| Great Players, good managers. 11:12 - Oct 30 with 3131 views | GeoffSentence |
Prompted by this line in an EADT article about Harness that ended up reflecting on our upcoming game with Brum
"Great players don’t make good managers. Fact. "
I was wondering is that true? Sweeping statements like that are often bollox and I reckon this might be one of them. Of course it depends on who you inlcude as a 'great players', Sir Alf and Sir Bob were both international players, but would you call them 'great players' for instance.
Anyhow, I reckon Johan Cruyff at least proves that statement to be guff. Undeniably a great player and has massive success as manager of Barca.
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| Great Players, good managers. on 11:14 - Oct 30 with 2451 views | nodge_blue |
Pep |  |
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| Great Players, good managers. on 11:16 - Oct 30 with 2434 views | tractorboy1978 |
Guardiola. |  | | |
| Great Players, good managers. on 11:19 - Oct 30 with 2418 views | GeoffSentence |
| Great Players, good managers. on 11:14 - Oct 30 by nodge_blue |
Pep |
Of course, played for Cruyff at Barca then went on on to better his record as manager. | |
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| Great Players, good managers. on 11:22 - Oct 30 with 2411 views | nodge_blue |
| Great Players, good managers. on 11:19 - Oct 30 by GeoffSentence |
Of course, played for Cruyff at Barca then went on on to better his record as manager. |
Hoddle maybe.
I do think most great players don't become great managers. Bryan Robson. Roy Keane. Steve Gerrard. Bobby Charlton. | |
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| Great Players, good managers. on 11:41 - Oct 30 with 2344 views | hoppy |
I guess that's why Jay Tabb hasn't gone into management... |  |
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| Great Players, good managers. on 11:47 - Oct 30 with 2296 views | Churchman |
| Great Players, good managers. on 11:41 - Oct 30 by hoppy |
I guess that's why Jay Tabb hasn't gone into management... |
Surely in Tabb’s case it’s a question of ‘do occasional tables make good managers?’
Clearly not. |  | | |
| Great Players, good managers. on 11:47 - Oct 30 with 2298 views | Mookamoo |
Ancelotti? |  | | |
| Great Players, good managers. on 11:48 - Oct 30 with 2282 views | Daninthecampo |
Dalglish did well with Liverpool and then Blackburn not to the level of Pep or Cruyff though | | | |
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| Great Players, good managers. on 11:49 - Oct 30 with 2265 views | PhilTWTD |
Dino Zoff. |  | | |
| Great Players, good managers. on 11:50 - Oct 30 with 2263 views | PhilTWTD |
Brian Clough was a very decent player before injury ended his career. | | | |
| Great Players, good managers. on 11:50 - Oct 30 with 2255 views | homer_123 |
| Great Players, good managers. on 11:41 - Oct 30 by hoppy |
I guess that's why Jay Tabb hasn't gone into management... |
This would be the type of football Tabby would deliver:
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| Great Players, good managers. on 11:50 - Oct 30 with 2246 views | homer_123 |
Paul Lam.... | |
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| Great Players, good managers. on 11:53 - Oct 30 with 2226 views | GeoffSentence |
| Great Players, good managers. on 11:41 - Oct 30 by hoppy |
I guess that's why Jay Tabb hasn't gone into management... |
Probably work out well for him. Management can be a bit of a roller coaster.
He probably doesn't make the minimum height requirement for it. | |
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| Great Players, good managers. on 11:55 - Oct 30 with 2210 views | LeoMuff |
Clough, Capello, Ferguson, Klinsmann |  |
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| Great Players, good managers. on 11:59 - Oct 30 with 2184 views | SmithersJones |
There’s a numbers thing at play here. At any given time there are lots more players than managers, and great managers usually have longer careers than great players. So although “great” is subjective, I suspect most of us would struggle to name as many great managers as we could great players. Ergo there’ll be loads of great players who don’t become great managers, just as there’ll be loads of rubbish players who don’t make great managers. | | | |
| Great Players, good managers. on 11:59 - Oct 30 with 2180 views | Churchman |
| Great Players, good managers. on 11:50 - Oct 30 by homer_123 |
This would be the type of football Tabby would deliver:
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Best home game we played under McCarthy. We were terrific that day and for Tabb to score with a header was an ‘I don’t believe it’ moment. Classic. | | | |
| Great Players, good managers. on 12:06 - Oct 30 with 2160 views | homer_123 |
No one has mentioned a certain England International named Robson as yet.
Not Bryan.... [Post edited 30 Oct 2023 12:07]
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| Great Players, good managers. on 12:07 - Oct 30 with 2146 views | Herbivore |
Ancelotti could play a bit, 20 odd caps for Italy. Zidane didn't do too badly for himself at Real Madrid either. |  |
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| Great Players, good managers. on 12:09 - Oct 30 with 2138 views | _clive_baker_ |
Hard to say as historically great players have always been able to get a shot at management fairly easily should they wish, so some of them are bound to do alright. Keane, Rooney, Gerrard, Lampard, Shearer, Ince. Countless others, whereas the McKenna's of the world generally need to earn their stripes and prove themselves a little more. |  | | |
| Great Players, good managers. on 12:31 - Oct 30 with 2052 views | Wacko |
| Great Players, good managers. on 11:19 - Oct 30 by GeoffSentence |
Of course, played for Cruyff at Barca then went on on to better his record as manager. |
But also got banned for doping… | |
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| Great Players, good managers. on 12:32 - Oct 30 with 2047 views | PhilTWTD |
| Great Players, good managers. on 12:06 - Oct 30 by homer_123 |
No one has mentioned a certain England International named Robson as yet.
Not Bryan.... [Post edited 30 Oct 2023 12:07]
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Sir Alf was pretty decent as well! | | | |
| Great Players, good managers. on 12:36 - Oct 30 with 1994 views | DanTheMan |
Zagallo, won the World Cup as both a player and manager.
Depending on your definition of great, Mancini and Simeone as well.
Another one, Deschamps as well. [Post edited 30 Oct 2023 12:41]
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| Great Players, good managers. on 12:38 - Oct 30 with 1973 views | TractorCam |
| Great Players, good managers. on 12:32 - Oct 30 by PhilTWTD |
Sir Alf was pretty decent as well! |
Both mentioned in the OP. |  |
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| Great Players, good managers. on 12:41 - Oct 30 with 1929 views | TractorCam |
| Great Players, good managers. on 11:22 - Oct 30 by nodge_blue |
Hoddle maybe.
I do think most great players don't become great managers. Bryan Robson. Roy Keane. Steve Gerrard. Bobby Charlton. |
Lampard, Hasselbaink. | |
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| Great Players, good managers. on 12:43 - Oct 30 with 1902 views | DanTheMan |
| Great Players, good managers. on 12:41 - Oct 30 by TractorCam |
Lampard, Hasselbaink. |
Paul Ince, Gary Neville. | |
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