| I have to say 11:27 - May 23 with 17070 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
The longer this goes on with no approach, the more I start to think that he’ll stay.
If Brighton, or for that matter Chelsea had any inkling that he would accept, then the longer we go without any offer the less likely that becomes.
The fly in the ointment is Man U are lining him up on SAFs recommendation. |  |
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| I have to say on 11:29 - May 23 with 8500 views | gordon |
My guess is that he'll be Chelsea manager by the end of tomorrow. |  | | |
| I have to say on 11:32 - May 23 with 8410 views | boroughblue |
I’ll be honest, I’ve kind of lost interest and bored of it now.
A couple of days ago I was frantically checking twitter and this board every chance I got, but now I’m hardly checking (I know this post doesn’t help my point) and kind of just want to be told when something concrete happens either way.
I’m not blaming anyone for it, the fans concern is completely understandable as I was very nervous a couple of days ago, and I don’t think Mckennas comments were very down the middle and exactly what we expect and I think in my humble opinion people are reading way too much into his comments.
Think we need to accept this will go on for a while and wait for concrete facts, I’m actually starting to weirdly enjoy being talked about next to such big clubs, in a strange way we would have killed for this when we were in league 1! |  | | |
| I have to say on 11:36 - May 23 with 8310 views | Herbivore |
| I have to say on 11:29 - May 23 by gordon |
My guess is that he'll be Chelsea manager by the end of tomorrow. |
Really? I can't see it personally, don't think it's a good fit for him at all. I also think it's too early for Man U and that they'll end up with Poch. Brighton is the one I've been more concerned about but the longer it goes without anything concrete happening the more I feel it's likely he will stay. |  |
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| I have to say on 11:39 - May 23 with 8245 views | leitrimblue |
| I have to say on 11:29 - May 23 by gordon |
My guess is that he'll be Chelsea manager by the end of tomorrow. |
He's going nowhere |  | | |
| I have to say on 11:42 - May 23 with 8168 views | textbackup |
| I have to say on 11:29 - May 23 by gordon |
My guess is that he'll be Chelsea manager by the end of tomorrow. |
I really hope he’s not, I don’t want to lose the respect and love I have for him |  |
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| I have to say on 11:46 - May 23 with 8121 views | Pencilpete |
I think hes stalling everyone because he actually covets the Man Utd job and won't know if thats available or if he is even in line for it until early next week.
Then he'll look at Chelsea and i think staying here is his 3rd choice.
i don't think McKenna owes us anything he's done an unbelieveable job and i think most of us although gutted wouldn't hold it against him if he went .... BUT .... there is a way to do it and all this speculation (wether he stays or goes) isn't fair on us as a club because we can't prepare for the Premier League on the pitch while we are in limbo over who is going to be our manager - theres no point Ashton persuing or signing McKennas targets if Mckenna then disappers into the sunset and any potential new manager would take time to firstly appoint and then assess the squad and identify targets
Everyone generally accepts the play off winners are playing catch up because they are a month behind the other 2 promoted clubs .... Play off final is this weekend and we've done nothing so far ..... | | | |
| I have to say on 11:50 - May 23 with 8027 views | StokieBlue |
| I have to say on 11:46 - May 23 by Pencilpete |
I think hes stalling everyone because he actually covets the Man Utd job and won't know if thats available or if he is even in line for it until early next week.
Then he'll look at Chelsea and i think staying here is his 3rd choice.
i don't think McKenna owes us anything he's done an unbelieveable job and i think most of us although gutted wouldn't hold it against him if he went .... BUT .... there is a way to do it and all this speculation (wether he stays or goes) isn't fair on us as a club because we can't prepare for the Premier League on the pitch while we are in limbo over who is going to be our manager - theres no point Ashton persuing or signing McKennas targets if Mckenna then disappers into the sunset and any potential new manager would take time to firstly appoint and then assess the squad and identify targets
Everyone generally accepts the play off winners are playing catch up because they are a month behind the other 2 promoted clubs .... Play off final is this weekend and we've done nothing so far ..... |
"Everyone generally accepts the play off winners are playing catch up because they are a month behind the other 2 promoted clubs .... Play off final is this weekend and we've done nothing so far ....."
