| Ladapo not for sale.... 09:57 - Jul 5 with 8443 views | Kieran_Knows |
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| Ladapo not for sale.... on 11:09 - Jul 5 with 2496 views | IPSWICHFANITFC |
| Ladapo not for sale.... on 10:51 - Jul 5 by BigCommon |
Hes a much better player than the Ladapo that arrived here. He's worked hard to improve his game. He's an absolute Ox with his back to goal. And his last two, really well taken goals, away at Posh and Fleetwood, showed signs, imo, that he's worked on his finishing and getting his shots off a fraction earlier..
He's a McKenna signing. Scored 21 goals in his debut season here, mostly off the bench second half of the season. And all that, after a slowish start to life here.
On top of that, his partner was heavily pregnant and he became a father for the first time, which can be mentally draining. I dare say he fell under the "illness in the camp" category around Christmas time, too. And put in one or two sluggish performances at that time.
When Hirst arrived, he didn't shrink back, he found another level and welcomed the healthy competition.
He's low maintenance, shown strength of character, a willingness to improve.Knows the way we play and what's expected of a selfless forward.And plays a part in our squad harmony..
It's a no brainer for me, that Freddy stays here. Even if we were to sign a couple more forwards. We really need two at all times with the workrate needed and the way KM likes to freshen up the forward players, in game..With risk of injury or suspension at any point in the season to a front man. I think 3 forwards is ideally needed. With Ladapo, most certainly one of them.
Said it before, but Leif Davis aside, imo, based on cost and contribution to the season. Freddy is up there with our best bit of recruitment last season. |
Great post.
When you sum it up like that and with us now being able to name 9 subs, he stands in a strong position to contribute - if he then wanted more minutes, then I'm sure there will be a few L1 clubs in the top 6 looking to strengthen in January to get them over the line and he'd be a striker you'd pay your money for. |  |
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| Blimey, 5 down votes…. on 11:14 - Jul 5 with 2468 views | Bloots |
| Happy to keep him as…. on 10:15 - Jul 5 by Bloots |
….3rd choice, equally happy to flog him if it makes sense.
Unfortunately he’s currently 1st choice and potentially going to be 2nd choice at worst as we head into the season.
Ashton keeps telling us how great he is at “player trading”, he probably needs to start proving it. |
….for saying that Ladapo shouldn’t be our 1st choice CF and that we need to sign some players.
Amazed that you don’t think that!
Bunch of weirdos. |  |
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| Ladapo not for sale.... on 11:14 - Jul 5 with 2465 views | RobTheMonk |
| Ladapo not for sale.... on 10:51 - Jul 5 by BigCommon |
Hes a much better player than the Ladapo that arrived here. He's worked hard to improve his game. He's an absolute Ox with his back to goal. And his last two, really well taken goals, away at Posh and Fleetwood, showed signs, imo, that he's worked on his finishing and getting his shots off a fraction earlier..
He's a McKenna signing. Scored 21 goals in his debut season here, mostly off the bench second half of the season. And all that, after a slowish start to life here.
On top of that, his partner was heavily pregnant and he became a father for the first time, which can be mentally draining. I dare say he fell under the "illness in the camp" category around Christmas time, too. And put in one or two sluggish performances at that time.
When Hirst arrived, he didn't shrink back, he found another level and welcomed the healthy competition.
He's low maintenance, shown strength of character, a willingness to improve.Knows the way we play and what's expected of a selfless forward.And plays a part in our squad harmony..
It's a no brainer for me, that Freddy stays here. Even if we were to sign a couple more forwards. We really need two at all times with the workrate needed and the way KM likes to freshen up the forward players, in game..With risk of injury or suspension at any point in the season to a front man. I think 3 forwards is ideally needed. With Ladapo, most certainly one of them.
Said it before, but Leif Davis aside, imo, based on cost and contribution to the season. Freddy is up there with our best bit of recruitment last season. |
I'd be genuinely interested to see if there's ever been research on male professional athlete performances post childbirth and if injuries are more prevalent especially in the first year.
I've only just started playing football again, over a year after the twins were born. I was utterly drained both physically and mentally. [Post edited 5 Jul 2023 11:18]
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| Blimey, 5 down votes…. on 11:15 - Jul 5 with 2457 views | BiGDonnie |
| Blimey, 5 down votes…. on 11:14 - Jul 5 by Bloots |
….for saying that Ladapo shouldn’t be our 1st choice CF and that we need to sign some players.
Amazed that you don’t think that!
