| Toxic lefty-ism 18:13 - Nov 26 with 20834 views | NeedhamChris |
Really starting to find a number of people whose views I should align with (both on here and offline) to be quite alienating.
When it comes to people on here who are more openly left wing vs those that are right wing - the majority of the abuse, snobbery and entrenchment in views seems to come from this group. This doesn't seem to match up with the virtues that are supposedly at the centre of their politics. Whereas whilst I often disagree with some of what I read from the likes of GB and Lowhouse, their arguments are politely put forward and explained rationally and are a much more enjoyable conversation than those that I would agree with.
Why is this? I find it to be quite unedifying and the more I see of it - the more I feel like the left isn't for me. If I (as a Green party member) find it unappealing, where does that leave those minds we're supposed to be trying to change? |  |
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| Toxic lefty-ism on 08:33 - Nov 27 with 2056 views | Ryorry |
| Toxic lefty-ism on 07:44 - Nov 27 by noggin |
Seriously though, look at the state of that list of up voters. |
So you think it’s fine to mock people because they dislike abuse, but you also think it’s fine that your ‘side’ has to drag out alt accounts to ‘win’ the vote.
Not neat thinking Nogs. |  |
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| Toxic lefty-ism on 08:36 - Nov 27 with 2026 views | leitrimblue |
| Toxic lefty-ism on 19:21 - Nov 26 by lowhouseblue |
solidly of the wilsonite, callaghanite, kinnockite, smithite, blairite, brownite, milibandite, and starmerite left me. and i have a card to prove it. |
Exactly, a Labour voting lefty, thus disapproving the OP point about you being an example of the polite right. |  | | |
| Toxic lefty-ism on 08:36 - Nov 27 with 2033 views | noggin |
| Toxic lefty-ism on 08:33 - Nov 27 by Ryorry |
So you think it’s fine to mock people because they dislike abuse, but you also think it’s fine that your ‘side’ has to drag out alt accounts to ‘win’ the vote.
Not neat thinking Nogs. |
I haven't seen said abuse but I'm sure when it's reported, it will be dealt with. A post headed "Toxic lefty-ism" is hardly one looking for sensible debate though. |  |
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| It's quite telling that..... on 08:42 - Nov 27 with 1992 views | leitrimblue |
| It's quite telling that..... on 19:35 - Nov 26 by Mullet |
That's only cos the memorable racists from here could fit in a taxi innit. |
And because every couple of weeks their mask slips and they get banned for spouting some racist nonsense, get banned and reinvent themselves with a new user name | | | |
| Toxic lefty-ism on 08:44 - Nov 27 with 1976 views | NthQldITFC |
The whole left/right thing is just the most utterly ridiculous tribal, egocentric nonsense anyway. We subscribe others or ourselves exclusively to one of those camps for all issues and then raise our muskets and start banging away at them others who are completely wrong about everything. What a childish, moronic, imbecilic, irresponsible way of going about dealing with a nuanced spectrum of issues - it's like we think everything is black or white.
Left or right, black or white, for or against, can surely only apply to the most granular of distilled aspects of particular issues, yet we try to apply them not only to all issues but to complex people with complex interests and evolving views!
What it all comes down to is whether you are able to quietly challenge yourself and accept that you should always keep a little bit of your mind open to being 'wrong' on any subject (any decent scientist will tell you that). Carry that openness into your interactions with other people whether or not they do the same, and recognise that the moment you start to live entrenched in your ego you are building what you think is a hard defensive shell of fixed ideas and deceit. What you are actually investing in is a brittle thing which obscures your view of reality and, when inevitably cracked, leaves your soft little ego exposed and confused.
