| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo 09:36 - Oct 5 with 5725 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
More bizarreness from Tory Party Conference. When did 'jokes' just become blatant lies?
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| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 12:47 - Oct 5 with 2176 views | Blueschev |
| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 12:35 - Oct 5 by BlueBadger |
And, like a large number of Tories, he was fond of occasionally turning out to defend Putin. Although unlike the Tories he appears to have been doing it for free. |
Do you have an example of him "defending" Putin? |  | | |
| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 12:48 - Oct 5 with 2179 views | BrianTablet |
I think the Tories are terrified that Labour will tax posh blokes putting their old man inside a dead pig. |  |
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| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 12:55 - Oct 5 with 2136 views | itfcjoe |
| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 12:47 - Oct 5 by Blueschev |
Do you have an example of him "defending" Putin? |
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| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 12:58 - Oct 5 with 2122 views | blueasfook |
| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 11:50 - Oct 5 by J2BLUE |
For the average UK resident, almost certainly not.
Russia has shown us how united NATO needs to be though and would imagine Ukraine would be in a much worse position if we elected Corbyn.
The UK has led the way on several key issues for Ukraine. They would not have our tanks or Storm Shadow missiles. Obviously the US has led the effort and i'm not claiming otherwise but the UK has been one of Ukraine's closest allies. I dread to think how it would be playing out with a divided NATO and Corbyn likely encouraging Ukraine to the negotiating table to give up territory. [Post edited 5 Oct 2023 11:53]
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Sorry J2, accidentally gave you a downie. It was meant for Karl Marx Jr below. |  |
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| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 12:58 - Oct 5 with 2114 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 11:32 - Oct 5 by The_Flashing_Smile |
It wasn't so long ago you were warning us about the existential threat of Corbyn.
Is what we have now any better than what that would've been? |
I would have thought that a professional comedian such as yourself would have got the joke dollers. I know it wasn't one of my better ones but certainly not my wurst. |  |
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| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 12:59 - Oct 5 with 2111 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 12:22 - Oct 5 by lowhouseblue |
we know exactly what he would have done because the prophet has spoken. to quote the guardian:
"Corbyn, by contrast, has urged western countries to stop arming Ukraine, insisting that providing weapons will only prolong the conflict. “Pouring arms in isn’t going to bring about a solution; it’s only going to prolong and exaggerate this war,” Corbyn said in an interview with a Beirut-based TV channel last August."
your only possible defence of him is that the rest of the plp would have had to unite to kick the old twerp out. |
It's a pointless debate as it's very easy to make such proclamations when in opposition, very different when you're in the hot seat (and you have a government not a dictatorship).
And all this is a distraction. I asked, "Is what we have now any better than what that would've been?" I thought it didn't need saying I meant in this country, but it would be great if people could answer that. | |
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| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 13:03 - Oct 5 with 2088 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 12:58 - Oct 5 by GlasgowBlue |
I would have thought that a professional comedian such as yourself would have got the joke dollers. I know it wasn't one of my better ones but certainly not my wurst. |
I enjoyed both your puns Glassers, then moved on and asked you a question about something else.
Also, I'm not a professional comedian. I haven't been paid for a single gig yet. Although I have entered a competition (was meant to be last night but postponed due to the train strikes - thanks again, Tories) where the first prize is £150. So fingers crossed! | |
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| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 13:04 - Oct 5 with 2075 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 13:03 - Oct 5 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I enjoyed both your puns Glassers, then moved on and asked you a question about something else.
Also, I'm not a professional comedian. I haven't been paid for a single gig yet. Although I have entered a competition (was meant to be last night but postponed due to the train strikes - thanks again, Tories) where the first prize is £150. So fingers crossed! |
So you missed your chance to Ham it up on stage last night. | |
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| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 13:21 - Oct 5 with 2050 views | blueasfook |
| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 13:03 - Oct 5 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I enjoyed both your puns Glassers, then moved on and asked you a question about something else.
Also, I'm not a professional comedian. I haven't been paid for a single gig yet. Although I have entered a competition (was meant to be last night but postponed due to the train strikes - thanks again, Tories) where the first prize is £150. So fingers crossed! |
Can you post an example or two of your jokes please? | |
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| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 13:30 - Oct 5 with 2030 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 12:55 - Oct 5 by itfcjoe |
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I mean in his defence, I’m not sure why anybody would assume a Russian made nerve agent, used on Russian dissidents could have been Russia.