Everyone generally accepts this? I've not heard it before to be honest and surely at the moment most players are on their holidays and the transfer market doesn't open until the 14th June.
We just have to wait and see what happens over the next two weeks.
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| I have to say on 11:53 - May 23 with 7923 views | Guthrum |
| I have to say on 11:46 - May 23 by Pencilpete |
I think hes stalling everyone because he actually covets the Man Utd job and won't know if thats available or if he is even in line for it until early next week.
Then he'll look at Chelsea and i think staying here is his 3rd choice.
i don't think McKenna owes us anything he's done an unbelieveable job and i think most of us although gutted wouldn't hold it against him if he went .... BUT .... there is a way to do it and all this speculation (wether he stays or goes) isn't fair on us as a club because we can't prepare for the Premier League on the pitch while we are in limbo over who is going to be our manager - theres no point Ashton persuing or signing McKennas targets if Mckenna then disappers into the sunset and any potential new manager would take time to firstly appoint and then assess the squad and identify targets
Everyone generally accepts the play off winners are playing catch up because they are a month behind the other 2 promoted clubs .... Play off final is this weekend and we've done nothing so far ..... |
I really doubt we've been doing nothing. Indeed, I expect we started before promotion was even confirmed. It's all preparatory work at the moment, anyway, as the window doesn't open for three weeks. Plus the players we'll be after are all going to be of a quality and type to play in a McKenna-style system.
Should he leave, we'd be mad to go for a replacement who plays a completely different way.
Wonder if we can offer De Zerbi the position. Similar style and analysis-heavy approach, but the transfer freedom he hasn't had at Brighton. Plus, by some accounts, possibly a better salary than he was on previously. |  |
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| I have to say on 11:54 - May 23 with 7896 views | textbackup |
| I have to say on 11:50 - May 23 by StokieBlue |
"Everyone generally accepts the play off winners are playing catch up because they are a month behind the other 2 promoted clubs .... Play off final is this weekend and we've done nothing so far ....."
Everyone generally accepts this? I've not heard it before to be honest and surely at the moment most players are on their holidays and the transfer market doesn't open until the 14th June.
We just have to wait and see what happens over the next two weeks.
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How have you never heard that statement?
I remember back in 99/00 sheepshanks saying we were playing catch up on those clubs that went up in the top 2…
And read/heard it every year since with various other teams. Including us, last season. | |
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| I have to say on 11:54 - May 23 with 7880 views | NedPlimpton |
| I have to say on 11:46 - May 23 by Pencilpete |
I think hes stalling everyone because he actually covets the Man Utd job and won't know if thats available or if he is even in line for it until early next week.
Then he'll look at Chelsea and i think staying here is his 3rd choice.
i don't think McKenna owes us anything he's done an unbelieveable job and i think most of us although gutted wouldn't hold it against him if he went .... BUT .... there is a way to do it and all this speculation (wether he stays or goes) isn't fair on us as a club because we can't prepare for the Premier League on the pitch while we are in limbo over who is going to be our manager - theres no point Ashton persuing or signing McKennas targets if Mckenna then disappers into the sunset and any potential new manager would take time to firstly appoint and then assess the squad and identify targets
Everyone generally accepts the play off winners are playing catch up because they are a month behind the other 2 promoted clubs .... Play off final is this weekend and we've done nothing so far ..... |
Is this an early moan for not having all of our signings done by the time the window opens? |  | | |
| I have to say on 11:55 - May 23 with 7862 views | Pencilpete |
| I have to say on 11:53 - May 23 by Guthrum |
I really doubt we've been doing nothing. Indeed, I expect we started before promotion was even confirmed. It's all preparatory work at the moment, anyway, as the window doesn't open for three weeks. Plus the players we'll be after are all going to be of a quality and type to play in a McKenna-style system.
Should he leave, we'd be mad to go for a replacement who plays a completely different way.