Vive la différence. |  |
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| Toxic lefty-ism on 08:49 - Nov 27 with 1947 views | Ryorry |
| Toxic lefty-ism on 08:36 - Nov 27 by noggin |
I haven't seen said abuse but I'm sure when it's reported, it will be dealt with. A post headed "Toxic lefty-ism" is hardly one looking for sensible debate though. |
Calling out the upvoters in the manner and tone that you did was belittling and uncalled for. Not sure if the OP is online atm, but he might regard that as an example of his general point. | |
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| Toxic lefty-ism on 08:52 - Nov 27 with 1922 views | GeoffSentence |
The obnoxious people on the right of the political spectrum tend to get kicked off here pretty quick as they get really obnoxious. |  |
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| Toxic lefty-ism on 08:56 - Nov 27 with 1884 views | noggin |
| Toxic lefty-ism on 08:49 - Nov 27 by Ryorry |
Calling out the upvoters in the manner and tone that you did was belittling and uncalled for. Not sure if the OP is online atm, but he might regard that as an example of his general point. |
You clearly didn't get 'the tone' of my post then. It was very much tongue in cheek. Again, I haven't seen the abuse that the op and you are talking about. | |
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| lol. (n/t) on 08:58 - Nov 27 with 1851 views | Bloots |
| Toxic lefty-ism on 08:56 - Nov 27 by noggin |
You clearly didn't get 'the tone' of my post then. It was very much tongue in cheek. Again, I haven't seen the abuse that the op and you are talking about. |
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| lol. (n/t) on 08:59 - Nov 27 with 1841 views | noggin |
| lol. (n/t) on 08:58 - Nov 27 by Bloots |
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See, even bloots laughed. | |
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| “I was only joking guv, honest!” (n/t) on 09:02 - Nov 27 with 1812 views | Bloots |
| lol. (n/t) on 08:59 - Nov 27 by noggin |
See, even bloots laughed. |
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| I think you’re getting…. on 09:04 - Nov 27 with 1798 views | Bloots |
| It's quite telling that..... on 08:42 - Nov 27 by leitrimblue |
And because every couple of weeks their mask slips and they get banned for spouting some racist nonsense, get banned and reinvent themselves with a new user name |
….your left and right mixed up there.
I bet you’re crap at giving directions! | |
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| “I was only joking guv, honest!” (n/t) on 09:06 - Nov 27 with 1770 views | noggin |
| “I was only joking guv, honest!” (n/t) on 09:02 - Nov 27 by Bloots |
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Sorry if my comment left you feeling belittled bloots. | |
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| I think you’re getting…. on 09:16 - Nov 27 with 1705 views | leitrimblue |
| I think you’re getting…. on 09:04 - Nov 27 by Bloots |
….your left and right mixed up there.
I bet you’re crap at giving directions! |
Really? You probably didn't see it. But the poster spouting racist nonsense and supporting the far right in Dublin a few days ago was clearly not from the 'left'? | | | |
| I see far more of…. on 09:23 - Nov 27 with 1682 views | Bloots |
| I think you’re getting…. on 09:16 - Nov 27 by leitrimblue |
Really? You probably didn't see it. But the poster spouting racist nonsense and supporting the far right in Dublin a few days ago was clearly not from the 'left'? |
….the now outlawed LBF setting up new accounts on here just to abuse other posters than I do any other group.
There’s 4 or 5 of their accounts just on this thread dishing out the downvotes.
Two of them reappeared a couple of weeks back and (as you say) their masks slipped and they went back to their old ways.
People seem to be forgetting that this thread was about posters being toxic towards each other, rather than having specific toxic views. | |
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| Toxic lefty-ism on 09:24 - Nov 27 with 1683 views | nodge_blue |
wow that's quite a voting list gathering here.Its like a general election. im sitting on the fence at the risk of being called a centrist dad.
Centrist dads rock. |  |
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| I doubt there’s more than…. on 09:29 - Nov 27 with 1646 views | Bloots |
| Toxic lefty-ism on 09:24 - Nov 27 by nodge_blue |
wow that's quite a voting list gathering here.Its like a general election. im sitting on the fence at the risk of being called a centrist dad.
Centrist dads rock. |
….3 or 4 of the upvoters that would vote Tory, if there is then they need sectioning!
I upvoted it because he’s right about where the toxicity on this forum comes from rather than anything else.
I’m comfortable sitting in your CD chair too, glad to be here. | |
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| I see far more of…. on 09:34 - Nov 27 with 1617 views | Darth_Koont |
| I see far more of…. on 09:23 - Nov 27 by Bloots |
….the now outlawed LBF setting up new accounts on here just to abuse other posters than I do any other group.
