| Sneaky suspicion about Omari 09:37 - May 31 with 6646 views | wkj |
Win or lose, I am thinking that his future will be made clear very soon. It is widely reported that his contract and that Chelsea owe a staggering amount of money on transfer fees (although ~£800m is said to be owed, that is over many seasons)
The timing of his renewal is no coincidence either as Chelsea will inevitably be keen to do their outgoings early so they have a good idea on what the can, or can't, spend with yet another new manager coming into the fray.
I think all signs are pointing towards Omari's future home being known quite soon, and the question is - is £20m the price tag and do we rate him at that?
This is all speculative of course, but I can't help but think that all signs are pointing toward sooner rather than later. |  |
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| Sneaky suspicion about Omari on 09:39 - May 31 with 4971 views | belgablue |
In and around £15m with add-ons, think we'll get him. |  |
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| Sneaky suspicion about Omari on 09:40 - May 31 with 4931 views | JammyDodgerrr |
They will 100% sell him, it's whether we can/are prepared to meet him. He is pure profit against PSR for them so they will take advantage of that, same way they have done with many other players. |  |
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| Sneaky suspicion about Omari on 09:42 - May 31 with 4893 views | CaptainAhab |
The timing is surely likely to play into our hands, we're the ones who are likely to be ready to go and make things happen quickly with him. What a signing he would be. |  | | |
| Sneaky suspicion about Omari on 09:43 - May 31 with 4893 views | _clive_baker_ |
Yeah I think the extension is a moot point, that’s expected as the protect the value of him. Same reason we might see similar of an El-Mizouni / Ahadme type in time.
The numbers involved are staggering really and take some getting used to, but £15m for a young talent like that is probably the going rate and there’s every evidence to suggest he’s at least a top championship player, realistically a premier league player in the making. KM has had him for a year now, he knows what he’s getting character and ability wise and that in itself de-risks it massively. The benefit of McKenna having been at United is he knows what premier league quality needs to look like, and clearly has the confidence that Hutchinson has that or at least has the potential. Would be an incredible signing if we can do it. |  | | |
| Sneaky suspicion about Omari on 09:43 - May 31 with 4884 views | Dennyx4 |
| Sneaky suspicion about Omari on 09:40 - May 31 by JammyDodgerrr |
They will 100% sell him, it's whether we can/are prepared to meet him. He is pure profit against PSR for them so they will take advantage of that, same way they have done with many other players. |
Is it pure profit? Didn’t Chelsea buy him from Arsenal for £3m.
Not sure how that works on PSR? |  | | |
| Sneaky suspicion about Omari on 09:53 - May 31 with 4741 views | berkstractorboy |
Chelsea not got long, like all clubs deadline on PSR balancing is 30th June. | | | |
| Sneaky suspicion about Omari on 09:56 - May 31 with 4645 views | JammyDodgerrr |
| Sneaky suspicion about Omari on 09:43 - May 31 by Dennyx4 |
Is it pure profit? Didn’t Chelsea buy him from Arsenal for £3m.
Not sure how that works on PSR? |
Didn't actually know that! | |
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| Sneaky suspicion about Omari on 09:57 - May 31 with 4643 views | Herbivore |
It'll be interesting to see how it plays out. A couple of weeks ago I was convinced that a loan was our only chance of bringing him back here but the mood music now seems to suggest he could leave permanently. If we can get him at under £20m up front (ideally nearer to £15m then add ons) then I think that's a bit of business that's well worth doing. He was utterly ridiculous towards the end of last season, he knows how we play, loves McKenna and the club it seems, and in a year he could be worth more than double what he'd cost. I'll start up a crowdfunder if needed, just get him here. |  |
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| Sneaky suspicion about Omari on 10:02 - May 31 with 4569 views | Basuco |
| Sneaky suspicion about Omari on 09:53 - May 31 by berkstractorboy |
Chelsea not got long, like all clubs deadline on PSR balancing is 30th June. |
They sold their training ground to themselves a week or two ago to buy themselves some time. |  | | |
| Sneaky suspicion about Omari on 10:05 - May 31 with 4536 views | berkstractorboy |
| Sneaky suspicion about Omari on 10:02 - May 31 by Basuco |
They sold their training ground to themselves a week or two ago to buy themselves some time. |
