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At what point do new signings need to be in the door to make Liv (H)? 22:56 - Aug 1 with 5037 viewsMatt_Netherlands

Not technically speaking by the law as if the game, but tactically in order to be bedded in and settled with the group for a game of that magnitude?

Unless it’s a big big signing, I’d imagine anyone signed after this weekend would be on the bench for that game rather than starting, especially given there’s only one friendly to go. KM isn’t a huge gambler and I think he’d rather go with someone who knows the system inside out, over someone perhaps with more ability but less familiar with what is expected.

Does he have much precedent for throwing signings straight in? Wouldn’t be at all surprised to see another behind closed doors friendly or two be played once more players are in.

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At what point do new signings need to be in the door to make Liv (H)? on 23:07 - Aug 1 with 4156 viewsFrimleyBlue

By next weekend really. After that they'd start the planning and tactical meetings you'd imagine.

I think many have spoken of the opening games as free hits. I think we might have a free hit August and hope to get going in September.

I reckon first few games will see us use most of last year's team and the finishes being the newer signings.

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At what point do new signings need to be in the door to make Liv (H)? on 23:11 - Aug 1 with 4147 viewspositivity

think it depends on where they've come from and what their fitness level is like, travis came straight in, but he was a bit of an exception

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At what point do new signings need to be in the door to make Liv (H)? on 23:33 - Aug 1 with 4064 viewsMatt_Netherlands

At what point do new signings need to be in the door to make Liv (H)? on 23:07 - Aug 1 by FrimleyBlue

By next weekend really. After that they'd start the planning and tactical meetings you'd imagine.

I think many have spoken of the opening games as free hits. I think we might have a free hit August and hope to get going in September.

I reckon first few games will see us use most of last year's team and the finishes being the newer signings.


Not sure I buy the whole free hit thing. Lose our first two with a goal difference of -10 and suddenly a lot of positive energy will suddenly have been sucked away and there’s pressure on to get a result against a very handy Fulham side.

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t have high expectations for either game but we shouldn’t think they haven’t lasting impact on the mood around the squad / club as a whole.
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At what point do new signings need to be in the door to make Liv (H)? on 00:05 - Aug 2 with 4004 viewsitfctilidie

At what point do new signings need to be in the door to make Liv (H)? on 23:07 - Aug 1 by FrimleyBlue

By next weekend really. After that they'd start the planning and tactical meetings you'd imagine.

I think many have spoken of the opening games as free hits. I think we might have a free hit August and hope to get going in September.

I reckon first few games will see us use most of last year's team and the finishes being the newer signings.


I don't think we will be considering any of our matches a free hit this season given what is at stake. Sneak a point or more against City or Liverpool and it could be a defining factor come season's end - arguably no better time to play both as well.
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At what point do new signings need to be in the door to make Liv (H)? on 00:14 - Aug 2 with 3982 viewsMattinLondon

At what point do new signings need to be in the door to make Liv (H)? on 23:07 - Aug 1 by FrimleyBlue

By next weekend really. After that they'd start the planning and tactical meetings you'd imagine.

I think many have spoken of the opening games as free hits. I think we might have a free hit August and hope to get going in September.

I reckon first few games will see us use most of last year's team and the finishes being the newer signings.


I’m not having a pop at you - but the phrase ‘free hit’ really annoys me. It just smacks of a loser mentality or of a non-league team, at a PL club for the third round of the cup.
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At what point do new signings need to be in the door to make Liv (H)? on 00:59 - Aug 2 with 3901 viewsitfc1108

At what point do new signings need to be in the door to make Liv (H)? on 23:33 - Aug 1 by Matt_Netherlands

Not sure I buy the whole free hit thing. Lose our first two with a goal difference of -10 and suddenly a lot of positive energy will suddenly have been sucked away and there’s pressure on to get a result against a very handy Fulham side.

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t have high expectations for either game but we shouldn’t think they haven’t lasting impact on the mood around the squad / club as a whole.


I agree, and the top sides could be slow starters, with players being away until very recently at the European championships and copa America. We need to try and take advantage of that.
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At what point do new signings need to be in the door to make Liv (H)? on 01:28 - Aug 2 with 3864 viewsArchiRob

At what point do new signings need to be in the door to make Liv (H)? on 00:59 - Aug 2 by itfc1108

I agree, and the top sides could be slow starters, with players being away until very recently at the European championships and copa America. We need to try and take advantage of that.


