style of football suits the game.
The way he can spread the ball around and keep possession is very good and will be useful in many games for sure. | |
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| Lee Evans on 09:35 - Jun 27 with 1821 views | BlueySwede |
I really like him. Excellent passer, I love his cross field passes and energy. When fit I really enjoyed his partnership with Morsy. As others has pointed out though, he is injury prone and we need even better players now. Tough call, but I have a feeling he will move on. | | | |
| Lee Evans on 10:25 - Jun 27 with 1763 views | hype313 |
He's too Injury prone, two nasty Knee injury's in 2 years, lacks mobility when fit, can't rely on him.
He'll be sold as our trajectory's are going in different directions. |  |
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| Lee Evans on 10:38 - Jun 27 with 1745 views | Mookamoo |
| Lee Evans on 10:25 - Jun 27 by hype313 |
He's too Injury prone, two nasty Knee injury's in 2 years, lacks mobility when fit, can't rely on him.
He'll be sold as our trajectory's are going in different directions. |
Who are you going to sell him to? |  | | |
| Lee Evans on 10:38 - Jun 27 with 1748 views | itfcsuth |
I don't know where this idea even began.
The thing you can say against him is his injury record - that isn't great of course.
But as an actual footballer - he's terrific, a beautiful passer of the ball, especially his long range ability, technically so so good.
Even the idea he isn't mobile enough isn't true - you hear KJ saying yesterday the players he doesn't want to be in a running group with were Humphreys and Evans.
I think as a group of 5 - Morsy, Taylor, Luongo, Evans & Ball is real depth and quality. |  | | |
| Lee Evans on 10:39 - Jun 27 with 1738 views | hype313 |
| Lee Evans on 10:38 - Jun 27 by Mookamoo |
Who are you going to sell him to? |
Plenty of League One clubs will take him. | |
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| Lee Evans on 10:42 - Jun 27 with 1737 views | DanTheMan |
| Lee Evans on 10:39 - Jun 27 by hype313 |
Plenty of League One clubs will take him. |
Even if we didn't get money for him (or just a small free), getting the wages and the squad place off our books would be good enough. |  |
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| Lee Evans on 10:43 - Jun 27 with 1736 views | StokieBlue |
| Lee Evans on 10:38 - Jun 27 by itfcsuth |
I don't know where this idea even began.
The thing you can say against him is his injury record - that isn't great of course.
But as an actual footballer - he's terrific, a beautiful passer of the ball, especially his long range ability, technically so so good.
Even the idea he isn't mobile enough isn't true - you hear KJ saying yesterday the players he doesn't want to be in a running group with were Humphreys and Evans.
I think as a group of 5 - Morsy, Taylor, Luongo, Evans & Ball is real depth and quality. |
Really not convinced about Ball, I know he was rusty last season but I think there might also be an upgrade there (possibly even Camara).
Evans is a great passer but whether his style helps or hinders our flow is certainly a debate which could and should be had.
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| Lee Evans on 10:50 - Jun 27 with 1719 views | itfcsuth |
| Lee Evans on 10:43 - Jun 27 by StokieBlue |
Really not convinced about Ball, I know he was rusty last season but I think there might also be an upgrade there (possibly even Camara).
Evans is a great passer but whether his style helps or hinders our flow is certainly a debate which could and should be had.
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I think with Ball it was the first time he struggled with a real injury hit season - and every player has them throughout their career - just like Jack Taylor did 2 years go.
But if fit, from the limited we did see I think at times he showed rustiness, but at times showed a bit of class and composure, along with bite and steal.
As a 5th choice, you may struggle to find someone with his quality, professionalism and Champ experience.
He needs a good pre season, something he didn't have last year and was always playing catch up - as with Camara. | | | |
| Lee Evans on 10:52 - Jun 27 with 1710 views | itfcsuth |
| Lee Evans on 10:43 - Jun 27 by StokieBlue |
Really not convinced about Ball, I know he was rusty last season but I think there might also be an upgrade there (possibly even Camara).
Evans is a great passer but whether his style helps or hinders our flow is certainly a debate which could and should be had.
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Evans an interesting one, whether you think he slows us down, whether you think he dictates the tempo, he does really good covering work when we attack.
He seems to be one that causes debate - which is natural amongst fans.
Ultimately I have ultimate faith in KMc, whatever decision they come to on that I'll be happy with. | | | |
| Lee Evans on 10:52 - Jun 27 with 1706 views | hype313 |
| Lee Evans on 10:43 - Jun 27 by StokieBlue |
Really not convinced about Ball, I know he was rusty last season but I think there might also be an upgrade there (possibly even Camara).
Evans is a great passer but whether his style helps or hinders our flow is certainly a debate which could and should be had.
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Indeed, the problem is Ball and Camara are such unknown quantities, both had glowing reports from their respective previous clubs, but it's hard for us to judge. | |
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| Lee Evans on 10:56 - Jun 27 with 1692 views | Mookamoo |
| Lee Evans on 10:42 - Jun 27 by DanTheMan |
Even if we didn't get money for him (or just a small free), getting the wages and the squad place off our books would be good enough. |
So why would he, the player want to go? He has just got a wage bump from going up a league.
Unless someone comes in and offers him longer term security with a 3 year contract, there is zero motivation for him to move on. I can't see anyone doing that given his record over the last couple of seasons.
He is staying. | | | |
| Lee Evans on 11:05 - Jun 27 with 1650 views | ElderGrizzly |
Joe did have some stats on Evans and while all that below is true, I think Joe's stats said he has missed around half a season for the last 3 or 4 seasons I believe.