I thought rules around all that kind of nonsense had been introduced to stop such loopholes. Didn't Derby do similar or another club which cause an issue with FFP? | | | |
| Sneaky suspicion about Omari on 10:06 - May 31 with 4515 views | DinDjarin |
| Sneaky suspicion about Omari on 09:56 - May 31 by JammyDodgerrr |
Didn't actually know that! |
Compensation. |  | | |
| Sneaky suspicion about Omari on 10:08 - May 31 with 4476 views | wkj |
| Sneaky suspicion about Omari on 10:02 - May 31 by Basuco |
They sold their training ground to themselves a week or two ago to buy themselves some time. |
How very Mel Morris of them | |
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| Sneaky suspicion about Omari on 10:14 - May 31 with 4400 views | JakeITFC |
| Sneaky suspicion about Omari on 09:57 - May 31 by Herbivore |
It'll be interesting to see how it plays out. A couple of weeks ago I was convinced that a loan was our only chance of bringing him back here but the mood music now seems to suggest he could leave permanently. If we can get him at under £20m up front (ideally nearer to £15m then add ons) then I think that's a bit of business that's well worth doing. He was utterly ridiculous towards the end of last season, he knows how we play, loves McKenna and the club it seems, and in a year he could be worth more than double what he'd cost. I'll start up a crowdfunder if needed, just get him here. |
I think it's just one you have to do in our shoes really - £15-20m might be overpaying slightly in the here and now, but the upside potential is crazy and he was probably in the top 5 players by the end of the Championship last year at age 20 so it doesn't seem like much downside for us either. It's a rare chance where the stars are aligned in our favour and we just should look to take advantage. |  | | |
| Sneaky suspicion about Omari on 10:27 - May 31 with 4249 views | Stewart27 |
Agree.
And one I really hope we push for.
15 million plus add ons is a great price for one of the championship top players in 2024. And he’s only going to get better. | | | |
| Sneaky suspicion about Omari on 10:29 - May 31 with 4219 views | Basuco |
| Sneaky suspicion about Omari on 10:05 - May 31 by berkstractorboy |
I thought rules around all that kind of nonsense had been introduced to stop such loopholes. Didn't Derby do similar or another club which cause an issue with FFP? |
If my memory is correct, Derby inflated the price paid significantly to balance the books, but I might have got this wrong. | | | |
| Sneaky suspicion about Omari on 10:32 - May 31 with 4154 views | victorysquad |
| Sneaky suspicion about Omari on 09:53 - May 31 by berkstractorboy |
Chelsea not got long, like all clubs deadline on PSR balancing is 30th June. |
If we are smart, we could pick up some real bargains. Line up a load of deals and wait till 25th June, then knock them down 50%! | |
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| Sneaky suspicion about Omari on 10:35 - May 31 with 4114 views | wkj |
| Sneaky suspicion about Omari on 10:32 - May 31 by victorysquad |
If we are smart, we could pick up some real bargains. Line up a load of deals and wait till 25th June, then knock them down 50%! |
I would still not be shocked/sad if we make a double swoop for Hutch and Broja. I think both would work really well under McKenna. | |
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| Sneaky suspicion about Omari on 10:38 - May 31 with 4072 views | Exiled2Surrey |
| Sneaky suspicion about Omari on 10:14 - May 31 by JakeITFC |
I think it's just one you have to do in our shoes really - £15-20m might be overpaying slightly in the here and now, but the upside potential is crazy and he was probably in the top 5 players by the end of the Championship last year at age 20 so it doesn't seem like much downside for us either. It's a rare chance where the stars are aligned in our favour and we just should look to take advantage. |
Genuine question - the way he finished the season, would you rate him above Summerville?
I suspect that Summerville is quicker, but I would say Omari was a lot more effective. If you just looked at the last 10 games, say, you would not have Summerville as being twice as valuable as Hutch (30m estimate versus 15m) | | | |
| Sneaky suspicion about Omari on 10:38 - May 31 with 4073 views | CityBlue |
This is potentially a simple choice for him.
return to a club where he has achieved a promotion, become a regular player and is scoring goals, received EFL awards, close to friends and family in London and knows the system and set up.
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Move to a different country, different language and different setup and fans.