There’s 4 or 5 of their accounts just on this thread dishing out the downvotes.
Two of them reappeared a couple of weeks back and (as you say) their masks slipped and they went back to their old ways.
People seem to be forgetting that this thread was about posters being toxic towards each other, rather than having specific toxic views. |
Wow.
Your “political” interactions are overwhelmingly negative and attacking other posters. And you rarely if ever have anything to say about the actual subject.
Unfortunately, I think a few too many of you think dismissing or policing others and their views is what politics is all about. [Post edited 27 Nov 2023 9:35]
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| I doubt there’s more than…. on 09:35 - Nov 27 with 1614 views | nodge_blue |
| I doubt there’s more than…. on 09:29 - Nov 27 by Bloots |
….3 or 4 of the upvoters that would vote Tory, if there is then they need sectioning!
I upvoted it because he’s right about where the toxicity on this forum comes from rather than anything else.
I’m comfortable sitting in your CD chair too, glad to be here. |
The up and down voting is at the core of what's wrong with society. Forget global warming.
It's all binary choices and red rags to the bulls. Lets go......
What we need is nuance and empathy to other sides.
Centrist dads for all. | |
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| I see far more of…. on 09:36 - Nov 27 with 1609 views | Ryorry |
| I see far more of…. on 09:23 - Nov 27 by Bloots |
….the now outlawed LBF setting up new accounts on here just to abuse other posters than I do any other group.
There’s 4 or 5 of their accounts just on this thread dishing out the downvotes.
Two of them reappeared a couple of weeks back and (as you say) their masks slipped and they went back to their old ways.
People seem to be forgetting that this thread was about posters being toxic towards each other, rather than having specific toxic views. |
LBF - London Book Fair stallholders? Lazy Blue Featherlights? Loadsa Bonkers Fans? 🤔 | |
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| QED (n/t) on 09:38 - Nov 27 with 1595 views | Bloots |
| I see far more of…. on 09:34 - Nov 27 by Darth_Koont |
Wow.
Your “political” interactions are overwhelmingly negative and attacking other posters. And you rarely if ever have anything to say about the actual subject.
Unfortunately, I think a few too many of you think dismissing or policing others and their views is what politics is all about. [Post edited 27 Nov 2023 9:35]
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| Lady Bottoms Forever. (n/t) on 09:39 - Nov 27 with 1593 views | Bloots |
| I see far more of…. on 09:36 - Nov 27 by Ryorry |
LBF - London Book Fair stallholders? Lazy Blue Featherlights? Loadsa Bonkers Fans? 🤔 |
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| I doubt there’s more than…. on 09:40 - Nov 27 with 1588 views | nodge_blue |
| I doubt there’s more than…. on 09:35 - Nov 27 by nodge_blue |
The up and down voting is at the core of what's wrong with society. Forget global warming.
It's all binary choices and red rags to the bulls. Lets go......
What we need is nuance and empathy to other sides.
Centrist dads for all. |
Your up vote slightly missed my point lol. | |
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| Or did it? (n/t) on 09:41 - Nov 27 with 1800 views | Bloots |
| I doubt there’s more than…. on 09:40 - Nov 27 by nodge_blue |
Your up vote slightly missed my point lol. |
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| Toxic lefty-ism on 09:41 - Nov 27 with 2161 views | blueasfook |
| Toxic lefty-ism on 22:30 - Nov 26 by GlasgowBlue |
Bit late to this one as I’m just back from my veggie lefty meal of Roast cauliflower and butternut squash, sticky coconut rice, spiced Thai butternut squash sauce. But funny to see [redacted] has re-activated Lord Snooty, Rosa Luxembourg, Triggs and Wat Tyler in order to boost the down votes.
Rather than re releasing his greatest hits , he’s giving us his deep cuts from 2012.
Abuse button expected in 5,4,3,2,1 [Post edited 27 Nov 2023 7:42]
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Years ago, that weirdo was going on WOTB pretending to be me. |  |
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