| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle 16:15 - Aug 8 with 20811 views | baxterbasics |
Oh dear indeed. No wonder these hypocrites want to censor social media - they need to cover their tracks!
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| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 17:36 - Aug 8 with 3373 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 16:29 - Aug 8 by textbackup |
Best one is that Kent councillor stating ‘cut their throats’ and getting a massive cheer, at a peaceful rally…
Or that Narinder Kaur calling for mass riots when George Floyd was murdered. |
He's been suspended. The anti racist marches last night were completely highjacked by the pro Palestinian movement.
The far right riots over the past week have been absolutely disgusting. I condemn them without equivocation. But with Jew hate at we have seen across our cities. how could I stand at one of these "so called" anti racists marches? This should have been a genuine cross-communal protest against racism and fascism. [Post edited 8 Aug 2024 17:45]
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| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 17:42 - Aug 8 with 3277 views | textbackup |
| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 17:14 - Aug 8 by Mullet |
Deservedly so, either he’s incredibly stupid or as bigoted as those he was speaking about. |
Couldn’t just leave it as ‘ either he’s incredibly stupid or bigoted’ 😂 |  |
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| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 17:43 - Aug 8 with 3274 views | lowhouseblue |
| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 17:36 - Aug 8 by GlasgowBlue |
He's been suspended. The anti racist marches last night were completely highjacked by the pro Palestinian movement.
The far right riots over the past week have been absolutely disgusting. I condemn them without equivocation. But with Jew hate at we have seen across our cities. how could I stand at one of these "so called" anti racists marches? This should have been a genuine cross-communal protest against racism and fascism. [Post edited 8 Aug 2024 17:45]
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i couldn't understand how the palestinian flags were relevant to a protest against rioters in british cities. the bbc interviewed someone who seemed to be organising the events opposing the rioters in bristol and all he spoke about was the pro-palestime events held in the city. i don't get the link. |  |
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| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 17:57 - Aug 8 with 3212 views | positivity |
| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 17:36 - Aug 8 by GlasgowBlue |
He's been suspended. The anti racist marches last night were completely highjacked by the pro Palestinian movement.
The far right riots over the past week have been absolutely disgusting. I condemn them without equivocation. But with Jew hate at we have seen across our cities. how could I stand at one of these "so called" anti racists marches? This should have been a genuine cross-communal protest against racism and fascism. [Post edited 8 Aug 2024 17:45]
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they weren't completely hijacked, you might get a few idiots, but it's pretty natural that a movement that is highly islamophobic would be opposed by a large number of muslims (amongst many other right-thinking people).
it's also pretty natural that a lot of those people would be anti the genocide in gaza (as are a good proportion of uk-based jewish people, no?) |  |
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| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 18:01 - Aug 8 with 3180 views | textbackup |
| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 17:43 - Aug 8 by lowhouseblue |
i couldn't understand how the palestinian flags were relevant to a protest against rioters in british cities. the bbc interviewed someone who seemed to be organising the events opposing the rioters in bristol and all he spoke about was the pro-palestime events held in the city. i don't get the link. |
You’d think if their message is peace and love that they’d not be taking sides in that war. Yet here we are | |
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| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 18:07 - Aug 8 with 3156 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 17:57 - Aug 8 by positivity |
they weren't completely hijacked, you might get a few idiots, but it's pretty natural that a movement that is highly islamophobic would be opposed by a large number of muslims (amongst many other right-thinking people).
it's also pretty natural that a lot of those people would be anti the genocide in gaza (as are a good proportion of uk-based jewish people, no?) |
The marches last night were to counter the racism on the streets of England, not on the streets of Gaza. There are weekly marches up and down the country every weekend in support of Palestine. To make last night about Palestine is hijacking.
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| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 18:13 - Aug 8 with 3130 views | positivity |
| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 18:07 - Aug 8 by GlasgowBlue |
The marches last night were to counter the racism on the streets of England, not on the streets of Gaza. There are weekly marches up and down the country every weekend in support of Palestine. To make last night about Palestine is hijacking.
