| Away tickets next season 11:01 - Jun 18 with 23594 views | MidlandBlue25 |
Seen some people suggest it should be a ballot system for away tickets next season. What’s everyone’s thoughts?
I think that’s a bit unfair on the fans who have made the long trips to unfavourable destinations over the years. |  | | |  |
| It should stay largely as it is…. on 11:04 - Jun 18 with 10630 views | Bloots |
….rewarding the most loyal/committed fans, particularly this season when we are gonna see a lot more one season wonders come out of the woodwork.
My only thought on a slight change would be to hold a couple of hundred back for a ballot, just to make sure it isn’t a “closed shop”.
They also need to put a time limit on how long you can keep a ticket in your basket, to stop the divs holding onto dozens of tickets “for a laugh”. |  |
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| Away tickets next season on 11:12 - Jun 18 with 10568 views | Stenvict |
It's fine as it currently is. If fans aren't happy, it's because they didn't do the hard yards in L1/Championship, but now want a ticket for City away. | |
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| Away tickets next season on 11:13 - Jun 18 with 10554 views | Pinewoodblue |
The are many fans who can only afford to go to a percentage of away games. There are also fans who attend the majority of games but like to take their children, or partners, to a few games.
They have to be taken into account and a ballot seems fairer. Football should be inclusive not exclusive. |  |
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| It should stay largely as it is…. on 11:22 - Jun 18 with 10476 views | Guthrum |
| It should stay largely as it is…. on 11:04 - Jun 18 by Bloots |
….rewarding the most loyal/committed fans, particularly this season when we are gonna see a lot more one season wonders come out of the woodwork.
My only thought on a slight change would be to hold a couple of hundred back for a ballot, just to make sure it isn’t a “closed shop”.
They also need to put a time limit on how long you can keep a ticket in your basket, to stop the divs holding onto dozens of tickets “for a laugh”. |
I like the idea of a limited numbers ballot, to give new fans and the geographically distant (who may have been regular away followers in previous seasons) at least the chance of getting a ticket.
Bit of a bvgger here in the South West, as we've gone from having several regional clubs in L1 and the Champ, to only having Bournemouth, Wolves and Villa right on the periphery. |  |
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| Away tickets next season on 11:25 - Jun 18 with 10437 views | Guthrum |
| Away tickets next season on 11:12 - Jun 18 by Stenvict |
It's fine as it currently is. If fans aren't happy, it's because they didn't do the hard yards in L1/Championship, but now want a ticket for City away. |
That's not entirely fair, given that it suddenly became a lot harder to obtain away tickets in the Gamechanger/McKenna era.
I remember being able to turn up at places like Cardiff or Bristol and buy on the gate. | |
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| Away tickets next season on 11:34 - Jun 18 with 10358 views | Stenvict |
| Away tickets next season on 11:25 - Jun 18 by Guthrum |
That's not entirely fair, given that it suddenly became a lot harder to obtain away tickets in the Gamechanger/McKenna era.
I remember being able to turn up at places like Cardiff or Bristol and buy on the gate. |
Im thinking from a personal perspective, having not missed a game home or away in 3 years, that if it's a ballot for the full allocation, that would be unfair. The club can hold back the complimentary tickets for a ballot for local fans. | |
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| Away tickets next season on 11:36 - Jun 18 with 10319 views | portmanking |
| Away tickets next season on 11:12 - Jun 18 by Stenvict |
It's fine as it currently is. If fans aren't happy, it's because they didn't do the hard yards in L1/Championship, but now want a ticket for City away. |
What about those who 'did the hard yards' for decades but for one reason or another couldn't get to as many games in the last 12-18 months when the points system was introduced? Myself, I've now got 2 young boys and away games became much tougher in the last year or two. But for the 20 years prior to that, did at least 16-17 away games, year in, year out.
