| Jordan Henderson interview - The Athletic 08:35 - Sep 5 with 6273 views | RobTheMonk |
The interviewer does not give him as easy time…
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| Jordan Henderson interview - The Athletic on 12:37 - Sep 5 with 2029 views | LeoMuff |
| Jordan Henderson interview - The Athletic on 12:09 - Sep 5 by Macedonian_Gerrard |
Comes across horrendously. The bit were he talks about being presented with stories of worker abuse in Qatar by Amnesty International but then when he got there for the World Cup it was actually all ok is quite something, to admit you can be sports-washed that easily....
Incredibly i think if he just straight up said "i did it all for the cash and parked my morals at the door" he would've come out of this better. Disgraceful too that Southgate has still picked him for England given how 'vocal' he's been about LGBTQ+ rights himself, the whole thing stinks. [Post edited 5 Sep 2023 12:10]
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It’s an absolute howler of an interview, the guy must be thick as mince. |  |
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| Jordan Henderson interview - The Athletic on 12:41 - Sep 5 with 2030 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
If he wanted to live in a backward place where you can’t understand what the locals are saying, and where he’ll never win anything meaningful, he could have stayed at Liverpool. |  | | |
| Jordan Henderson interview - The Athletic on 13:12 - Sep 5 with 1968 views | Exiled2Surrey |
You have to wonder why he did the interview in the first place given that he MUST have known that this would be the inevitable reaction. I am sure he would rather have kept his head down but I suppose the commitment to support the league came with the package (a bit like CR supporting some cruise company owned by the PIF). He is not on that package just to play football. Best to ignore the whole thing IMO. | | | |
| Some of the main points; on 13:23 - Sep 5 with 1950 views | BlueBadger |
| Some of the main points; on 12:02 - Sep 5 by Illinoisblue |
“The project is exciting”. Yeah playing in front of 7k crowds in a backward country must be so exciting.
More respect if if he’d come out and said “signing here was like winning the lottery, couldn’t turn it down” |
Let's face it, he could have just signed for MK Dons if he wanted to play for £7K crowds in a backward country. |  |
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| Jordan Henderson interview - The Athletic on 13:25 - Sep 5 with 1941 views | BlueBadger |
| Jordan Henderson interview - The Athletic on 12:41 - Sep 5 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
If he wanted to live in a backward place where you can’t understand what the locals are saying, and where he’ll never win anything meaningful, he could have stayed at Liverpool. |
Or signed for Norwich. | |
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| Jordan Henderson interview - The Athletic on 13:44 - Sep 5 with 1914 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Jordan Henderson interview - The Athletic on 12:09 - Sep 5 by Macedonian_Gerrard |
Comes across horrendously. The bit were he talks about being presented with stories of worker abuse in Qatar by Amnesty International but then when he got there for the World Cup it was actually all ok is quite something, to admit you can be sports-washed that easily....
Incredibly i think if he just straight up said "i did it all for the cash and parked my morals at the door" he would've come out of this better. Disgraceful too that Southgate has still picked him for England given how 'vocal' he's been about LGBTQ+ rights himself, the whole thing stinks. [Post edited 5 Sep 2023 12:10]
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I dont think Henderson should be picked, but my reason is that he is playing in a poor league and has basically retired from competitive football.
If GS dropped him for because of the Saudi human rights record etc, he would soon be getting asked not to select Newcastle players. |  |
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| Jordan Henderson interview - The Athletic on 18:14 - Sep 5 with 1824 views | nshearman1 |
| Jordan Henderson interview - The Athletic on 13:44 - Sep 5 by Marshalls_Mullet |
I dont think Henderson should be picked, but my reason is that he is playing in a poor league and has basically retired from competitive football.
If GS dropped him for because of the Saudi human rights record etc, he would soon be getting asked not to select Newcastle players. |
Which would be a good thing and show that someone in football actually had some moral fibre. Jamal Kashoggi, anyone? | | | |
| Jordan Henderson interview - The Athletic on 18:31 - Sep 5 with 1789 views | ibbleobble |
| Jordan Henderson interview - The Athletic on 10:15 - Sep 5 by LankHenners |
Bit of a car crash really from him, says it wasn't for the money but then doesn't really offer an alternative reason for going other than vaguely recalling a conversation with Gerrard (who would have no reason to discuss Henderson's wages anyway) where they only discussed 'the project'.