It's whether we can carry that 'loss' at the expense of a spot in a very limiting 22 outfield player squad.
Edit: Found the stats from Joe:
20/21 - 39 games missed
21/22 - 16 games missed
22/23 - 27 games missed
5 absences for knee injuries (8, 31, 13, 9 & 18 games) plus an illness which saw him miss 3 games.
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| Lee Evans on 11:05 - Jun 27 with 1650 views | dirtyboy |
A simple take on Evans for me is that he’s probably the best at any mid-long ball by some distance.
People bemoan a lack of plan B etc, so Evans will certainly be a player we’ll want to use at times during the season. McKenna absolutely looks at the opponents and looks at ways to exploit, and Evans can do something different to the rest of the squad.
Fit as a fiddle too, covers more ground than he’s given credit for imo.
Understand he’s not the dynamic player we all crave and sad that goes against him, but he’s a very good player. |  | | |
| Lee Evans on 11:08 - Jun 27 with 1640 views | DanTheMan |
| Lee Evans on 10:56 - Jun 27 by Mookamoo |
So why would he, the player want to go? He has just got a wage bump from going up a league.
Unless someone comes in and offers him longer term security with a 3 year contract, there is zero motivation for him to move on. I can't see anyone doing that given his record over the last couple of seasons.
He is staying. |
Depends if he wants to play football I guess as I just can't see him getting many games with Morsy, Taylor, and Luongo in front of him.
If he's happy to sit around and not play whilst getting paid then he might well be staying. | |
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| Lee Evans on 11:11 - Jun 27 with 1618 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Lee Evans on 11:05 - Jun 27 by dirtyboy |
A simple take on Evans for me is that he’s probably the best at any mid-long ball by some distance.
People bemoan a lack of plan B etc, so Evans will certainly be a player we’ll want to use at times during the season. McKenna absolutely looks at the opponents and looks at ways to exploit, and Evans can do something different to the rest of the squad.
Fit as a fiddle too, covers more ground than he’s given credit for imo.
Understand he’s not the dynamic player we all crave and sad that goes against him, but he’s a very good player. |
"Fit as a fiddle"
He's missed 82 games over the last 3 seasons. | | | |
| Lee Evans on 11:27 - Jun 27 with 1588 views | dirtyboy |
| Lee Evans on 11:11 - Jun 27 by ElderGrizzly |
"Fit as a fiddle"
He's missed 82 games over the last 3 seasons. |
Lol! Yeah…ok…I mean when he’s ‘actually’ playing, he covers a lot of ground. | | | |
| Lee Evans on 11:40 - Jun 27 with 1575 views | Stewart27 |
| Lee Evans on 06:42 - Jun 27 by mkbobby |
Great passer but I just felt he slowed our game down and couldn’t tackle for toffee & turned like the titanic , time to move on |
If only we could have found a midfielder in league one/championship that could pass like Beckham, tackle like Vieira and turn like Messi.
Why is it time to move on from the POTS last year up until the injury.
His passing is outstanding, compliments Morsy and has much more tenacity to his game than given credit for. | | | |
| Lee Evans on 11:41 - Jun 27 with 1562 views | Stewart27 |
| Lee Evans on 06:28 - Jun 27 by franz_tyson |
Can we afford him to be out for half the the season? Even though he's a big unit, I find him a bit sluggish and not as dynamic as a Morsy or a Luongo. Think he's an obvious one to move on with his injury history. |
Yes we can.
That’s pretty much how long we need him for. 4 into 2 makes it half a season required. 5 into 2 makes it a little under half a season each required. 6 into 2 even less. You get where I’m going here. | | | |
| Lee Evans on 11:44 - Jun 27 with 1536 views | Herbivore |
| Lee Evans on 11:27 - Jun 27 by dirtyboy |
Lol! Yeah…ok…I mean when he’s ‘actually’ playing, he covers a lot of ground. |
But when he can't sustain that for much more than 10 games at a time then it's questionable how useful his contribution can be. |  |
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| Lee Evans on 12:11 - Jun 27 with 1498 views | BigCommon |
Thought he was excellent before he was injured.
No surprise, imo, that we struggled without him for a period, before Luongo came in.
Could see him remaining as a squad player. Not least because it might not be so easy to move him on, given his injury record and his, now, increased Championship wage.. But, as a squad player, used sparingly, then wed be able to manage his fitness much better..
The one thing that goes against him a little bit, as a bench player, imo, is his lack of versatility. A player like Dom Ball for instance, can play MF or as an emergency CB. Which gives us a bit more cover of the bench.
Personally think we would be better off with a slightly bloated squad, as long as some players are happy playing a bit part...At one point last season we had, Aluko, Camara, Ball, Harness, and Evans all missing at once. So , imo, it would be prudent to have, too many on paper, in MF than too few. |  | | |
| Lee Evans on 12:27 - Jun 27 with 1471 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Lee Evans on 11:27 - Jun 27 by dirtyboy |
Lol! Yeah…ok…I mean when he’s ‘actually’ playing, he covers a lot of ground. |
He was so active when he wasn't dead vibes :) | | | |
| Lee Evans on 19:28 - Jun 27 with 1370 views | southnorfolkblue |
| Lee Evans on 11:40 - Jun 27 by Stewart27 |
If only we could have found a midfielder in league one/championship that could pass like Beckham, tackle like Vieira and turn like Messi.
Why is it time to move on from the POTS last year up until the injury.
His passing is outstanding, compliments Morsy and has much more tenacity to his game than given credit for. |
Which injury?
He’s spent as much time in the last 5 years on the treatment table as on the pitch.
That’s why we should offload him imho | |
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