It was only polite to send them the sample and ask if they did it… |  | | |
| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 13:32 - Oct 5 with 2028 views | BlueBadger |
| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 12:55 - Oct 5 by itfcjoe |
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'Sure, this is totally an established MO of Russian security and SURE the poison can be traced to 15 miles out of Moscow, but I don't think we can blame this on Vlad'. |  |
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| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 14:26 - Oct 5 with 1971 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 13:21 - Oct 5 by blueasfook |
Can you post an example or two of your jokes please? |
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| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 14:33 - Oct 5 with 1954 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 14:26 - Oct 5 by The_Flashing_Smile |
No. |
Will you do your gigs in a Town shirt? |  |
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| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 14:45 - Oct 5 with 1932 views | blueasfook |
| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 14:26 - Oct 5 by The_Flashing_Smile |
No. |
Why not? We won't laugh | |
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| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 14:47 - Oct 5 with 1924 views | HankScorpio |
| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 14:45 - Oct 5 by blueasfook |
Why not? We won't laugh |
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| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 14:53 - Oct 5 with 1914 views | Darth_Koont |
| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 11:50 - Oct 5 by J2BLUE |
For the average UK resident, almost certainly not.
Russia has shown us how united NATO needs to be though and would imagine Ukraine would be in a much worse position if we elected Corbyn.
The UK has led the way on several key issues for Ukraine. They would not have our tanks or Storm Shadow missiles. Obviously the US has led the effort and i'm not claiming otherwise but the UK has been one of Ukraine's closest allies. I dread to think how it would be playing out with a divided NATO and Corbyn likely encouraging Ukraine to the negotiating table to give up territory. [Post edited 5 Oct 2023 11:53]
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You say that but I don’t think Corbyn would have been quite as understanding as our politicians in the West were re: the annexation of Crimea in 2014. What was different about that except people saw Putin as someone to woo/keep on the right side of?
And Corbyn is essentially right that a peaceful resolution will only come via negotiation — whether at the beginning, middle or end. And that’s the problem with these proxy wars: they are great for posturing and “defending freedom” but ultimately they often result in many more deaths and trauma over a longer period as the supporters of the war don’t have to fight and die themselves.
There are no easy answers but a challenge to a lot of these norms and self-interested sphere of influence stuff is certainly missing. |  |
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| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 15:08 - Oct 5 with 1890 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 14:53 - Oct 5 by Darth_Koont |
You say that but I don’t think Corbyn would have been quite as understanding as our politicians in the West were re: the annexation of Crimea in 2014. What was different about that except people saw Putin as someone to woo/keep on the right side of?
And Corbyn is essentially right that a peaceful resolution will only come via negotiation — whether at the beginning, middle or end. And that’s the problem with these proxy wars: they are great for posturing and “defending freedom” but ultimately they often result in many more deaths and trauma over a longer period as the supporters of the war don’t have to fight and die themselves.
There are no easy answers but a challenge to a lot of these norms and self-interested sphere of influence stuff is certainly missing. |
“proxy wars: they are great for posturing and “defending freedom”
Definition - a war instigated by a major power which does not itself become involved.
That’s a disgusting comment in my opinion- exactly the sort of narrative pushed by the Kremlin. It implies it’s a war instigated and fought on behalf of the west. It was an UNPROVOKED INVASION by Russia that has seen thousands of Ukrainians killed (not to mention those in the military)
Shame on you and your conspiracy theories. | | | |
| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 15:46 - Oct 5 with 1867 views | Darth_Koont |
| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 15:08 - Oct 5 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
“proxy wars: they are great for posturing and “defending freedom”
Definition - a war instigated by a major power which does not itself become involved.
That’s a disgusting comment in my opinion- exactly the sort of narrative pushed by the Kremlin. It implies it’s a war instigated and fought on behalf of the west. It was an UNPROVOKED INVASION by Russia that has seen thousands of Ukrainians killed (not to mention those in the military)
Shame on you and your conspiracy theories. |
Stop being ridiculous.
I didn’t say it was instigated by us. It has developed into a proxy war though.
