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Stating the obvious, I know, but there's been a few people on here who have scoffed at the idea that Farage is far right so it's worth restating. The takeaways from his interview last night are here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cldd44zv3kpo
The line about protecting our culture, values, and identity from migrants - very much suggesting they are a threat to our way out of life - is straight out of the 1920s and 30s fascist playbook. It's also boll0cks. What Farage considers to be our culture, values, and identity looks very different from what most Brits would consider to be our values, culture, and identity.
He explained why he said he admired Putin, and it's basically because Putin has successfully seized power and become a de facto dictator. That's right, he thinks being a dictator makes someone an admirable politician. He admires the political savvy of someone whose political opponents end up dead or in jail.
Related to the above, he's parroted Putin's defence for invading Ukraine. He will happily side with authoritarian leaders he sympathises with overseas over his own country and its allies. Anyone who thinks this guy wouldn't have had a swastika up in his living room in the 1930s is kidding themselves.
Then there's the climate denialism, the disavowal of any responsibility for his party attracting candidates who are openly racist, supporting candidates who have said openly racist things (including some rank antisemitism in the last day or so).
He's a vile scumbag with very dangerous views that he barely masks beneath a veneer of being an 'old school' Englishman who just loves a pint and a joke about darkies and poofs, and where's the harm in that? The harm is all around us from the last time this grifter was given a platform over and over again despite being a liar and unfit for public life. Now we're giving him oxygen to play to people's base fears and prejudices all over again.
Farage is a far right loon on 12:50 - Jun 22 by leitrimblue
I found €22 and an old lump of hash down the back of the sofa last night. I'm not saying that's definitely where it is but I think it may be worth checking
Farage is a far right loon on 12:50 - Jun 22 by Nomore4
Go into Ipswich town centre… You could be anywhere in the world
really? paris? new york? rome? i think you're overselling it.
And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show
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Farage is a far right loon on 12:54 - Jun 22 with 2118 views
Farage is a far right loon on 12:51 - Jun 22 by factual_blue
Why is that a problem?
It is when each rental property has 50 families viewing. It is when the towns crime is foreign lead. It is when each job application has 50 applications. It is when 30% of my council tax goes to hotel accommodation
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Farage is a far right loon on 12:55 - Jun 22 with 2099 views
Farage is a far right loon on 12:55 - Jun 22 by leitrimblue
How would you know? I'm guessing you've never ventured much further then the other end of your village green
I work across the whole south east of the country from Kent to Norfolk. You walk round with your eyes and ears closed. I have 3 grown up children desperate for housing. So yes I very much do know
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Farage is a far right loon on 13:00 - Jun 22 with 2030 views
Farage is a far right loon on 12:58 - Jun 22 by Nomore4
I work across the whole south east of the country from Kent to Norfolk. You walk round with your eyes and ears closed. I have 3 grown up children desperate for housing. So yes I very much do know
Sorry, I take it back your clearly a men of the world who as travelled extensively over the South East of Engerland.
Perhaps if your government built some more houses it might help?
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Farage is a far right loon on 13:06 - Jun 22 with 1950 views
I suspect you don’t have to follow the (Reform) money too far before it gets back to some of Putin’s cronies. He’s already delivered Brexit for Russia, now he’s ’helping’ undermine NATO in the UK, and in the US with his pal Trump.
With the Tories taking Russian donations post-Crimea invasion, and Russian links to Brexit funding, our democracy is being undermined by greedy and treacherous politicians. A vote for Farage is a vote for Russia.
I make you correct. Russia barrel bombed Syria and flooded Europe with refugees while their cheerleaders pointed at them claiming they and the EU were the source of poor people's ills. Result - Brexit and a destabilised Europe.
Trump, Farage, Johnson et al have wrapped themselves in their nations' flags whilst selling the countries they claim to love down the river. Treason of the highest order.
It's 106 miles to Portman Road, we've got a full tank of gas, half a round of Port Salut, it's dark... and we're wearing blue tinted sunglasses.
Farage is a far right loon on 12:55 - Jun 22 by Nomore4
It is when each rental property has 50 families viewing. It is when the towns crime is foreign lead. It is when each job application has 50 applications. It is when 30% of my council tax goes to hotel accommodation
A resounding success for right wing housing policies then, assuming you've actually got any evidence for the figures you quote.
Labour market data, incidentally suggests that there can't be fifty applicants for every job: a ratio of 0.87 jobs per person in the economically active age group (16-64) means there is basically a job for everybody. From the total economically active age group, one has to deduct those who aren't actually economically active. Of the 10,700 economically active people in Ipswich, 23.7% are in education, 19.4% are homemakers, 25.9% are long-term sick and 17.1% retired.
Farage is a far right loon on 12:58 - Jun 22 by Nomore4
I work across the whole south east of the country from Kent to Norfolk. You walk round with your eyes and ears closed. I have 3 grown up children desperate for housing. So yes I very much do know
Ah you sound like a middle aged racist, no suprise you vote Reform!