Chelsea have to make some money o the deal and I am sure here is probably a sell on clause with Arsenal for say 20% as I guarantee there was no fee in the original transfer. |  |
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| Sneaky suspicion about Omari on 10:48 - May 31 with 3917 views | JakeITFC |
| Sneaky suspicion about Omari on 10:38 - May 31 by Exiled2Surrey |
Genuine question - the way he finished the season, would you rate him above Summerville?
I suspect that Summerville is quicker, but I would say Omari was a lot more effective. If you just looked at the last 10 games, say, you would not have Summerville as being twice as valuable as Hutch (30m estimate versus 15m) |
I do really like Summerville tbf, and he ended with twice as many goals as Omari and also has a couple of years of top flight experience behind him to justify his price tag. His form definitely fell of a cliff as Hutchinson's blossomed though, so you make a fair point about effectiveness. | | | |
| Sneaky suspicion about Omari on 10:51 - May 31 with 3885 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Sneaky suspicion about Omari on 10:38 - May 31 by Exiled2Surrey |
Genuine question - the way he finished the season, would you rate him above Summerville?
I suspect that Summerville is quicker, but I would say Omari was a lot more effective. If you just looked at the last 10 games, say, you would not have Summerville as being twice as valuable as Hutch (30m estimate versus 15m) |
Summerville bottled it when the pressure was on, Omari turned up for the big games (Hull A) and provided the cutting edge when needed (Southampton A). | | | |
| Sneaky suspicion about Omari on 10:57 - May 31 with 3828 views | Mookamoo |
| Sneaky suspicion about Omari on 10:38 - May 31 by Exiled2Surrey |
Genuine question - the way he finished the season, would you rate him above Summerville?
I suspect that Summerville is quicker, but I would say Omari was a lot more effective. If you just looked at the last 10 games, say, you would not have Summerville as being twice as valuable as Hutch (30m estimate versus 15m) |
I'm not sure people put enough value on Hutchinson's ball winning ability. Not sure I saw a lot of that from Summerville.
Always looked like Hutchinson had some ability with the ball when he first joined, but the way McKenna and the coaches worked on his ability off the ball was amazing. |  | | |
| Sneaky suspicion about Omari on 11:04 - May 31 with 3767 views | Herbivore |
| Sneaky suspicion about Omari on 10:57 - May 31 by Mookamoo |
I'm not sure people put enough value on Hutchinson's ball winning ability. Not sure I saw a lot of that from Summerville.
Always looked like Hutchinson had some ability with the ball when he first joined, but the way McKenna and the coaches worked on his ability off the ball was amazing. |
His off the ball work is superb, he presses very intelligently and his pace and low centre of gravity make him a nightmare for teams trying to play out. Burns' goal against Huddersfield was a direct result of Omari pressing well and nicking the ball back. | |
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| Sneaky suspicion about Omari on 11:11 - May 31 with 3689 views | portmanking |
| Sneaky suspicion about Omari on 11:04 - May 31 by Herbivore |
His off the ball work is superb, he presses very intelligently and his pace and low centre of gravity make him a nightmare for teams trying to play out. Burns' goal against Huddersfield was a direct result of Omari pressing well and nicking the ball back. |
His low centre of gravity makes him almost unplayable at times. I often liken him to Eden Hazard in the way he can weave in and out of players. His end product improved ten-fold in just six months too....
At £15m+ add-ons (£5m bonus if we stay up?) it'd really only cost us £4m for 24/25's P&S, amortised over a 4-year deal. As others have said, it's just an opportunity we have to take with both hands.
Also led to believe Jack Clarke could be available for a similar price. Imagine Clarke one side and Omari the other, with Chappers or a new signing feeding Hirst and co.
It'd only cost us £8m in total amortisation next season, leaving plenty of headroom for elsewhere too. [Post edited 31 May 2024 11:14]
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| Sneaky suspicion about Omari on 11:12 - May 31 with 3671 views | berkstractorboy |
| Sneaky suspicion about Omari on 10:38 - May 31 by Exiled2Surrey |
Genuine question - the way he finished the season, would you rate him above Summerville?
I suspect that Summerville is quicker, but I would say Omari was a lot more effective. If you just looked at the last 10 games, say, you would not have Summerville as being twice as valuable as Hutch (30m estimate versus 15m) |
What we know is Omari is a KMc type of player, right attitude, fits in with other players so a known quantity. Too many unknowns with Summerville and strikes me could be more of a diva if things not going his way
Rght now Omari a better fit and would cost less. | | | |
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