From what I can see the established Premiership sides are all playing each other allready - I watched Man U V Arsenal last weekend and both looked pretty much focused and ready to go. We will not be playing complacent teams and will need to turn up for the first match there isn't going to be any free hits.
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At what point do new signings need to be in the door to make Liv (H)? on 04:52 - Aug 2 with 3685 viewsMK1

Think the Liverpool starting X1 are already in the building.

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At what point do new signings need to be in the door to make Liv (H)? on 06:36 - Aug 2 with 3540 viewsPioneerBlue

At what point do new signings need to be in the door to make Liv (H)? on 00:05 - Aug 2 by itfctilidie

I don't think we will be considering any of our matches a free hit this season given what is at stake. Sneak a point or more against City or Liverpool and it could be a defining factor come season's end - arguably no better time to play both as well.


Agree 100%

There are plenty of people showing the mathematical route to survival. In none of these models do we see points against the top points against the top 6-8.

We know football doesn’t work like the model therefore we have to treat each game on its merits and it’s only after the fact might we reflect on a game being one to learn from alongside other results and teams around us.

Every loss will hurt our chances of being the team we’d love to be.

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At what point do new signings need to be in the door to make Liv (H)? on 06:36 - Aug 2 with 3533 viewsibbleobble

At what point do new signings need to be in the door to make Liv (H)? on 23:33 - Aug 1 by Matt_Netherlands

Not sure I buy the whole free hit thing. Lose our first two with a goal difference of -10 and suddenly a lot of positive energy will suddenly have been sucked away and there’s pressure on to get a result against a very handy Fulham side.

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t have high expectations for either game but we shouldn’t think they haven’t lasting impact on the mood around the squad / club as a whole.


We’ll surprise a lot of people against Liverpool. Our home form will be key this season. Backing is for a draw.
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At what point do new signings need to be in the door to make Liv (H)? on 06:39 - Aug 2 with 3521 viewsPioneerBlue

At what point do new signings need to be in the door to make Liv (H)? on 04:52 - Aug 2 by MK1

Think the Liverpool starting X1 are already in the building.


Most likely right on this. There are only a couple of positions which might slot in probably in more attacking positions but I don’t see CMf being touched this close to season kick off, striker perhaps if something big happened or potentially the L10 position but more likely all would be finishers.

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At what point do new signings need to be in the door to make Liv (H)? on 06:52 - Aug 2 with 3494 viewsRIPbobby

At what point do new signings need to be in the door to make Liv (H)? on 23:11 - Aug 1 by positivity

think it depends on where they've come from and what their fitness level is like, travis came straight in, but he was a bit of an exception


Yep we bought him in to cover for Morsy being out for 2.
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At what point do new signings need to be in the door to make Liv (H)? on 06:54 - Aug 2 with 3471 viewsKieran_Knows

At what point do new signings need to be in the door to make Liv (H)? on 23:07 - Aug 1 by FrimleyBlue

By next weekend really. After that they'd start the planning and tactical meetings you'd imagine.

I think many have spoken of the opening games as free hits. I think we might have a free hit August and hope to get going in September.

I reckon first few games will see us use most of last year's team and the finishes being the newer signings.


Free hits? Utter drivel.

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At what point do new signings need to be in the door to make Liv (H)? on 08:18 - Aug 2 with 3135 viewsGarv

At what point do new signings need to be in the door to make Liv (H)? on 23:07 - Aug 1 by FrimleyBlue

By next weekend really. After that they'd start the planning and tactical meetings you'd imagine.

I think many have spoken of the opening games as free hits. I think we might have a free hit August and hope to get going in September.

I reckon first few games will see us use most of last year's team and the finishes being the newer signings.


City could be considered a free hit, not so much Liverpool.

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At what point do new signings need to be in the door to make Liv (H)? on 08:46 - Aug 2 with 3024 viewsFrimleyBlue

At what point do new signings need to be in the door to make Liv (H)? on 06:54 - Aug 2 by Kieran_Knows

Free hits? Utter drivel.


You know by my posting history I don't believe in free hits.

But likewise i also don't see how this current squad competes in any way in our opening set of fixtures as it stands. So whilst I don't like the term free hit. I also don't see any point in hoping for any points in August with this current squad.

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At what point do new signings need to be in the door to make Liv (H)? on 08:55 - Aug 2 with 2943 viewsGarv

At what point do new signings need to be in the door to make Liv (H)? on 04:52 - Aug 2 by MK1

Think the Liverpool starting X1 are already in the building.


Muric
Johnson Woolfenden Greaves Davis
Morsy Luongo
Burns Chaplin Hutch
Hirst

That XI?