Wonder if we can offer De Zerbi the position. Similar style and analysis-heavy approach, but the transfer freedom he hasn't had at Brighton. Plus, by some accounts, possibly a better salary than he was on previously. |
The only manager i've seen us linked with is Rob Edwards and whilst I like his personality and enthusiasm .... he got found out tactically ALOT this season | | | |
| I have to say on 11:59 - May 23 with 7795 views | SmithersJones |
| I have to say on 11:46 - May 23 by Pencilpete |
I think hes stalling everyone because he actually covets the Man Utd job and won't know if thats available or if he is even in line for it until early next week.
Then he'll look at Chelsea and i think staying here is his 3rd choice.
i don't think McKenna owes us anything he's done an unbelieveable job and i think most of us although gutted wouldn't hold it against him if he went .... BUT .... there is a way to do it and all this speculation (wether he stays or goes) isn't fair on us as a club because we can't prepare for the Premier League on the pitch while we are in limbo over who is going to be our manager - theres no point Ashton persuing or signing McKennas targets if Mckenna then disappers into the sunset and any potential new manager would take time to firstly appoint and then assess the squad and identify targets
Everyone generally accepts the play off winners are playing catch up because they are a month behind the other 2 promoted clubs .... Play off final is this weekend and we've done nothing so far ..... |
I tend to agree with your opening statement.
While the rumour mill has been rumbling for a while I think the last week has thrown several spanners in the works.
Firstly, until Saturday there were no vacancies, so it was easy for all parties to not comment on jobs that weren’t vacant. Similarly there was no real need for KMc publicly committing to Ipswich. De Zerbi resigning changed all that, as well as Brighton’s very public desire to recruit him.
Then Poch resigned. Suddenly not only was there another job in the mix but, maybe more importantly, an unexpected candidate for any vacancy at Man Utd. It’s very possible that KMc was getting positive noises from Old Trafford prior to that and now things are less clear cut.
And finally the offer of a new contract at Ipswich (and the attendant publicity that has gone with it) forces KMc to abandon his “no decision to make” stance about Ipswich. | | | |
| I have to say on 11:59 - May 23 with 7781 views | ReusersTown |
| I have to say on 11:46 - May 23 by Pencilpete |
I think hes stalling everyone because he actually covets the Man Utd job and won't know if thats available or if he is even in line for it until early next week.
Then he'll look at Chelsea and i think staying here is his 3rd choice.
i don't think McKenna owes us anything he's done an unbelieveable job and i think most of us although gutted wouldn't hold it against him if he went .... BUT .... there is a way to do it and all this speculation (wether he stays or goes) isn't fair on us as a club because we can't prepare for the Premier League on the pitch while we are in limbo over who is going to be our manager - theres no point Ashton persuing or signing McKennas targets if Mckenna then disappers into the sunset and any potential new manager would take time to firstly appoint and then assess the squad and identify targets
Everyone generally accepts the play off winners are playing catch up because they are a month behind the other 2 promoted clubs .... Play off final is this weekend and we've done nothing so far ..... |
We're owed to be treated with respect! which his agent or whatever source is responsible is not doing. A lot of you are talking like this has been a completely one way relationship. We gave Kieran his big break and have been entirely supportive from top to bottom as a club. Understand that it has been mostly plain sailing though so far in the journey but he does need to get a grip of whatever is going on. It has got to the point where the speculation is damaging the club and the fact that nobody has spoken out, either Ashton or otherwise does make me think it's probably over. Even though I wasn't one of those crying out for a statement previously. It's so widespread now the lack of comment is damning. Personally I'm of the opinion of those thinking he's waiting for Man Utd, the other two don't really make sense. | | | |
| I have to say on 12:01 - May 23 with 7737 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| I have to say on 11:53 - May 23 by Guthrum |
I really doubt we've been doing nothing. Indeed, I expect we started before promotion was even confirmed. It's all preparatory work at the moment, anyway, as the window doesn't open for three weeks. Plus the players we'll be after are all going to be of a quality and type to play in a McKenna-style system.
Should he leave, we'd be mad to go for a replacement who plays a completely different way.
