| English officials and VAR don’t mix 21:30 - Jun 21 with 4920 views | SitfcB |
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| English officials and VAR don’t mix on 21:32 - Jun 21 with 3720 views | SitfcB |
That’s a ridiculous decision. | |
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| English officials and VAR don’t mix on 21:32 - Jun 21 with 3723 views | gainsboroughblue |
Commentators knocking nail on the head.
It's all about finding ways to scrub a goal off and kill any joy in the game. |  |
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| English officials and VAR don’t mix on 21:33 - Jun 21 with 3694 views | mellowblue |
| English officials and VAR don’t mix on 21:32 - Jun 21 by gainsboroughblue |
Commentators knocking nail on the head.
It's all about finding ways to scrub a goal off and kill any joy in the game. |
Bonkers decision. Yet again. |  | | |
| English officials and VAR don’t mix on 21:33 - Jun 21 with 3683 views | NeedhamChris |
You're not wrong.
We just don't seem to understand how to use it. Embarrassing. | |
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| English officials and VAR don’t mix on 21:34 - Jun 21 with 3659 views | Illinoisblue |
| English officials and VAR don’t mix on 21:32 - Jun 21 by SitfcB |
That’s a ridiculous decision. |
Keeper didn’t even dive and would never have got there in time anyway. Dutch robbed. |  |
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| English officials and VAR don’t mix on 21:34 - Jun 21 with 3649 views | Linners |
Took far too long but clearly the right decision. If you’re not giving that then you might as well scrap the ‘interfering with play’ element completely. He’s literally between the goalkeeper and the ball. [Post edited 21 Jun 2024 21:35]
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| English officials and VAR don’t mix on 21:35 - Jun 21 with 3612 views | NeedhamChris |
| English officials and VAR don’t mix on 21:34 - Jun 21 by Linners |
Took far too long but clearly the right decision. If you’re not giving that then you might as well scrap the ‘interfering with play’ element completely. He’s literally between the goalkeeper and the ball. [Post edited 21 Jun 2024 21:35]
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He interfered with the goalkeeper standing still? | |
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| English officials and VAR don’t mix on 21:36 - Jun 21 with 3573 views | Guthrum |
Tho, to be fair, if there'd been at least a modicum of accurate shooting (and less falling over) this decision would have been irrelevant. |  |
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| English officials and VAR don’t mix on 21:37 - Jun 21 with 3555 views | Linners |
| English officials and VAR don’t mix on 21:35 - Jun 21 by NeedhamChris |
He interfered with the goalkeeper standing still? |
Yes. He shouldn’t be standing there. He is, so you have to decide if he’s influencing anything. Which he is. Tough on the Dutch because I doubt it’s being saved either way but it is offside. | | | |
| English officials and VAR don’t mix on 21:39 - Jun 21 with 3512 views | Mercian |
| English officials and VAR don’t mix on 21:37 - Jun 21 by Linners |
Yes. He shouldn’t be standing there. He is, so you have to decide if he’s influencing anything. Which he is. Tough on the Dutch because I doubt it’s being saved either way but it is offside. |
He can stand where he wants. He is only offside if he was interfering with play. He wasn't. |  | | |
| English officials and VAR don’t mix on 21:42 - Jun 21 with 3490 views | Herbivore |
The on field officials disallowed it, I'm not sure it was one for VAR to overturn given the player was stood so close to the keeper and potentially impeding him from going for the ball. People can disagree whether the keeper would have got there (probably not) but there's an argument whether he's interfering with play by impending him, in which case I don't think it's a clear and obvious error from VAR to overturn the on field decision. |  |
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| English officials and VAR don’t mix on 21:43 - Jun 21 with 3472 views | Linners |
| English officials and VAR don’t mix on 21:39 - Jun 21 by Mercian |
He can stand where he wants. He is only offside if he was interfering with play. He wasn't. |
I’d say he was. If that was given against us I’d be livid. | | | |
| English officials and VAR don’t mix on 21:43 - Jun 21 with 3472 views | SitfcB |
| English officials and VAR don’t mix on 21:34 - Jun 21 by Linners |
Took far too long but clearly the right decision. If you’re not giving that then you might as well scrap the ‘interfering with play’ element completely. He’s literally between the goalkeeper and the ball. [Post edited 21 Jun 2024 21:35]
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Clear gap between the player and the GK. He could’ve still chucked himself at it. | |
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| English officials and VAR don’t mix on 21:45 - Jun 21 with 3452 views | Swansea_Blue |
| English officials and VAR don’t mix on 21:39 - Jun 21 by Mercian |
He can stand where he wants. He is only offside if he was interfering with play. He wasn't. |
I thought he was. He was right where the keeper needed to dive. Whether the keeper would have got to the shot is irrelevant. But whichever way that call had gone, it still took far too long to get a decision. |  |
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| English officials and VAR don’t mix on 21:46 - Jun 21 with 3445 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| English officials and VAR don’t mix on 21:43 - Jun 21 by SitfcB |
Clear gap between the player and the GK. He could’ve still chucked himself at it. |
The only point he was between the goalkeeper and the ball was as it was going in the net. There is no way that he obstructed the keeper's view or prevented him from diving to save it. |  |
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| English officials and VAR don’t mix on 21:46 - Jun 21 with 3434 views | Herbivore |
| English officials and VAR don’t mix on 21:43 - Jun 21 by SitfcB |
Clear gap between the player and the GK. He could’ve still chucked himself at it. |
And he'd have hit the player because the player was about a yard from him. It took too long but I don't have an issue with them not overturning the ref, just as I wouldn't have done if the ref had given it and they'd let it stand. It's a judgment call whether he's interfering or not and those calls are subjective and open to disagreement, it's not one where it's a clear and obvious error, imo. | |