As others have said, holding 10-15% for a separate ballot each away game seems fair to me. [Post edited 18 Jun 2024 11:38]
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| Away tickets next season on 11:37 - Jun 18 with 10314 views | lizzibee |
Absolutely fine as it is - we put the hard graft in at horrid places (Accrington, Morecambe etc) and silly times (Plymouth and Exeter away) so I feel its right we are rewarded | | | |
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| Away tickets next season on 11:40 - Jun 18 with 10248 views | Herbivore |
Keep the system largely as is but maybe 10% of the allocation goes to ballot so it doesn't end up being a completely closed shop. Away allocations will be much bigger overall so members with high points totals are going to be more or less guaranteed a ticket to most away games this season, leaving some available for those who are only able to make some away games. |  |
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| Away tickets next season on 11:40 - Jun 18 with 10234 views | portmanking |
| Away tickets next season on 11:37 - Jun 18 by lizzibee |
Absolutely fine as it is - we put the hard graft in at horrid places (Accrington, Morecambe etc) and silly times (Plymouth and Exeter away) so I feel its right we are rewarded |
I put the 'hard graft' in at Accy, Morecambe, Fleetwood etc in 2019/20 too. Just because you were there for one season shouldn't create a closed shop. | | | |
| Away tickets next season on 11:43 - Jun 18 with 10186 views | portmanking |
| Away tickets next season on 11:40 - Jun 18 by Herbivore |
Keep the system largely as is but maybe 10% of the allocation goes to ballot so it doesn't end up being a completely closed shop. Away allocations will be much bigger overall so members with high points totals are going to be more or less guaranteed a ticket to most away games this season, leaving some available for those who are only able to make some away games. |
Precisely.
Let's say it is 10%, that's still 2,700 tickets guaranteed for the vast majority who went last season. A figure that's actually higher than our average away attendance too. | | | |
| Away tickets next season on 11:45 - Jun 18 with 10158 views | PrideOfTheEast |
| Away tickets next season on 11:43 - Jun 18 by portmanking |
Precisely.
Let's say it is 10%, that's still 2,700 tickets guaranteed for the vast majority who went last season. A figure that's actually higher than our average away attendance too. |
Agree with that. Continues to reward the loyalty but gives others a chance. | | | |
| Away tickets next season on 11:45 - Jun 18 with 10157 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Away tickets next season on 11:12 - Jun 18 by Stenvict |
It's fine as it currently is. If fans aren't happy, it's because they didn't do the hard yards in L1/Championship, but now want a ticket for City away. |
Some of us did the hard yards before Gamechanger came in, but none of that counts now apparently.
Yes a ballot for a certain amount would seem fair. And perhaps a slight bias to people who live local to that away team (which would be a nice gesture to people who don't live in Ipswich, plus would reduce our carbon footprint). Having lived in Crystal Palace for a few years, and living within walking distance of their ground, it'll be a bit annoying if I can't get a ticket now we're going to be playing them again. Selhurst Park is probably the away ground I've been to more than any other over the years, but in those days you could just rock up no problem.
It's not quite as black and white as just glory hunters wanting a ticket for City away. |  |
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| Away tickets next season on 11:46 - Jun 18 with 10127 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Away tickets next season on 11:36 - Jun 18 by portmanking |
What about those who 'did the hard yards' for decades but for one reason or another couldn't get to as many games in the last 12-18 months when the points system was introduced? Myself, I've now got 2 young boys and away games became much tougher in the last year or two. But for the 20 years prior to that, did at least 16-17 away games, year in, year out.
As others have said, holding 10-15% for a separate ballot each away game seems fair to me. [Post edited 18 Jun 2024 11:38]
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Spot on. | |
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| Away tickets next season on 11:47 - Jun 18 with 10114 views | Guthrum |
| Away tickets next season on 11:34 - Jun 18 by Stenvict |
Im thinking from a personal perspective, having not missed a game home or away in 3 years, that if it's a ballot for the full allocation, that would be unfair. The club can hold back the complimentary tickets for a ballot for local fans. |
Yes, I can see your position entirely and agree a full, unweighted ballot would be equally unfair.
But do we want a generation of fans who never can and never will get to see their team play in the flesh, purely because they have not been able to get their foot on the attendance ladder? Or have lost their foothold due to circumstances and/or the surge in demand since we started doing well?
Really, we have the difficult-but-marvellous problem of being a strongly supported club who always travel in big numbers colliding with the limited away capacities of all but the largest stadia - which are in turn constrained by Prem rules to a maximum of 3,000. Heck, we sold out more than twice that at MK in League One! | |
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| Away tickets next season on 11:49 - Jun 18 with 10053 views | SitfcB |
| Away tickets next season on 11:36 - Jun 18 by portmanking |
What about those who 'did the hard yards' for decades but for one reason or another couldn't get to as many games in the last 12-18 months when the points system was introduced? Myself, I've now got 2 young boys and away games became much tougher in the last year or two. But for the 20 years prior to that, did at least 16-17 away games, year in, year out.