Wonder if we can offer De Zerbi the position. Similar style and analysis-heavy approach, but the transfer freedom he hasn't had at Brighton. Plus, by some accounts, possibly a better salary than he was on previously. |
Brighton getting rid of De Zerbi because they were convinced they’d get McKenna only to see him go to Man U and De Zerbi coming here would be pretty funny. | |
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| I have to say on 12:02 - May 23 with 7724 views | Guthrum |
| I have to say on 11:55 - May 23 by Pencilpete |
The only manager i've seen us linked with is Rob Edwards and whilst I like his personality and enthusiasm .... he got found out tactically ALOT this season |
But his team did make a bit a fight of it. Lots of one-goal loss margins in there.
In any case, we don't have a vacancy at the moment and don't conduct our business as publicly as some other clubs. | |
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| I have to say on 12:06 - May 23 with 7642 views | PimsNumber1 |
| I have to say on 11:46 - May 23 by Pencilpete |
I think hes stalling everyone because he actually covets the Man Utd job and won't know if thats available or if he is even in line for it until early next week.
Then he'll look at Chelsea and i think staying here is his 3rd choice.
i don't think McKenna owes us anything he's done an unbelieveable job and i think most of us although gutted wouldn't hold it against him if he went .... BUT .... there is a way to do it and all this speculation (wether he stays or goes) isn't fair on us as a club because we can't prepare for the Premier League on the pitch while we are in limbo over who is going to be our manager - theres no point Ashton persuing or signing McKennas targets if Mckenna then disappers into the sunset and any potential new manager would take time to firstly appoint and then assess the squad and identify targets
Everyone generally accepts the play off winners are playing catch up because they are a month behind the other 2 promoted clubs .... Play off final is this weekend and we've done nothing so far ..... |
Spot on |  | | |
| I have to say on 12:11 - May 23 with 7573 views | StokieBlue |
| I have to say on 11:54 - May 23 by textbackup |
How have you never heard that statement?
I remember back in 99/00 sheepshanks saying we were playing catch up on those clubs that went up in the top 2…
And read/heard it every year since with various other teams. Including us, last season. |
Genuinely don't remember hearing it.
Seems like an excuse though, really not much can be done on the training or transfer front at the moment. Another week or two to get this sorted isn't going to be the destruction of our season.
It's not like you can't plan before the play-off final with two sets of outcomes.
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| I have to say on 12:12 - May 23 with 7555 views | itfcjoe |
| I have to say on 11:46 - May 23 by Pencilpete |
I think hes stalling everyone because he actually covets the Man Utd job and won't know if thats available or if he is even in line for it until early next week.
Then he'll look at Chelsea and i think staying here is his 3rd choice.
i don't think McKenna owes us anything he's done an unbelieveable job and i think most of us although gutted wouldn't hold it against him if he went .... BUT .... there is a way to do it and all this speculation (wether he stays or goes) isn't fair on us as a club because we can't prepare for the Premier League on the pitch while we are in limbo over who is going to be our manager - theres no point Ashton persuing or signing McKennas targets if Mckenna then disappers into the sunset and any potential new manager would take time to firstly appoint and then assess the squad and identify targets
Everyone generally accepts the play off winners are playing catch up because they are a month behind the other 2 promoted clubs .... Play off final is this weekend and we've done nothing so far ..... |
I agree with most of that, but just not sure we'd have done nothing to prep - part of the prep is all the facilities work that is being done and occupies bandwidth with regards to executive time.
But think it's right re Man U - Chelsea - Us |  |
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| I have to say on 12:12 - May 23 with 7519 views | Steve_M |
| I have to say on 12:11 - May 23 by StokieBlue |
Genuinely don't remember hearing it.
Seems like an excuse though, really not much can be done on the training or transfer front at the moment. Another week or two to get this sorted isn't going to be the destruction of our season.
It's not like you can't plan before the play-off final with two sets of outcomes.
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It is fairly common although I think much of it is the planning side, not knowing how much we would need to spend on infrastructure or which pool of players we would be looking to sign from. |  |
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| I have to say on 12:14 - May 23 with 7462 views | StokieBlue |
| I have to say on 12:12 - May 23 by Steve_M |
It is fairly common although I think much of it is the planning side, not knowing how much we would need to spend on infrastructure or which pool of players we would be looking to sign from. |
But we know all that at the moment so those things shouldn't be held up?