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Farage is a far right loon on 13:17 - Jun 22 with 1860 views
Farage is a far right loon on 13:00 - Jun 22 by factual_blue
Had Lord Halifax, rather than Churchill, succeeded Neville Chamberlain, he'd almost certainly have gone down that route.
Michael Foot, who was one of the 'stay behind' saboteurs who'd have been the core of the resistance, said he'd personally have slit Halifax's throat.
Typical soft, namby-pamby Socialist.
Correct. Halifax really was an appeaser. He wasn’t alone. Edward 8th was basically a Nazi sympathiser and many others believed a repeat of 1914/18 was to be avoided at all costs.
Chamberlain was an appeaser. He was also an authoritarian control freak, a very odd man, but interested in technology and modernising what we had. I suspect he died in 1940 a sad, confused and lonely man.
Attlee is an interesting figure. He moves for deep hostility to rearmament to hostility towards Chamberlain’s appeasement by 1937. It shows if nothing else that people can and do change their views if they use their eyes, ears and have the breadth of mind/brains to understand what is happening. A short summary is here.
Farage is a creature of little imagination or intelligence. He is cursed with rigid views, zero listening skills that make him utterly unqualified to run even a bath. He an utter fraud. He’ll get plenty of votes, just as Mosley found plenty of supporters in the 1930s.
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Farage is a far right loon on 13:25 - Jun 22 with 1820 views
Farage is a far right loon on 13:22 - Jun 22 by Churchman
Correct. Halifax really was an appeaser. He wasn’t alone. Edward 8th was basically a Nazi sympathiser and many others believed a repeat of 1914/18 was to be avoided at all costs.
Chamberlain was an appeaser. He was also an authoritarian control freak, a very odd man, but interested in technology and modernising what we had. I suspect he died in 1940 a sad, confused and lonely man.
Attlee is an interesting figure. He moves for deep hostility to rearmament to hostility towards Chamberlain’s appeasement by 1937. It shows if nothing else that people can and do change their views if they use their eyes, ears and have the breadth of mind/brains to understand what is happening. A short summary is here.
Farage is a creature of little imagination or intelligence. He is cursed with rigid views, zero listening skills that make him utterly unqualified to run even a bath. He an utter fraud. He’ll get plenty of votes, just as Mosley found plenty of supporters in the 1930s.
A large part of Chamberlain's thinking at Munich was governed by the fact that he knew the Dominions wouldn't fight for Czechoslovakia.
Farage is a far right loon on 13:00 - Jun 22 by factual_blue
Had Lord Halifax, rather than Churchill, succeeded Neville Chamberlain, he'd almost certainly have gone down that route.
Michael Foot, who was one of the 'stay behind' saboteurs who'd have been the core of the resistance, said he'd personally have slit Halifax's throat.
Typical soft, namby-pamby Socialist.
And George Lansbury. Just for balance. And whilst we are at it Diane Abbot made the same argument as Farage and a few on here still wanted her to stand in this election. Some consistent debating on the subject would be welcome.
Guilty Men was written by three journalists: Michael Foot (a future leader of the Labour Party), Frank Owen (a former Liberal MP), and Peter Howard (a Conservative). They believed that Britain had suffered a succession of bad leaders who, with junior ministers, advisers and officials, had conducted a disastrous foreign policy towards Germany and had failed to prepare the country for war. After Victor Gollancz, creator of the Left Book Club, had been persuaded to publish the book, the authors divided the 24 chapters among themselves and wrote it in four days, finishing on 5 June 1940. Gollancz asked for some of the rhetoric to be toned down, fearing the reaction it might provoke, but he rushed it into print in four weeks.
It was under a pseudonym because the writers were employed by Lord Beaverbrook, who barred his journalists from writing for publications other than his own. Beaverbrook, who was active in the Conservative Party, was also a vocal supporter of appeasement.
As Michael Caine might say, "not a lot of people know that".
EDIT: And to confirm his non-pacifism, there's this from Wikipedia.
At the outbreak of the Second World War, Foot volunteered for military service, but was rejected because of his chronic asthma.
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Farage is a far right loon on 13:35 - Jun 22 with 1740 views
Farage is a far right loon on 12:58 - Jun 22 by Nomore4
I work across the whole south east of the country from Kent to Norfolk. You walk round with your eyes and ears closed. I have 3 grown up children desperate for housing. So yes I very much do know
None of what you’re saying is down to immigrants though.
Crime in Ipswich seems to be driven by county lines and the drug trade. The people involved in that are poor. Who is disproportionately affected by poverty?
The lack of housing and infrastructure is down to decades of Tory greed and corruption. Look at the rest of Suffolk, its rich Londoners taking up scant resources and housing, driving up prices. The same is happening where I live from Hong Kongers who have settled here. These are all off the back of Tory decisions largely.
Constantly cutting services from healthcare to the police is what drives most of the issues you are complaining about. Looking around and blaming a few browner people is a pretty pissweak position. All your posts read like is blaming other everyone and everything else, whilst demanding better for yourself and people like you.
I guess that’s where the symmetry with Nazi Nige lies in this thread.
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