As others have said, holding 10-15% for a separate ballot each away game seems fair to me. [Post edited 18 Jun 2024 11:38]
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Have a ballot instead of the general sale bracket once all the points people are sorted? |  |
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| Away tickets next season on 11:51 - Jun 18 with 10025 views | Guthrum |
| Away tickets next season on 11:49 - Jun 18 by SitfcB |
Have a ballot instead of the general sale bracket once all the points people are sorted? |
I think a lot of them aren't going to get that far. Especially the London games. | |
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| Away tickets next season on 11:52 - Jun 18 with 9969 views | Herbivore |
| Away tickets next season on 11:45 - Jun 18 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Some of us did the hard yards before Gamechanger came in, but none of that counts now apparently.
Yes a ballot for a certain amount would seem fair. And perhaps a slight bias to people who live local to that away team (which would be a nice gesture to people who don't live in Ipswich, plus would reduce our carbon footprint). Having lived in Crystal Palace for a few years, and living within walking distance of their ground, it'll be a bit annoying if I can't get a ticket now we're going to be playing them again. Selhurst Park is probably the away ground I've been to more than any other over the years, but in those days you could just rock up no problem.
It's not quite as black and white as just glory hunters wanting a ticket for City away. |
One way of working with the issue of people who live locally is to give people the opportunity to state a preference for one or two away fixtures for which they would like to be given priority in the ballot. I think some other clubs already do this or even offer one guaranteed away ticket to each member. There's never going to be a perfect system but something that rewards loyalty whilst being fair to fans who can't make every away game but still want the opportunity to go to occasional away games would be the best bet, imo. | |
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| Away tickets next season on 11:54 - Jun 18 with 9933 views | lizzibee |
| Away tickets next season on 11:40 - Jun 18 by portmanking |
I put the 'hard graft' in at Accy, Morecambe, Fleetwood etc in 2019/20 too. Just because you were there for one season shouldn't create a closed shop. |
I disagree. Save some for ballot fine, but in my opinion those who put the financial and time commitment in last season should have priority over those who didn't. | | | |
| Away tickets next season on 11:56 - Jun 18 with 9881 views | portmanking |
| Away tickets next season on 11:54 - Jun 18 by lizzibee |
I disagree. Save some for ballot fine, but in my opinion those who put the financial and time commitment in last season should have priority over those who didn't. |
So because I physically couldn't commit to away games last season - despite every fibre of my being WANTING to - I should be penalised from watching my team away forever now?
Where have I said that a ballot should take priority over last season's away followers? | | | |
| Away tickets next season on 12:02 - Jun 18 with 9837 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Away tickets next season on 11:52 - Jun 18 by Herbivore |
One way of working with the issue of people who live locally is to give people the opportunity to state a preference for one or two away fixtures for which they would like to be given priority in the ballot. I think some other clubs already do this or even offer one guaranteed away ticket to each member. There's never going to be a perfect system but something that rewards loyalty whilst being fair to fans who can't make every away game but still want the opportunity to go to occasional away games would be the best bet, imo. |
I’m guessing but you would probably have to meet some criteria to be included in the ballot. Fee paying membership or a season ticket holder.
Some priority for those who live a long way away from Ipswich who could nominate 1, or perhaps 2, game(s) where they would receive priority.
Whatever system is used it needs to be fair to as many as possible with strict penalties for those who abuse the system. Attending games, rather than just buying tickets and passing/ selling them on. | |
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| Away tickets next season on 12:03 - Jun 18 with 9827 views | Vegtablue |
Even Coventry got down to the 15+ group didn't it?
Very easy for the club to look after the current hardcore of Stenvict and co. while also providing opportunities to others. 15 of the 18 grounds will provide 3K capacity, while we averaged 2.5K away last season. | | | |
| Away tickets next season on 12:11 - Jun 18 with 9762 views | BloomBlue |
Football fans always have to start at some point in their life and we need that flow of new young fans, we should give some tickets for a ballot. If not you'll have new young fans never able to attend away games.
If it's purely based on those who have attended for the longest then you could argue the fans who have been season ticket holders for the longest should be given the first option |  | | |
| Away tickets next season on 12:14 - Jun 18 with 9738 views | chrice |
I think it should be weighted to fit exactly my circumstances. I can't see a fairer way than that. | | | |
| Away tickets next season on 12:15 - Jun 18 with 9720 views | portmanking |
| Away tickets next season on 12:11 - Jun 18 by BloomBlue |
Football fans always have to start at some point in their life and we need that flow of new young fans, we should give some tickets for a ballot. If not you'll have new young fans never able to attend away games.
If it's purely based on those who have attended for the longest then you could argue the fans who have been season ticket holders for the longest should be given the first option |
The thing is, the current system DOESN'T reward those who've attended for the longest time. In theory, someone could've started watching away in 2022/23 and now have much more priority than someone (like me) who's been going away since 1999.
There is a way of rewarding both elements of the fan base. | | | |
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