And this Qanon/conspiracy theorist schtick is getting very tired. Ironically, if you could deal with what I write instead of whatever fantasy is floating around your brain then perhaps you wouldn’t get so agitated. | |
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| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 15:53 - Oct 5 with 1843 views | chicoazul |
| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 15:08 - Oct 5 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
“proxy wars: they are great for posturing and “defending freedom”
Definition - a war instigated by a major power which does not itself become involved.
That’s a disgusting comment in my opinion- exactly the sort of narrative pushed by the Kremlin. It implies it’s a war instigated and fought on behalf of the west. It was an UNPROVOKED INVASION by Russia that has seen thousands of Ukrainians killed (not to mention those in the military)
Shame on you and your conspiracy theories. |
Moronic. Of course it’s a proxy war as anyone with half a brain can see.
People always want everything boiled down to goodies v baddies. We live in such a childish age. |  |
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| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 16:10 - Oct 5 with 1801 views | DJR |
| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 12:35 - Oct 5 by BlueBadger |
And, like a large number of Tories, he was fond of occasionally turning out to defend Putin. Although unlike the Tories he appears to have been doing it for free. |
This is an alternative view on Corbyn being pro-Putin which is well worth reading in full.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/russia-ukraine-war-jeremy-corbyn-right-put
But whatever one's views on Corbyn, your point about the Tories is a good one, as evidenced by this extract from the article..
"Let’s imagine that Corbyn had somehow won the last election. That he had then filled up Labour Party coffers with Russian money; that his party chairman had an office in Moscow to advise oligarchs; that Corbyn personally had repeatedly visited a Russian oligarch whose father had been a KGB agent and close friend of Putin, and that he had been reported to have ignored security service objections to secure this friend a peerage, and funnelled government money towards his paper.
For day after day there would have been front-page denunciations of Corbyn. He couldn’t have survived. In my view rightly so. Yet Johnson is the one who’s done all of these things. But Corbyn is the one who’s supposed to be pro-Putin."
And don't forget this all happened after the Russian invasion of Crimea in 2014. [Post edited 5 Oct 2023 16:12]
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| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 16:11 - Oct 5 with 1780 views | jaykay |
mmm what idiot would tax meat ? next it will be labour are going to put a tax on energy . no party would be that stupid .oh wait |  |
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| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 16:16 - Oct 5 with 1770 views | giant_stow |
| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 15:53 - Oct 5 by chicoazul |
Moronic. Of course it’s a proxy war as anyone with half a brain can see.
People always want everything boiled down to goodies v baddies. We live in such a childish age. |
Your emphatic put own got me reading on whether this is a proxy war or not. It turns out that:
'... the question of whether the war in Ukraine is a proxy one is not only a Russian government propaganda claim: it’s but also a subject of genuine academic debate.'
https://www.kcl.ac.uk/is-the-war-in-ukraine-a-proxy-conflict
Some other good links:
https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2023-02-21-expert-comment-no-proxy-war-russia-really-i
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/04/18/russia-ukraine-war-u
I guess we'll have own opinions - for me, its a defensive war, instigated by Russia's invasion and only fought as long as Ukraine wants to continue doing so. Ukraine is being helped by the west but with strict rules about how those weapons can be used, so i wouldn't call it an attack on Russia so again not war by Proxy
Interesting how the claim that it might be a proxy war seems to largely be propagated by Putin and right wing Americans, like Trump and co. [Post edited 5 Oct 2023 16:17]
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| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 16:54 - Oct 5 with 1701 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 15:53 - Oct 5 by chicoazul |
Moronic. Of course it’s a proxy war as anyone with half a brain can see.
People always want everything boiled down to goodies v baddies. We live in such a childish age. |
It’s only moronic if you can’t read. I gave you the Oxford dictionary definition to help you out.
Given you don’t know the difference between left and right it’s no surprise you are confused. | | | |
| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 16:57 - Oct 5 with 1699 views | You_Bloo_Right |
| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 11:48 - Oct 5 by GavTWTD |
It sounds a very risky policy. I wouldn't brisket. |
Just putting a steak in the ground. |  |
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| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 17:52 - Oct 5 with 1636 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Booo, Keir Starmer's bringing in a meat tax, boooo on 16:54 - Oct 5 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
It’s only moronic if you can’t read. I gave you the Oxford dictionary definition to help you out.
Given you don’t know the difference between left and right it’s no surprise you are confused. |
Chico has worryingly aligned himself with several of Koonter's views recently. | |
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