Claims he can make a 'positive difference' but also says the things people say about Saudi Arabia aren't actually that bad (like with Qatar as well, according to him), and blames the negative reaction on social media rather than people in real life.
Also includes the classic 'I'm sorry if people are upset, it wasn't my intention to hurt them' argument. Would be better off admitting the obvious 'I sold my morals, which I didn't believe in as strongly as I claimed I did, because I'm a greedy pig who wants to chase the money'. |
What price would you sell your morals for? I’d probably settle at about £5m. | | | |
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| Jordan Henderson interview - The Athletic on 20:13 - Sep 5 with 1750 views | J2BLUE |
Incredible. I said we should wait and hear him out but this was laughable. |  |
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| Money talks and bullsh1t walks on 20:21 - Sep 5 with 1745 views | Dyland |
nfft |  |
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| Jordan Henderson interview - The Athletic on 20:36 - Sep 5 with 1724 views | Hipsterectomy |
his literal signing video edited out his captain arm band in black and white to show he didn't/doesn't support lgbt rights lol |  |
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| Jordan Henderson interview - The Athletic on 20:45 - Sep 5 with 1704 views | WeWereZombies |
The BBC now have an article with some of the interview as well as reasons Henderson has given for how hurt he feels at the reactions. No reasoning, just pleading for his feeling to be left untroubled...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66714875 |  |
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| Jordan Henderson interview - The Athletic on 21:11 - Sep 5 with 1682 views | Vegtablue |
He concedes he's partly left on account of elite clubs no longer wanting him and concurrently talks about future England appearances and the Euros!
Get your house in order Gareth! | | | |
| Jordan Henderson interview - The Athletic on 09:05 - Sep 6 with 1581 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Jordan Henderson interview - The Athletic on 10:23 - Sep 5 by Vaughan8 |
Just out of interest, what was his reason?
He must think we're all stupid. As someone else said, he would be better of just saying it's too good to turn down.
If they were paying him the same as Liverpool, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have gone. |
He likes making sand castles in his spare time. Def info 👍 |  |
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| Jordan Henderson interview - The Athletic on 10:10 - Sep 6 with 1537 views | Darth_Koont |
People are rightly calling out Henderson’s choices and “explanation” here. The point being that what makes sense to him for personal and largely financial reasons doesn’t match his stance on the underlying human rights issues with the Saudi regime.
But what about our own responsibilities? Successive governments elected by us and representing us as a country have gone way further to strategically partner with Saudi Arabia, arm it and train it for the ongoing Yemen campaign and its awful civilian impact, and normalise relations with/apologise for a dictatorial regime with a deplorable human rights and anti-democratic record when it should be sanctioned.
It strikes me as odd and more than a little hypocritical that we expect an individual to see Saudi Arabia as beyond the pale despite their own selfish interests, but collectively we’re seemingly quite happy to do exactly that. |  |
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| Jordan Henderson interview - The Athletic on 11:13 - Sep 6 with 1501 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Jordan Henderson interview - The Athletic on 10:10 - Sep 6 by Darth_Koont |
People are rightly calling out Henderson’s choices and “explanation” here. The point being that what makes sense to him for personal and largely financial reasons doesn’t match his stance on the underlying human rights issues with the Saudi regime.
But what about our own responsibilities? Successive governments elected by us and representing us as a country have gone way further to strategically partner with Saudi Arabia, arm it and train it for the ongoing Yemen campaign and its awful civilian impact, and normalise relations with/apologise for a dictatorial regime with a deplorable human rights and anti-democratic record when it should be sanctioned.
It strikes me as odd and more than a little hypocritical that we expect an individual to see Saudi Arabia as beyond the pale despite their own selfish interests, but collectively we’re seemingly quite happy to do exactly that. |
We are all hypocrites ultimately, happy to buy cheap sh1te from China whilst they brutilise the uyghurs, citizens of HK, and threaten Taiwan. Some people were even happy for the former Leader of the Opposition to be be a paid mouthpiece for the Iranian state with all their human rights abuses. | | | |
| Jordan Henderson interview - The Athletic on 11:36 - Sep 6 with 1470 views | Darth_Koont |
| Jordan Henderson interview - The Athletic on 11:13 - Sep 6 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
We are all hypocrites ultimately, happy to buy cheap sh1te from China whilst they brutilise the uyghurs, citizens of HK, and threaten Taiwan. Some people were even happy for the former Leader of the Opposition to be be a paid mouthpiece for the Iranian state with all their human rights abuses. |
Lazy stuff as per. He wasn’t “a mouthpiece for the Iranian state” and has called it out for it’s human rights abuses. What you mean is that he appeared on the Iranian-backed Press TV to talk about the ongoing occupation and oppression of Palestinians.
