| In talks with Philogene 09:12 - Jun 27 with 8906 views | portmanking |
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| Personally I think that JS…. on 10:40 - Jun 27 with 2745 views | Bloots |
| In talks with Philogene on 10:33 - Jun 27 by PhilTWTD |
Think we have should we want to trigger it, don't recall any party dismissing it. Personally, despite playing such a big role in promotion, I'm not sure we'd want to do that. Think there will be better alternatives. |
…would thrive in the Prem.
Fussier referees, more protection, VAR, etc. I think his skills and unpredictability would be more of an asset than in the Championship. |  |
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| In talks with Philogene on 10:42 - Jun 27 with 2732 views | BrightonBlue |
| In talks with Philogene on 10:39 - Jun 27 by PhilTWTD |
I've not watched any of that, if he's doing well there then perhaps he might be looked at again, or by Brighton, of course. Looking at his performances here, I thought he tended to do very well off the bench but less so as a starter and I think we'd want more than that, particularly moving up a division. |
I see him as a Reuser type acquisition. Steps up into that role in the Prem too. Agree with Joe re Copa. [Post edited 27 Jun 2024 10:43]
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| In talks with Philogene on 10:46 - Jun 27 with 2672 views | PhilTWTD |
| In talks with Philogene on 10:42 - Jun 27 by BrightonBlue |
I see him as a Reuser type acquisition. Steps up into that role in the Prem too. Agree with Joe re Copa. [Post edited 27 Jun 2024 10:43]
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That is an interesting comparison. Took Reuser half a season to make an impression in the Premier League and I think Sarmiento still has a long way to go in his development. Was great coming off the bench, don't get me wrong, but when he started he didn't seem to have the discipline to do what was required. |  | | |
| But surely the role of…. on 10:47 - Jun 27 with 2664 views | Bloots |
| In talks with Philogene on 10:39 - Jun 27 by PhilTWTD |
I've not watched any of that, if he's doing well there then perhaps he might be looked at again, or by Brighton, of course. Looking at his performances here, I thought he tended to do very well off the bench but less so as a starter and I think we'd want more than that, particularly moving up a division. |
…match “finishers” is absolutely intrinsic to the way KM plays football?
Sarmiento is great in that role.
It’s not just about starters anymore.
Come on Phil, less of the archaic views on football! [Post edited 27 Jun 2024 10:48]
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| In talks with Philogene on 10:48 - Jun 27 with 2643 views | Herbivore |
| In talks with Philogene on 10:33 - Jun 27 by PhilTWTD |
Think we have should we want to trigger it, don't recall any party dismissing it. Personally, despite playing such a big role in promotion, I'm not sure we'd want to do that. Think there will be better alternatives. |
I'd take him if a permanent deal was doable at a decent price but not on loan. I'm not sure he's ready yet to be a regular starter, he's still more of a project, and with only two Prem loans allowed we need to use them to inject top quality and/or some Prem experience. Taking Sarmiento on loan to be a bench option and occasional starter wouldn't be a good use of a loan spot for me. If we can get him permanently that changes things as we'd be developing him for our own benefit and I see him as someone with serious potential. |  |
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| In talks with Philogene on 10:48 - Jun 27 with 2639 views | SheffordBlue |
| In talks with Philogene on 10:46 - Jun 27 by PhilTWTD |
That is an interesting comparison. Took Reuser half a season to make an impression in the Premier League and I think Sarmiento still has a long way to go in his development. Was great coming off the bench, don't get me wrong, but when he started he didn't seem to have the discipline to do what was required. |
Personally thought there was a step up in his performances after our 2 week break caused by Coventry's FA Cup semi-final. Due to fixture congestion/international commitments, he'd never had that much time 'on the grass' with McKenna. Would be quite excited by what he could do with a full pre-season under his belt. | |
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| In talks with Philogene on 10:49 - Jun 27 with 2626 views | itfcjoe |
| In talks with Philogene on 10:46 - Jun 27 by PhilTWTD |
That is an interesting comparison. Took Reuser half a season to make an impression in the Premier League and I think Sarmiento still has a long way to go in his development. Was great coming off the bench, don't get me wrong, but when he started he didn't seem to have the discipline to do what was required. |
He looked really good after he'd had that 2 week period before last few games, and guess that was first time he'd spent any time on the training ground really since signing.