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i agree, i think "completely" hijacked was ott though; the vast majority of people were there to oppose the far right, not complain about the actions of netanyahu. | |
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| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 18:14 - Aug 8 with 3128 views | giant_stow |
| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 17:36 - Aug 8 by GlasgowBlue |
He's been suspended. The anti racist marches last night were completely highjacked by the pro Palestinian movement.
The far right riots over the past week have been absolutely disgusting. I condemn them without equivocation. But with Jew hate at we have seen across our cities. how could I stand at one of these "so called" anti racists marches? This should have been a genuine cross-communal protest against racism and fascism. [Post edited 8 Aug 2024 17:45]
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"completely highjacked" Way ott:
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| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 18:37 - Aug 8 with 3078 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 18:14 - Aug 8 by giant_stow |
"completely highjacked" Way ott:
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There is an anti racism march this weekend in Glasgow. I'd like to go with me wife to a) register my disgust at the far right and b) support the refugees and the British minority population who are under attack.
But I can't go as I won't associate myself with groups who will shouting "Globalise the Intifada" and "from the river to the sea". | |
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| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 18:47 - Aug 8 with 3035 views | giant_stow |
| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 18:37 - Aug 8 by GlasgowBlue |
There is an anti racism march this weekend in Glasgow. I'd like to go with me wife to a) register my disgust at the far right and b) support the refugees and the British minority population who are under attack.
But I can't go as I won't associate myself with groups who will shouting "Globalise the Intifada" and "from the river to the sea". |
You know better than me what the likely crowd will be like up there, so I won't argue there - I'm sorry to hear its likely to be that way. I stand with you on most of this stuff too - just important to pay too much attention to people who brought other matters to yesterday's protests imho. | |
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| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 18:52 - Aug 8 with 3020 views | positivity |
| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 18:37 - Aug 8 by GlasgowBlue |
There is an anti racism march this weekend in Glasgow. I'd like to go with me wife to a) register my disgust at the far right and b) support the refugees and the British minority population who are under attack.
But I can't go as I won't associate myself with groups who will shouting "Globalise the Intifada" and "from the river to the sea". |
that's a massive shame, and if it makes you feel unsafe that's totally understandable for you, but not a reason to diminish the 99% positive protests as being completely hijacked by a minority behaving negatively.
you're never going to find a big crowd where everyone is behaving impeccably.
would you describe glasto as the same, because of some palestine flags and ceasefire now messages?
is football a no-go when there'll always be some reprehensible (often antisemitic or islamophobic) chants from a minority? | |
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| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 19:06 - Aug 8 with 2980 views | Pencilpete |
I can guarantee if this was a Reform MP who had said these things the responses on here would be a lot different…. | | | |
| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 19:22 - Aug 8 with 2956 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 16:41 - Aug 8 by textbackup |
I saw many peaceful rallies on the news. Was lovely seeing people spread a message of love as opposed to hate.
Was just on social media that I saw that councillors disgusting speech.
Don’t tell me you agree with him? Or her for wanting riots previously?! |
More dishonest nonsense? Really? | | | |
| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 19:30 - Aug 8 with 2911 views | Pencilpete |
| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 18:52 - Aug 8 by positivity |
that's a massive shame, and if it makes you feel unsafe that's totally understandable for you, but not a reason to diminish the 99% positive protests as being completely hijacked by a minority behaving negatively.
you're never going to find a big crowd where everyone is behaving impeccably.
would you describe glasto as the same, because of some palestine flags and ceasefire now messages?