You’re right, he should have gone on one of the countless UK current affairs outlets that address this ... oh. | |
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| Jordan Henderson interview - The Athletic on 11:44 - Sep 6 with 1444 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Jordan Henderson interview - The Athletic on 11:36 - Sep 6 by Darth_Koont |
Lazy stuff as per. He wasn’t “a mouthpiece for the Iranian state” and has called it out for it’s human rights abuses. What you mean is that he appeared on the Iranian-backed Press TV to talk about the ongoing occupation and oppression of Palestinians.
You’re right, he should have gone on one of the countless UK current affairs outlets that address this ... oh. |
So he wasn’t paid by the Iranian state, and it was the only channel IN THE WORLD he could express
his views? A channel which promotes homophobia, antisemitism, and backs Assad and Putin. Like Henderson he was happy to ignore Iran’s abuses and take the $ - there is literally no difference.
Seems like I’m not the disingenuous one here… [Post edited 6 Sep 2023 11:47]
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| Jordan Henderson interview - The Athletic on 12:04 - Sep 6 with 1418 views | Darth_Koont |
| Jordan Henderson interview - The Athletic on 11:44 - Sep 6 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
So he wasn’t paid by the Iranian state, and it was the only channel IN THE WORLD he could express
his views? A channel which promotes homophobia, antisemitism, and backs Assad and Putin. Like Henderson he was happy to ignore Iran’s abuses and take the $ - there is literally no difference.
Seems like I’m not the disingenuous one here… [Post edited 6 Sep 2023 11:47]
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True, he could have gone on Al Jazeera. Where else for a discussion that highlights the ongoing injustice? And you say “happy to ignore Iran’s abuses” but that’s the point, he hasn’t.
Now you’re of course backing a Labour Party who have pretty much kicked Palestine and its people into the long grass. So suck on that first. | |
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| Jordan Henderson interview - The Athletic on 12:09 - Sep 6 with 1402 views | JammyDodgerrr |
A really great interview, well done to the interviewer. Listen to the Guardian Football Weekly too, they cover it and it's really good content. |  |
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| Jordan Henderson interview - The Athletic on 16:27 - Sep 6 with 1314 views | pointofblue |
| Jordan Henderson interview - The Athletic on 10:10 - Sep 6 by Darth_Koont |
People are rightly calling out Henderson’s choices and “explanation” here. The point being that what makes sense to him for personal and largely financial reasons doesn’t match his stance on the underlying human rights issues with the Saudi regime.
But what about our own responsibilities? Successive governments elected by us and representing us as a country have gone way further to strategically partner with Saudi Arabia, arm it and train it for the ongoing Yemen campaign and its awful civilian impact, and normalise relations with/apologise for a dictatorial regime with a deplorable human rights and anti-democratic record when it should be sanctioned.
It strikes me as odd and more than a little hypocritical that we expect an individual to see Saudi Arabia as beyond the pale despite their own selfish interests, but collectively we’re seemingly quite happy to do exactly that. |
Whilst I agree with your overall point, I think the issue is that Henderson made himself a bastion for LQBTQIA+ rights; a standard bearer against discrimination and vocal supporter at every opportunity. So to then take the Saudi coin comes across as more than slightly hypocritical. There is a reason why Henderson is getting more flak for his decision than Gerrard.
Rodgers apparently just sees it as the 'morality officers' playing up. He doesn't have a clue.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66732863 | |
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| Jordan Henderson interview - The Athletic on 16:29 - Sep 6 with 1312 views | HankScorpio |
| Jordan Henderson interview - The Athletic on 16:27 - Sep 6 by pointofblue |
Whilst I agree with your overall point, I think the issue is that Henderson made himself a bastion for LQBTQIA+ rights; a standard bearer against discrimination and vocal supporter at every opportunity. So to then take the Saudi coin comes across as more than slightly hypocritical. There is a reason why Henderson is getting more flak for his decision than Gerrard.
Rodgers apparently just sees it as the 'morality officers' playing up. He doesn't have a clue.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66732863 |
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