I think he's just one of those who is always going to pop up in big moments and make things happen - I'd love to see him on a permanent transfer here, it feels doable |  |
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| In talks with Philogene on 10:53 - Jun 27 with 2567 views | Herbivore |
| In talks with Philogene on 10:49 - Jun 27 by itfcjoe |
He looked really good after he'd had that 2 week period before last few games, and guess that was first time he'd spent any time on the training ground really since signing.
I think he's just one of those who is always going to pop up in big moments and make things happen - I'd love to see him on a permanent transfer here, it feels doable |
He's not young young anymore and Brighton have players ahead of him who are even younger I believe so it may be that they see this as the time to cash in and let him go permanently. If a deal can be done I'd be happy to have him back permanently, would be less interested in him being one of our two Prem loans. | |
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| In talks with Philogene on 10:55 - Jun 27 with 2530 views | PhilTWTD |
| In talks with Philogene on 10:49 - Jun 27 by itfcjoe |
He looked really good after he'd had that 2 week period before last few games, and guess that was first time he'd spent any time on the training ground really since signing.
I think he's just one of those who is always going to pop up in big moments and make things happen - I'd love to see him on a permanent transfer here, it feels doable |
Certainly agree with the big moments thing, definitely that Reuser knack of popping up and taking a chance when it mattered. You and Shefford may well be right about longer on the training ground benefiting him. Just thought we saw his limitations from the start in games like Cardiff away and think we might be better off with someone with experience at Premier League level. That's my overall feeling anyway, that getting more Premier League experience in should be a priority given there are so few top flight appearances across the squad.
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| But surely the role of…. on 10:57 - Jun 27 with 2502 views | PhilTWTD |
| But surely the role of…. on 10:47 - Jun 27 by Bloots |
…match “finishers” is absolutely intrinsic to the way KM plays football?
Sarmiento is great in that role.
It’s not just about starters anymore.
Come on Phil, less of the archaic views on football! [Post edited 27 Jun 2024 10:48]
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Ha! That is true but you're limited on squad numbers, so ideally you wouldn't want players just to play 30 minutes or whatever. The management could view him differently, of course. They may well feel they can progress him quickly, or my criticism is nonsense, of course. | | | |
| But surely the role of…. on 10:58 - Jun 27 with 2485 views | Mookamoo |
| But surely the role of…. on 10:47 - Jun 27 by Bloots |
…match “finishers” is absolutely intrinsic to the way KM plays football?
Sarmiento is great in that role.
It’s not just about starters anymore.
Come on Phil, less of the archaic views on football! [Post edited 27 Jun 2024 10:48]
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Suppose it depends on the price that was agreed and if his wages are acceptable for a player who would be on for 20 minutes tops every other game.
Could be we have him for a season and sell him of a small profit should we stay up if his Copa appearances and having another year of Prem experience behind him add some value [Post edited 27 Jun 2024 11:03]
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| Yeah probably nonsense. (n/t) on 11:01 - Jun 27 with 2443 views | Bloots |
| But surely the role of…. on 10:57 - Jun 27 by PhilTWTD |
Ha! That is true but you're limited on squad numbers, so ideally you wouldn't want players just to play 30 minutes or whatever. The management could view him differently, of course. They may well feel they can progress him quickly, or my criticism is nonsense, of course. |
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| In talks with Philogene on 11:14 - Jun 27 with 2327 views | Kieran_Knows |
| In talks with Philogene on 10:38 - Jun 27 by Parky |
If we somehow end up with Philogene and Hutchinson in our squad next season, it will have been a remarkable transfer window and a massive statement that we’re not just there to make up the numbers. |
See also the Greek lad. He’d be some coup given the reported interest in him. |  |
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| But surely the role of…. on 11:14 - Jun 27 with 2321 views | Pinewoodblue |
| But surely the role of…. on 10:58 - Jun 27 by Mookamoo |
Suppose it depends on the price that was agreed and if his wages are acceptable for a player who would be on for 20 minutes tops every other game.