is football a no-go when there'll always be some reprehensible (often antisemitic or islamophobic) chants from a minority? |
See the other protests. - the ones you oppose are full of “far right racists” because some of them caused trouble
But the protests you do support trouble is brushed off because “no-one will behave impeccably”
You can turn the narrative any way you want can’t you ?? | | | |
| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 19:33 - Aug 8 with 2886 views | positivity |
| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 19:30 - Aug 8 by Pencilpete |
See the other protests. - the ones you oppose are full of “far right racists” because some of them caused trouble
But the protests you do support trouble is brushed off because “no-one will behave impeccably”
You can turn the narrative any way you want can’t you ?? |
a few chants don't compare with attempting to burn down a hotel with people inside it! get some perspective! | |
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| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 19:40 - Aug 8 with 2845 views | Mullet |
| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 19:30 - Aug 8 by Pencilpete |
See the other protests. - the ones you oppose are full of “far right racists” because some of them caused trouble
But the protests you do support trouble is brushed off because “no-one will behave impeccably”
You can turn the narrative any way you want can’t you ?? |
Isn’t it more because they are far right racists? |  |
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| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 19:50 - Aug 8 with 2784 views | Pencilpete |
| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 19:40 - Aug 8 by Mullet |
Isn’t it more because they are far right racists? |
No it isn’t - that’s just jumping on the bandwagon and lazily labelling everyone with the same brush.
As the previous poster said on ANY protest you’ll always get idiots who take things too far it doesn’t mean the ones who DO behave themselves don’t have a point. There were idiots who took things at the counter protests as well but nobody is labelling them as far left extremeists are they ??
Starmers view and seemingly yours and alot of people on this message board is that ANYONE who thinks immigration is an issue is a “far right racist” and it’s simply not true and it’s that narrative that is causing the frustration, yes many of the people are “on the right” with their political views but you and everyone else needs to accept that political views don’t go from Left, to centre left, to centre to FAR right …… | | | |
| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 19:52 - Aug 8 with 2754 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 18:52 - Aug 8 by positivity |
that's a massive shame, and if it makes you feel unsafe that's totally understandable for you, but not a reason to diminish the 99% positive protests as being completely hijacked by a minority behaving negatively.
you're never going to find a big crowd where everyone is behaving impeccably.
would you describe glasto as the same, because of some palestine flags and ceasefire now messages?
is football a no-go when there'll always be some reprehensible (often antisemitic or islamophobic) chants from a minority? |
You misunderstand. Not being comfortable does not equate with feeling unsafe. I have confronted far right racist England fans who were intimidating a young German couple in Stuttgart during the World Cup in 2006. Likewise I would confront people starting anti semitic chants. I just would not want to be there.
As for Palestinian flags at Glasto. No problem. It's a festival. There were lots of acts who gave a shout out to the people of Gaza. Again, no problem. Although it would have been nice if just one of them had mentioned the young people who went to a similar event in Israel on October 7th and never came back.
But I don't think Palestinian flags at Glasto and using an anti racist demonstration in the UK as a means to push that agenda again, especially then there are so many specific marches for Palestine each week, are in any way comparable. | |
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| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 20:03 - Aug 8 with 2693 views | Pencilpete |
| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 19:40 - Aug 8 by Mullet |
Isn’t it more because they are far right racists? |
I just want to add - I voted Labour at the last election even tho my political views are more to the right. Why did I vote Labour then you may ask …. Well the conservatives are absolutely useless and I felt Farage and Reform were too extreme in what they wanted to do - for example I think immigration levels are too high and unsustainable, do I want to stop immigration altogether? No i don’t because some immigrants are a good thing, they work hard they contribute to the economy and they do important jobs …. But do I want 700,000 a year and loads of unidentifiable men jumping off small boats by the thousand ? No I don’t
So i took a leap of faith that Starmer would do something about it. Now all I’m hearing from him and people on here that people with my views are far right racists. So what are the likes of me and I’m guessing other voters in my position going to do at the next election? We’ll go and it’s for Farage cos there is literally nothing else left to do to have our concerns taken seriously | | | |
| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 20:04 - Aug 8 with 2687 views | Mullet |
| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 19:50 - Aug 8 by Pencilpete |
No it isn’t - that’s just jumping on the bandwagon and lazily labelling everyone with the same brush.