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| English officials and VAR don’t mix on 21:50 - Jun 21 with 3382 views | Mercian |
| English officials and VAR don’t mix on 21:45 - Jun 21 by Swansea_Blue |
I thought he was. He was right where the keeper needed to dive. Whether the keeper would have got to the shot is irrelevant. But whichever way that call had gone, it still took far too long to get a decision. |
It is not clear cut for sure. When it goes to VAR It still comes down to a human decision. People on this and other forums do not agree with about 60/40 saying it was a goal. Surely the benefit of any doubt should go to the attacking team. That is why I say it's a goal. | | | |
| English officials and VAR don’t mix on 21:52 - Jun 21 with 3358 views | VanSaParody |
| English officials and VAR don’t mix on 21:34 - Jun 21 by Linners |
Took far too long but clearly the right decision. If you’re not giving that then you might as well scrap the ‘interfering with play’ element completely. He’s literally between the goalkeeper and the ball. [Post edited 21 Jun 2024 21:35]
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Agree took too long to make decision
Disagree it was right decision - because it was the WRONG decision - yes, player was obviously in an offside position, but was absolutely NOT impeding the GK's line of sight & if you're a GK, you're diving left whether he's there, or a defender's there, or the ref's there or a pitch invader's there, or a dog's there or no-one's there
Disagree that he's "literally between the goalkeeper and the ball" - if he was, then he WOULD have been in the GK's line of sight, then it SHOULD have been disallowed
So, sorry, but you're wrong |  | | |
| English officials and VAR don’t mix on 21:53 - Jun 21 with 3346 views | Herbivore |
| English officials and VAR don’t mix on 21:50 - Jun 21 by Mercian |
It is not clear cut for sure. When it goes to VAR It still comes down to a human decision. People on this and other forums do not agree with about 60/40 saying it was a goal. Surely the benefit of any doubt should go to the attacking team. That is why I say it's a goal. |
You've just shown why VAR was right not to overturn the on field decision. People disagree over whether it should have stood or not, so in giving it offside the officials didn't commit a clear and obvious error. It took WAY too long but that's not one for VAR to be overturning, imo. | |
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| English officials and VAR don’t mix on 21:53 - Jun 21 with 3343 views | MK1 |
| English officials and VAR don’t mix on 21:50 - Jun 21 by Mercian |
It is not clear cut for sure. When it goes to VAR It still comes down to a human decision. People on this and other forums do not agree with about 60/40 saying it was a goal. Surely the benefit of any doubt should go to the attacking team. That is why I say it's a goal. |
Like Herbie says, VAR didn't make the call, the on field officials made the call. VAR couldn't overturn it as it wasn't a clear and obvious mistake. [Post edited 21 Jun 2024 21:54]
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| English officials and VAR don’t mix on 21:53 - Jun 21 with 3336 views | RamRob |
| English officials and VAR don’t mix on 21:32 - Jun 21 by gainsboroughblue |
Commentators knocking nail on the head.
It's all about finding ways to scrub a goal off and kill any joy in the game. |
Always find the "finding a way to scrub a goal off" comment a bit weird, as that's exactly what they are meant to do
It's a goal check, they check if there is any reason the goal shouldn't stand. It's the whole point of doing it.
Harsh that this goal was disallowed, but blame the Dutch player for being in a stupid position giving the ref a decision to make |  |
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| English officials and VAR don’t mix on 21:53 - Jun 21 with 3333 views | SitfcB |
| English officials and VAR don’t mix on 21:46 - Jun 21 by Herbivore |
And he'd have hit the player because the player was about a yard from him. It took too long but I don't have an issue with them not overturning the ref, just as I wouldn't have done if the ref had given it and they'd let it stand. It's a judgment call whether he's interfering or not and those calls are subjective and open to disagreement, it's not one where it's a clear and obvious error, imo. |
Check the angle from behind the goal, goal should’ve been awarded. | |
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| English officials and VAR don’t mix on 21:57 - Jun 21 with 3286 views | Mercian |
| English officials and VAR don’t mix on 21:53 - Jun 21 by MK1 |
Like Herbie says, VAR didn't make the call, the on field officials made the call. VAR couldn't overturn it as it wasn't a clear and obvious mistake. [Post edited 21 Jun 2024 21:54]
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By the letter of the law that is correct . [Post edited 21 Jun 2024 22:02]
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| English officials and VAR don’t mix on 22:04 - Jun 21 with 3218 views | Linners |
| English officials and VAR don’t mix on 21:53 - Jun 21 by MK1 |
Like Herbie says, VAR didn't make the call, the on field officials made the call. VAR couldn't overturn it as it wasn't a clear and obvious mistake. [Post edited 21 Jun 2024 21:54]
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Agree. And is Alan Shearer really talking about the goalkeepers body position and where his weight is balanced? If he wants VAR to look at that sort of stuff as well then it'll take half an hour! | | | |
| English officials and VAR don’t mix on 22:04 - Jun 21 with 3212 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| English officials and VAR don’t mix on 21:57 - Jun 21 by Mercian |
By the letter of the law that is correct . [Post edited 21 Jun 2024 22:02]
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Unless you decide that the player is clearly not obstructing the keeper at all, in which case it is a clear and obvious error. I would say that is the call that should have been made. I would also agree that with the English officials it was the slowest VAR call of the tournament. There is an issue there regardless of whether they actually got it right. | |
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