Could be we have him for a season and sell him of a small profit should we stay up if his Copa appearances and having another year of Prem experience behind him add some value [Post edited 27 Jun 2024 11:03]
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Suspect his current value is greater than when we took him on loan, a good reason to do the deal. |  |
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| In talks with Philogene on 11:21 - Jun 27 with 2290 views | LankHenners |
| In talks with Philogene on 11:14 - Jun 27 by Kieran_Knows |
See also the Greek lad. He’d be some coup given the reported interest in him. |
Philogene, Omari, Burns behind Ioannidis we'd qualify for Europe ffs. |  |
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| In talks with Philogene on 11:23 - Jun 27 with 2253 views | SonOfSpock |
| In talks with Philogene on 09:17 - Jun 27 by MattinLondon |
Considering they are over €600 million in debt, I’m surprised that Barca are still operating as a club, yet alone able to somehow fund transfers. |
As we've seen with Man City, if a club i big enough they can seemingly do what they want unfortunately. |  | | |
| But surely the role of…. on 11:31 - Jun 27 with 2180 views | Mookamoo |
| But surely the role of…. on 11:14 - Jun 27 by Pinewoodblue |
Suspect his current value is greater than when we took him on loan, a good reason to do the deal. |
Thats what I'm getting at - if we have agreed a top half Championship price for him and he is able to come here an not cause too much of an issue with the wage bill, then we have a good player that knows the system who can offer something to the squad. Even if he does just OK, then we will get back what we pay for him plus a little more. | | | |
| In talks with Philogene on 11:37 - Jun 27 with 2118 views | Europablue |
| In talks with Philogene on 10:39 - Jun 27 by PhilTWTD |
I've not watched any of that, if he's doing well there then perhaps he might be looked at again, or by Brighton, of course. Looking at his performances here, I thought he tended to do very well off the bench but less so as a starter and I think we'd want more than that, particularly moving up a division. |
Playing off the bench as an impact sub in the Premier League is a step up from doing the same in the Championship. I'd have Sarmiento back in a heartbeat, but it really depends on more than whether we like him. It needs to be the right deal for him personally, for the club, and be at the right price as well as suiting the balance of the squad that we are putting together.
Just assume that loans won't be coming back, then if they do it's a pleasant surprise! | | | |
| Europa League…. on 11:50 - Jun 27 with 1988 views | Bloots |
| In talks with Philogene on 11:21 - Jun 27 by LankHenners |
Philogene, Omari, Burns behind Ioannidis we'd qualify for Europe ffs. |
…with all of them.
Conference with 3 of them.
Sorted. | |
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| In talks with Philogene on 11:56 - Jun 27 with 1949 views | NthQldITFC |
| In talks with Philogene on 10:34 - Jun 27 by FrimleyBlue |
Ansu Fati :) |
Anyone else head-singing Bad Manners, and chair-pogoing Buster Bloodvessel? |  |
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| In talks with Philogene on 13:04 - Jun 27 with 1729 views | Parky |
| In talks with Philogene on 11:21 - Jun 27 by LankHenners |
Philogene, Omari, Burns behind Ioannidis we'd qualify for Europe ffs. |
Would be dreamy, but really can’t see Philogene coming here. | | | |
| In talks with Philogene on 17:42 - Jun 27 with 1447 views | BrightonBlue |
| In talks with Philogene on 10:49 - Jun 27 by itfcjoe |
He looked really good after he'd had that 2 week period before last few games, and guess that was first time he'd spent any time on the training ground really since signing.
I think he's just one of those who is always going to pop up in big moments and make things happen - I'd love to see him on a permanent transfer here, it feels doable |
100% would try and sign him on a perm. Has a decent ceiling and he has the ability to change a game from 60 mins onwards which could be invaluable next season. He is one of those players that definitely makes things happen, particularly against tired legs. He has taken his form with us to the Copa.
As mentioned above, I see him as a Reuser type. Reuser scored six or so important goals in 00/01 in the prem. Sarmiento will too, as we challenge at the top next season. I'd settle for Europa but CL would be nice. [Post edited 27 Jun 2024 17:48]
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