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Stating the obvious, I know, but there's been a few people on here who have scoffed at the idea that Farage is far right so it's worth restating. The takeaways from his interview last night are here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cldd44zv3kpo
The line about protecting our culture, values, and identity from migrants - very much suggesting they are a threat to our way out of life - is straight out of the 1920s and 30s fascist playbook. It's also boll0cks. What Farage considers to be our culture, values, and identity looks very different from what most Brits would consider to be our values, culture, and identity.
He explained why he said he admired Putin, and it's basically because Putin has successfully seized power and become a de facto dictator. That's right, he thinks being a dictator makes someone an admirable politician. He admires the political savvy of someone whose political opponents end up dead or in jail.
Related to the above, he's parroted Putin's defence for invading Ukraine. He will happily side with authoritarian leaders he sympathises with overseas over his own country and its allies. Anyone who thinks this guy wouldn't have had a swastika up in his living room in the 1930s is kidding themselves.
Then there's the climate denialism, the disavowal of any responsibility for his party attracting candidates who are openly racist, supporting candidates who have said openly racist things (including some rank antisemitism in the last day or so).
He's a vile scumbag with very dangerous views that he barely masks beneath a veneer of being an 'old school' Englishman who just loves a pint and a joke about darkies and poofs, and where's the harm in that? The harm is all around us from the last time this grifter was given a platform over and over again despite being a liar and unfit for public life. Now we're giving him oxygen to play to people's base fears and prejudices all over again.
While I don’t agree with the politics of many on here Farage comments on Ukraine were outrageous! Nations are not invited to join NATO they apply! Finland and Sweden would not have joined if Pootin had not invaded Ukraine! The Orcs are withdrawing forces from the Finnish border to go to the’SMO’ so they are not that afraid of a NATO invasion after all are they. At the same time Pootin the master strategist has probably sourced Ukraine with another weapons supplier with his ‘defence’ pact with NK! https://www.twz.com/news-features/south-korean-arms-for-ukraine-would-be-a-huge-
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Farage is a far right loon on 10:12 - Jun 22 with 2963 views
Farage is a far right loon on 09:48 - Jun 22 by Churchman
You mean no regulation. A sort of version of the Danelaw (late 9th century when the Vikings controlled the east and north of the country) without any constraints at all
I don’t think Farage knows what EU scrutiny or regulation is. Has he ever read any of the EU regulations? I have. Does he know why they were created. Get rid of 4000 bits of EU regulation. Which bits?
His wish of Brexit without know what it meant was a clean break 31 March 2019. The ultimate ‘hard Brexit’. Does he know what the outcome would have been? I doubt it. I do. If he has any idea and still wanted that he’s more mad than Charles Manson.
Regulations which help the environment, which protect the workforce, which enforce ethical and legal practices - all of these inhibit the making of money. Or are seen as such. Remember, it's a very short-termist, introverted viewpoint.
Incinerating the lot is just an easy, uncomplicated way of achieving specific aims. They'll be retired before the consequences really come home to roost.
More like Dangeld, where entrepreneurs could get an army together, trash a few villages and be paid handomely by the (near bankrupted) government to go away ... until next year.
The mask slipped didn't it, his hate enraged support simply won't care.hate
Quoting you "He explained why he said he admired Putin, and it's basically because Putin has successfully seized power and become a de facto dictator. That's right, he thinks being a dictator makes someone an admirable politician. He admires the political savvy of someone whose political opponents end up dead or in jail."
Reform are a Private Limited Company, majority shareholder is one Nigel Farage, who all of a sudden installs himself as Leader in a bloodless coup. Check Rice is very much on boards, so it was the plan from the outset. Just like Putin's Medvedev job swaps.
If I were a political opponent in Clacton, I would; Avoid tall buildings Not drink tea Be very sceptical of perfumes received thru the post
Farage is a far right loon on 09:03 - Jun 22 by BloomBlue
Very true, you are correct in everything you say about Farage, his views are dangerous. Changing our voting system would give all people proportional representation but would also give people like Farage a bigger platform.
But also playing devil's advocate the far left group 'stop the war' and therefoe its executive team also blamed NATO expansion for putin invading Ukraine. So now I'm confused is the far right the far left or vice versa, or simply are they peas in the same pod?
If we'd had PR for the last 30 years then Farage would've been an MP many years ago, probably in 1997 and probably as leader of a brexiter type group.
He would have spoken regularly in parliament on all manner of subjects other than nationhood and his policies and utterances scrutinised to the nth degree.
He would've had to turn up and do his job, unlike when he was an MEP and let our fishing industry down by simply not bothering.
He would've shown himself to be the self-serving charlatan that he is and likely disappeared from public life a decade ago to go off and count his money. In much the way that Poison Boris eventually reached the point where he could no longer hide his real self.
Farage is a far right loon on 10:12 - Jun 22 by Guthrum
Regulations which help the environment, which protect the workforce, which enforce ethical and legal practices - all of these inhibit the making of money. Or are seen as such. Remember, it's a very short-termist, introverted viewpoint.
Incinerating the lot is just an easy, uncomplicated way of achieving specific aims. They'll be retired before the consequences really come home to roost.
More like Dangeld, where entrepreneurs could get an army together, trash a few villages and be paid handomely by the (near bankrupted) government to go away ... until next year.
It’s not just regulations re environment, workers rights, ethics and legal. It’s way beyond that. The potential consequences would have been felt in days in the most catastrophic of ways imaginable. Civil unrest did feature in the early contingency planning draft leaked to the press. There was a reason for that.