Only thing is perhaps the exact players McKenna would like but even then we can't approach for another 3 weeks really.
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| I have to say on 12:15 - May 23 with 7406 views | JimmyJazz |
| I have to say on 12:12 - May 23 by Steve_M |
It is fairly common although I think much of it is the planning side, not knowing how much we would need to spend on infrastructure or which pool of players we would be looking to sign from. |
Haven't Rotherham already got three deals in place ahead of the window opening. |  |
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| I have to say on 12:16 - May 23 with 7423 views | PhilTWTD |
| I have to say on 11:46 - May 23 by Pencilpete |
I think hes stalling everyone because he actually covets the Man Utd job and won't know if thats available or if he is even in line for it until early next week.
Then he'll look at Chelsea and i think staying here is his 3rd choice.
i don't think McKenna owes us anything he's done an unbelieveable job and i think most of us although gutted wouldn't hold it against him if he went .... BUT .... there is a way to do it and all this speculation (wether he stays or goes) isn't fair on us as a club because we can't prepare for the Premier League on the pitch while we are in limbo over who is going to be our manager - theres no point Ashton persuing or signing McKennas targets if Mckenna then disappers into the sunset and any potential new manager would take time to firstly appoint and then assess the squad and identify targets
Everyone generally accepts the play off winners are playing catch up because they are a month behind the other 2 promoted clubs .... Play off final is this weekend and we've done nothing so far ..... |
Not so sure that's quite the case. It would be difficult to turn down Man U full stop, but Chelsea he may look at the chaos there and think it's not for him, that it would be the big club he wants but one where he might not last five minutes and then not get the same chance somewhere else again. But he may believe things won't be quite so chaotic as they have been, of course. They, of course, may not make an offer. |  | | |
| I have to say on 12:17 - May 23 with 7347 views | textbackup |
| I have to say on 12:11 - May 23 by StokieBlue |
Genuinely don't remember hearing it.
Seems like an excuse though, really not much can be done on the training or transfer front at the moment. Another week or two to get this sorted isn't going to be the destruction of our season.
It's not like you can't plan before the play-off final with two sets of outcomes.
SB |
Of course two sets of budgets and plans can be drawn up.
Just assumed everyone felt the same that you’d be slightly ahead of the game if you went up automatically.
I’m sure some deals are done/could be done if a player is away on holiday.
But anyway, non of that matters really, as we’ve no idea who the manager will be to make those signings | |
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| I have to say on 12:21 - May 23 with 7254 views | ITFCBlues |
| I have to say on 12:16 - May 23 by PhilTWTD |
Not so sure that's quite the case. It would be difficult to turn down Man U full stop, but Chelsea he may look at the chaos there and think it's not for him, that it would be the big club he wants but one where he might not last five minutes and then not get the same chance somewhere else again. But he may believe things won't be quite so chaotic as they have been, of course. They, of course, may not make an offer. |
Are you privy to any further info since your article last night, Phil?
Seems to have taken a step back today from the new article every hour that we were getting yesterday. |  |
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| I have to say on 12:22 - May 23 with 7182 views | GlasgowBlue |
| I have to say on 11:50 - May 23 by StokieBlue |
"Everyone generally accepts the play off winners are playing catch up because they are a month behind the other 2 promoted clubs .... Play off final is this weekend and we've done nothing so far ....."
Everyone generally accepts this? I've not heard it before to be honest and surely at the moment most players are on their holidays and the transfer market doesn't open until the 14th June.
We just have to wait and see what happens over the next two weeks.
SB |
That statement has been used in and around football since the play offs started. Ashton used it himself during his interview with Stuart Watson.
As of Monday 5 May the club started preparing for the following season knowing that we were in the Premier League. Three weeks later, Leeds and Southampton don't even know whether they are going to offload half their squad in order to prepare fore another season in the Championship or start looking to strengthen what they have for the season in the Premier League.
I'm amazed you have never heard that phrase before as a football fan. |  |
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