Bunch of weirdos. |
I downvoted for your dig at Ashton  |  |
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| Fair enough! (n/t) on 11:18 - Jul 5 with 2428 views | Bloots |
| Blimey, 5 down votes…. on 11:15 - Jul 5 by BiGDonnie |
I downvoted for your dig at Ashton |
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| Ladapo not for sale.... on 12:15 - Jul 5 with 2295 views | J2BLUE |
Not sure why he would be. We have a better squad with him in it. I don't doubt that we will sign two strikers but we need strength in depth and Ladapo has more than enough good qualities to be part of the squad. |  |
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| Ladapo not for sale.... on 12:28 - Jul 5 with 2255 views | NthQldITFC |
| Ladapo not for sale.... on 10:51 - Jul 5 by BigCommon |
Hes a much better player than the Ladapo that arrived here. He's worked hard to improve his game. He's an absolute Ox with his back to goal. And his last two, really well taken goals, away at Posh and Fleetwood, showed signs, imo, that he's worked on his finishing and getting his shots off a fraction earlier..
He's a McKenna signing. Scored 21 goals in his debut season here, mostly off the bench second half of the season. And all that, after a slowish start to life here.
On top of that, his partner was heavily pregnant and he became a father for the first time, which can be mentally draining. I dare say he fell under the "illness in the camp" category around Christmas time, too. And put in one or two sluggish performances at that time.
When Hirst arrived, he didn't shrink back, he found another level and welcomed the healthy competition.
He's low maintenance, shown strength of character, a willingness to improve.Knows the way we play and what's expected of a selfless forward.And plays a part in our squad harmony..
It's a no brainer for me, that Freddy stays here. Even if we were to sign a couple more forwards. We really need two at all times with the workrate needed and the way KM likes to freshen up the forward players, in game..With risk of injury or suspension at any point in the season to a front man. I think 3 forwards is ideally needed. With Ladapo, most certainly one of them.
Said it before, but Leif Davis aside, imo, based on cost and contribution to the season. Freddy is up there with our best bit of recruitment last season. |
Absolutely agree with all of that. Didn't know about the pregnancy/illness things, but even without that, I was very impressed with his performances and adaptability. His goals record speaks for itself, and as you say, back to goal, you won't get much better for less than several million quid. Love Freddie, and would be quite happy to see him sharing the load with Hirst/equivalent plus one more hybrid 9/10. |  |
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| Probably more hits than misses…. on 12:35 - Jul 5 with 2220 views | Nutkins_Return |
| Probably more hits than misses…. on 10:50 - Jul 5 by Bloots |
….but it’s not been perfect.
Also it’s a lot easier when you’re a 3rd division club with a few quid and happy to pay decent wages.
We need to improve in 4 key areas, so far we are stronger in one of them and weaker in another.
We aren’t playing FGR, Cheltenham and Exeter next season. |
There is not a club in the world that is perfect with transfer dealings.
I don't think you could ask anymore from him since the minute he came in when it has come to transfers. Landing our primary targets for the most part, actually exceeding expectations on level of player and more crucially not paying over the odds for the most part and doj g the business under the radar. Amazing how many transfers we do now that arent leaked.
He's done a great job, and it's a pretty low common to say "needs to start proving it". "Needs to continue the good job he's done to date" would have been the right words! |  |
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| Happy to keep him as…. on 12:36 - Jul 5 with 2217 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Happy to keep him as…. on 10:15 - Jul 5 by Bloots |
….3rd choice, equally happy to flog him if it makes sense.
Unfortunately he’s currently 1st choice and potentially going to be 2nd choice at worst as we head into the season.
Ashton keeps telling us how great he is at “player trading”, he probably needs to start proving it. |
I think you may be forgetting the signings that he has already made, and their impact. Particularly the signings in the January window when, for years, we have been sold the line that it is very difficult to do good business then. | | | |
| I specifically said.... on 12:44 - Jul 5 with 2168 views | Bloots |
| Happy to keep him as…. on 12:36 - Jul 5 by ArnoldMoorhen |
I think you may be forgetting the signings that he has already made, and their impact. Particularly the signings in the January window when, for years, we have been sold the line that it is very difficult to do good business then. |
...."player trading", there's more to it than signings.
It's clear that we need to move players out before we can bring better players in, our squad players aren't all up to Championship standard.
We can't just give away the signings that don't work out, that's not "trading".
We aren't a charity and FFP needs to be taken into account. | |
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| Ladapo not for sale.... on 12:51 - Jul 5 with 2136 views | SE1blue |
| Ladapo not for sale.... on 12:15 - Jul 5 by J2BLUE |
Not sure why he would be. We have a better squad with him in it. I don't doubt that we will sign two strikers but we need strength in depth and Ladapo has more than enough good qualities to be part of the squad. |
Really surprised how keen some appear to move on from him.