People like Farage fail to understand that countries and their economies are totally interconnected. ‘Splendid Isolation’ really doesn’t work. Never did. Especially for a country like Britain. It was actually Farage’s darling Thatcher (may she roast in hell) that pushed for the single market/Customs Union and understood what it meant. He doesn’t.
You cannot trade with anyone purely on your terms, or lack of them. It’s never worked that way and never will - unless you have colonies to pillage.
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Farage is a far right loon on 10:48 - Jun 22 with 2884 views
Farage is a far right loon on 10:41 - Jun 22 by Tangledupin_Blue
If we'd had PR for the last 30 years then Farage would've been an MP many years ago, probably in 1997 and probably as leader of a brexiter type group.
He would have spoken regularly in parliament on all manner of subjects other than nationhood and his policies and utterances scrutinised to the nth degree.
He would've had to turn up and do his job, unlike when he was an MEP and let our fishing industry down by simply not bothering.
He would've shown himself to be the self-serving charlatan that he is and likely disappeared from public life a decade ago to go off and count his money. In much the way that Poison Boris eventually reached the point where he could no longer hide his real self.
I think you are right.... these nasty loons need to be dragged out of the shadows and into the sunlight where their lack of honest and diligence is plain to see
It amazes me that Farage isn't constantly questioned about his milking of EU expenses and his abject failure to attend committee meetings during his tenure as MEP
The hope is that voters will be repelled the more they see of him
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Farage is a far right loon on 10:58 - Jun 22 with 2825 views
Farage is a far right loon on 10:46 - Jun 22 by Churchman
It’s not just regulations re environment, workers rights, ethics and legal. It’s way beyond that. The potential consequences would have been felt in days in the most catastrophic of ways imaginable. Civil unrest did feature in the early contingency planning draft leaked to the press. There was a reason for that.
People like Farage fail to understand that countries and their economies are totally interconnected. ‘Splendid Isolation’ really doesn’t work. Never did. Especially for a country like Britain. It was actually Farage’s darling Thatcher (may she roast in hell) that pushed for the single market/Customs Union and understood what it meant. He doesn’t.
You cannot trade with anyone purely on your terms, or lack of them. It’s never worked that way and never will - unless you have colonies to pillage.
Indeed. Even then, you needed the devloped markets to buy the stuff produced with raw materials from the colonies. The world has been global since the dawn of human civilisation, it's just goods moved a bit slower and went via more middle-men.
But they really don't care about most of that. It's short-term moneymaking. You can always retire to Mar-a-Lago and avoid the fallout.
All this stuff is a slippery slope. He backs Trump. He sorta backs Putin. If you give these sort of people an inch, they take a mile. Too many like Le Pen realise they have to hold back a touch to look like they aren't that extreme, but when they get power you would see a shift.
The fact Farage sang Nazi songs drunk as a youth shows some of his true colours. He excuses that as the exuberance of youth, but at 17 I knew better than to sing or even want to sing Nazi songs. It's an affront to the men that fought and died against fascism.
Farage is a far right loon on 09:15 - Jun 22 by GlasgowBlue
Aren’t you somebody who opposes Proportional Representation or am I mistaking you for another poster?
You’re confusing me with another poster.
BUT proportional representation inevitably gives an equal ncreased voice to minorities who the majority find troubling. And nobody likes to listen to other people’s opinions as you can see every day on here.
Farage is a far right loon on 08:43 - Jun 22 by Herbivore
I'm not sure he is a good public speaker is he? I guess it depends on your definition, but for me a good public speaker is someone who is all over the detail and who is able to deal in facts and think on their feet when challenged. That is certainly not Farage.
It's the Boris Johnson school of 'good' public speaking in which the speaker is required to say things to appeal to the bigoted and easily conned rather than actually speak with any degree of substance.
I'm one of the people who was blamed for getting Paul Cook sacked. PM for the full post.
Farage is a far right loon on 12:34 - Jun 22 by Nomore4
Vote Reform…Vote change
is that change as in enabling the russian re-annexation of eastern europe? edgy.
And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show
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Farage is a far right loon on 12:37 - Jun 22 with 2556 views
Farage is a far right loon on 09:07 - Jun 22 by itfcjoe
One positive is he combines the cultural populism with a libertarian streak that just doesn’t wash in the UK - people don’t want insurance based health care and no state so this stops him from being more dangerous
My view is that there is a ceiling (perhaps 25 to 30 per cent) for the entire package that Farage (and also Badenoch, who seems to be the Telegraph favourite) offer, especially when exposed to scrutiny.
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Farage is a far right loon on 12:40 - Jun 22 with 2520 views
Farage is a far right loon on 12:40 - Jun 22 by Nomore4
We want our country back
so do the ukranians.
And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show
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Farage is a far right loon on 12:43 - Jun 22 with 2482 views
Farage is a far right loon on 12:37 - Jun 22 by DJR
My view is that there is a ceiling (perhaps 25 to 30 per cent) for the entire package that Farage (and also Badenoch, who seems to be the Telegraph favourite) offer, especially when exposed to scrutiny.
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People seem very keen on insurance-based healthcare for their pets. It’s what’s transformed veterinary surgery from a profession to something approaching a scam in not much more than two decades.
People like something for nothing perhaps hence the enduring love in with the nhs and tax cuts
Farage is a far right loon on 12:47 - Jun 22 by factual_blue
Where's it gone?
I found €22 and an old lump of hash down the back of the sofa last night. I'm not saying that's definitely where it is but I think it may be worth checking
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Farage is a far right loon on 12:50 - Jun 22 with 2384 views
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