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At what point do new signings need to be in the door to make Liv (H)? on 08:58 - Aug 2 with 2904 viewscressi

At what point do new signings need to be in the door to make Liv (H)? on 23:07 - Aug 1 by FrimleyBlue

By next weekend really. After that they'd start the planning and tactical meetings you'd imagine.

I think many have spoken of the opening games as free hits. I think we might have a free hit August and hope to get going in September.

I reckon first few games will see us use most of last year's team and the finishes being the newer signings.


No such thing as a free hit yes any points are a bonus but always go out to try and get something or don't put the shirt on.
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At what point do new signings need to be in the door to make Liv (H)? on 09:14 - Aug 2 with 2841 viewsMatt_Netherlands

At what point do new signings need to be in the door to make Liv (H)? on 00:59 - Aug 2 by itfc1108

I agree, and the top sides could be slow starters, with players being away until very recently at the European championships and copa America. We need to try and take advantage of that.


Makes it even more terrifying that Haaland has had a summer off to recharge the batteries.
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At what point do new signings need to be in the door to make Liv (H)? on 09:43 - Aug 2 with 2754 viewsEuropablue

At what point do new signings need to be in the door to make Liv (H)? on 00:14 - Aug 2 by MattinLondon

I’m not having a pop at you - but the phrase ‘free hit’ really annoys me. It just smacks of a loser mentality or of a non-league team, at a PL club for the third round of the cup.


Free hit isn't a loser mentality, it's just the general expectations from fans and the media are low and if we lose both matches 2-0 that would be expected. Nothing is expected of us, so we can play with freedom and express ourselves and maybe get a result. We still expect the team to be playing for the three points.
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At what point do new signings need to be in the door to make Liv (H)? on 09:54 - Aug 2 with 2673 viewspositivity

At what point do new signings need to be in the door to make Liv (H)? on 06:52 - Aug 2 by RIPbobby

Yep we bought him in to cover for Morsy being out for 2.
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that's true, but he wouldn't have started if he wasn't coming in fully match fit from regular game time at blackburn.

likewise, a player coming in with a full itfc level pre-season has a chance to start

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At what point do new signings need to be in the door to make Liv (H)? on 08:55 - Aug 2 by Garv

Muric
Johnson Woolfenden Greaves Davis
Morsy Luongo
Burns Chaplin Hutch
Hirst

That XI?


….for the start.

So it’ll probably be Delap up top with Harness in the left and Hutch on the right, assuming he’s fit.

Ladapo on the bench as the impact sub.

If Hutch isn’t fit then Delap could move to the right and Ladapo will start.

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Burns and Hirst won’t be fit… on 10:01 - Aug 2 with 2571 viewschicoazul

Burns and Hirst won’t be fit… on 10:00 - Aug 2 by Bloots

….for the start.

So it’ll probably be Delap up top with Harness in the left and Hutch on the right, assuming he’s fit.

Ladapo on the bench as the impact sub.

If Hutch isn’t fit then Delap could move to the right and Ladapo will start.


Don’t. Just don’t.

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At what point do new signings need to be in the door to make Liv (H)? on 10:01 - Aug 2 with 2554 viewsBlueBadger

At what point do new signings need to be in the door to make Liv (H)? on 00:14 - Aug 2 by MattinLondon

I’m not having a pop at you - but the phrase ‘free hit’ really annoys me. It just smacks of a loser mentality or of a non-league team, at a PL club for the third round of the cup.


It's a flashback to the era of people applauding relegation, isn't it?
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At what point do new signings need to be in the door to make Liv (H)? on 10:05 - Aug 2 with 2503 viewsBlueBadger

At what point do new signings need to be in the door to make Liv (H)? on 09:43 - Aug 2 by Europablue

Free hit isn't a loser mentality, it's just the general expectations from fans and the media are low and if we lose both matches 2-0 that would be expected. Nothing is expected of us, so we can play with freedom and express ourselves and maybe get a result. We still expect the team to be playing for the three points.


It literally came to prominence during the early days of Lambert. When people literally applauded us to relegation.

It's entirely a loser's mentality and I suspect not an approach that KM's management team will be taking.

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At what point do new signings need to be in the door to make Liv (H)? on 10:06 - Aug 2 with 2471 viewsFrimleyBlue

At what point do new signings need to be in the door to make Liv (H)? on 10:01 - Aug 2 by BlueBadger

It's a flashback to the era of people applauding relegation, isn't it?
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It's funny tho

You say no free hits etc

Yet come start of season. Say we lose all opening games. Some mumble about it... those who moan are told what did you expect.

So it's a free hit opening period isn't it?

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