His stats show he fits and suits the style we play - we need players who can immediately pick up from where we left off. His attitude (which some Rotherham fans suggested was negative) has been excellent. He's continuously improved under McKenna. Actually feel sorry for the guy that a number of fans are dismissing him so easily. |  |
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| Ladapo not for sale.... on 12:52 - Jul 5 with 2130 views | wrightsrightglove |
| Ladapo not for sale.... on 12:28 - Jul 5 by NthQldITFC |
Absolutely agree with all of that. Didn't know about the pregnancy/illness things, but even without that, I was very impressed with his performances and adaptability. His goals record speaks for itself, and as you say, back to goal, you won't get much better for less than several million quid. Love Freddie, and would be quite happy to see him sharing the load with Hirst/equivalent plus one more hybrid 9/10. |
I also think continuity is so important at the start of this season. Freddie has no doubt improved over last season and both him and Hirst took a while to fully get up to speed with McKenna-ball and how we play. Having Freddie means we start the season with someone who knows exactly how we play, what’s expected of them and has a relationship with the attacking players around him. I think this is also one of the biggest benefits of being Hirst back, he’s ready to hit the ground running. | | | |
| I specifically said.... on 12:54 - Jul 5 with 2122 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| I specifically said.... on 12:44 - Jul 5 by Bloots |
...."player trading", there's more to it than signings.
It's clear that we need to move players out before we can bring better players in, our squad players aren't all up to Championship standard.
We can't just give away the signings that don't work out, that's not "trading".
We aren't a charity and FFP needs to be taken into account. |
OK, but firstly, he has credit in the bank because he has done very well on one side of the equation already, and, secondly, I would expect us to bring in targets first, where possible, so that we aren’t left short towards the end of the window and forced into less good deals out of desperation. | | | |
| Ladapo not for sale.... on 13:06 - Jul 5 with 2056 views | BigCommon |
| Ladapo not for sale.... on 12:52 - Jul 5 by wrightsrightglove |
I also think continuity is so important at the start of this season. Freddie has no doubt improved over last season and both him and Hirst took a while to fully get up to speed with McKenna-ball and how we play. Having Freddie means we start the season with someone who knows exactly how we play, what’s expected of them and has a relationship with the attacking players around him. I think this is also one of the biggest benefits of being Hirst back, he’s ready to hit the ground running. |
Totally agree here. Even if Freddy moved down the pecking order. There's no doubt on the training pitch, he would be an asset in helping any new forwards bed in to how we play... On top of that, it just seems daft to bin off 20 goals from any squad and hope that a new forward hits the ground running. |  | | |
| Ladapo not for sale.... on 13:10 - Jul 5 with 2048 views | whymark4lazio0 |
| Ladapo not for sale.... on 10:51 - Jul 5 by BigCommon |
Hes a much better player than the Ladapo that arrived here. He's worked hard to improve his game. He's an absolute Ox with his back to goal. And his last two, really well taken goals, away at Posh and Fleetwood, showed signs, imo, that he's worked on his finishing and getting his shots off a fraction earlier..
He's a McKenna signing. Scored 21 goals in his debut season here, mostly off the bench second half of the season. And all that, after a slowish start to life here.
On top of that, his partner was heavily pregnant and he became a father for the first time, which can be mentally draining. I dare say he fell under the "illness in the camp" category around Christmas time, too. And put in one or two sluggish performances at that time.
When Hirst arrived, he didn't shrink back, he found another level and welcomed the healthy competition.
He's low maintenance, shown strength of character, a willingness to improve.Knows the way we play and what's expected of a selfless forward.And plays a part in our squad harmony..
It's a no brainer for me, that Freddy stays here. Even if we were to sign a couple more forwards. We really need two at all times with the workrate needed and the way KM likes to freshen up the forward players, in game..With risk of injury or suspension at any point in the season to a front man. I think 3 forwards is ideally needed. With Ladapo, most certainly one of them.
Said it before, but Leif Davis aside, imo, based on cost and contribution to the season. Freddy is up there with our best bit of recruitment last season. |
Well said. Freddie has been excellent and 100% committed to the team. Mckenna knows exactly what we need. | |
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| Ladapo not for sale.... on 13:32 - Jul 5 with 1985 views | TalkingBlues |
Would have been entirely more accurate (and less misleading) to say “silly bids” |  |
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| Ladapo not for sale.... on 13:51 - Jul 5 with 1905 views | Tractor_Boy_in_HK |
Not a chance. He was benched and had a poor attitude at Rotherham. He handed in a transfer request in Dec/Jan when they were top of the table and was firmly on the bench thereafter. If you listened to the excellent BBC podcast following the club, his agent was repeatedly in Paul's office. Can't see Warne welcoming him back. | | | |
| Happy to keep him as…. on 15:12 - Jul 5 with 1794 views | rickw |
| Happy to keep him as…. on 10:15 - Jul 5 by Bloots |
….3rd choice, equally happy to flog him if it makes sense.
Unfortunately he’s currently 1st choice and potentially going to be 2nd choice at worst as we head into the season.
Ashton keeps telling us how great he is at “player trading”, he probably needs to start proving it. |
When we're being quoted £7m+ for new strikers I can't see we'll be able to afford 2 of them!
I think it'll be 1, be it Hirst, Simms or someone else and Freddie pushing them and ensuring they're at the top of their game.
Even if we don't get anyone yet, Freddie will do a solid job in the Championship and I'm sure his worth to us will be more than any L1 club can afford |  |
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| Blimey, 5 down votes…. on 15:44 - Jul 5 with 1753 views | ReusersTown |
| Blimey, 5 down votes…. on 11:14 - Jul 5 by Bloots |
….for saying that Ladapo shouldn’t be our 1st choice CF and that we need to sign some players.
Amazed that you don’t think that!
Bunch of weirdos. |
It's probably down to you terrible attitude. And negativity as a base point more than the point your making itself. Just take a couple of weeks off or something if you can't handle it! [Post edited 5 Jul 2023 15:45]
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| Happy to keep him as…. on 16:14 - Jul 5 with 1676 views | Herbivore |
| Happy to keep him as…. on 15:12 - Jul 5 by rickw |
When we're being quoted £7m+ for new strikers I can't see we'll be able to afford 2 of them!
I think it'll be 1, be it Hirst, Simms or someone else and Freddie pushing them and ensuring they're at the top of their game.
Even if we don't get anyone yet, Freddie will do a solid job in the Championship and I'm sure his worth to us will be more than any L1 club can afford |
I think we'll see a decent fee spent on Hirst or Simms or m equivalent, then a more modest fee (possibly a Prem loan) on a player who can play as a 9 or 10 (could be TJJ, if not someone in that mould). Ladapo will still have a role to play as a like for like swap for the Hirst type forward but we'll have other cover there that offers a slightly different option as well. |  |
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| Ladapo not for sale.... on 17:40 - Jul 5 with 1562 views | WestSussexBlue |
| Ladapo not for sale.... on 10:45 - Jul 5 by tractorboy1978 |
Striker is the one area I do slightly worry about us being left short. I actually think we got fortunate with Ladapo's durability at times last season. We've obviously lost Hirst but also JJ who was a decent hybrid forward option. And I'll be surprised if Jackson doesn't make way at some point this summer personally, who is another that has played that central role.
I would think we need to bring in a striker + a hybrid forward at a minimum. And two strikers + a hybrid forward if Ladapo goes. I suspect McKenna would really like to have Ladapo around regardless but limited squad spaces may now allow it. [Post edited 5 Jul 2023 10:46]
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Good point, wonder if Derby would want Jackson although he’s a different type of player of course and not a target man. | | | |
| Ladapo not for sale.... on 03:31 - Jul 6 with 1415 views | ArchiRob |
| Ladapo not for sale.... on 10:51 - Jul 5 by BigCommon |
Hes a much better player than the Ladapo that arrived here. He's worked hard to improve his game. He's an absolute Ox with his back to goal. And his last two, really well taken goals, away at Posh and Fleetwood, showed signs, imo, that he's worked on his finishing and getting his shots off a fraction earlier..
He's a McKenna signing. Scored 21 goals in his debut season here, mostly off the bench second half of the season. And all that, after a slowish start to life here.
On top of that, his partner was heavily pregnant and he became a father for the first time, which can be mentally draining. I dare say he fell under the "illness in the camp" category around Christmas time, too. And put in one or two sluggish performances at that time.
When Hirst arrived, he didn't shrink back, he found another level and welcomed the healthy competition.
He's low maintenance, shown strength of character, a willingness to improve.Knows the way we play and what's expected of a selfless forward.And plays a part in our squad harmony..
It's a no brainer for me, that Freddy stays here. Even if we were to sign a couple more forwards. We really need two at all times with the workrate needed and the way KM likes to freshen up the forward players, in game..With risk of injury or suspension at any point in the season to a front man. I think 3 forwards is ideally needed. With Ladapo, most certainly one of them.
Said it before, but Leif Davis aside, imo, based on cost and contribution to the season. Freddy is up there with our best bit of recruitment last season. |
Thanks for articulating what many feel, wish I could upvote more than 1.
Not sure why he is so disrespected by some members on this board. His numbers alone do his talking he is also a great character to have around, and he will continue to go from strength to strength.
I am positive many of our current rivals would welcome him with open arms. [Post edited 6 Jul 2023 5:11]
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| Ladapo not for sale.... on 05:44 - Jul 6 with 1399 views | PioneerBlue |
3 week into an 11 week window. | |
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