As the previous poster said on ANY protest you’ll always get idiots who take things too far it doesn’t mean the ones who DO behave themselves don’t have a point. There were idiots who took things at the counter protests as well but nobody is labelling them as far left extremeists are they ??
Starmers view and seemingly yours and alot of people on this message board is that ANYONE who thinks immigration is an issue is a “far right racist” and it’s simply not true and it’s that narrative that is causing the frustration, yes many of the people are “on the right” with their political views but you and everyone else needs to accept that political views don’t go from Left, to centre left, to centre to FAR right …… |
So if you got a rally…
Organised by the far right
Shout racist things
Pretend the death of small girls is an excuse to abuse people
Steal
Set fire to a hotel
Commit numerous crimes Attempted murder down to petty violence
You’re not Far right but somewhere from centre right to far right? That’s what upsets you? You lot can be as frustrated as you want, but if you decide that misinformation and lies is a reason to hang around with Nazis, act like Nazis, say and do nazi things. Guess what decent people who don’t do that might think? | |
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| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 20:22 - Aug 8 with 2634 views | Clapham_Junction |
| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 17:07 - Aug 8 by jayessess |
Think a lot of the new Labour candidates are very low quality, largely because they prioritised loyalty to the main right-wing faction on the party's NEC over everything else. A lot of them are also quite unpleasant bigots, happy enough to traffic in a variety of racisms when they feel like it.
But I've never thought anyone's interests were particularly served by the modern tendency to dig through decade-old social media for gotchas. It baffles me that any professional political organisation managing a PPC's possible transition from anonymous citizen to public figure wouldn't have them delete all social media posts older than 5 years as a matter of course (and as part of their duty of care).
Would also say that people posting false information that leads to violence is a fundamentally different order of problem for society. |
What I don't get is how they didn't spot this during the checking process – several other potential candidates were left off the shortlists because of past social media comments (although as you allude to, from memory they almost exclusively seemed to be people on the left of the party).
But even for local elections level they do this scrutiny – I was shortlisted to run as a Labour councillor in a local election and had to provide details of all my social media accounts, presumably so they could be trawled for stuff like once liking a tweet by Caroline Lucas or something equally appalling that would see me expelled. |  | | |
| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 20:39 - Aug 8 with 2583 views | Pencilpete |
| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 20:04 - Aug 8 by Mullet |
So if you got a rally…
Organised by the far right
Shout racist things
Pretend the death of small girls is an excuse to abuse people
Steal
Set fire to a hotel
Commit numerous crimes Attempted murder down to petty violence
You’re not Far right but somewhere from centre right to far right? That’s what upsets you? You lot can be as frustrated as you want, but if you decide that misinformation and lies is a reason to hang around with Nazis, act like Nazis, say and do nazi things. Guess what decent people who don’t do that might think? |
Like the conservatives before you, you’re simply not listening. Either that or you don’t want to or you just want to twist whatever I say to suit your own narrative
I’m not condoning what the idiots did and I’m sure there were SOME far right extremists but not everyone who has an issue is a far right extremist
The earlier post said in ‘your’ counter protests there were idiots who did stupid things and took it too far and what you’re saying is that’s fine and not everyone who was on THAT protest is a ‘far left extremist” but because there were idiots who did stupid things and took it too far on the original protest everyone on it is a far right extremist ???
Once again like everyone on the left it’s finger pointing and labelling instead of actually listening and trying to solve the issue [Post edited 8 Aug 2024 20:42]
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| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 20:43 - Aug 8 with 2576 views | Mullet |
| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 20:39 - Aug 8 by Pencilpete |
Like the conservatives before you, you’re simply not listening. Either that or you don’t want to or you just want to twist whatever I say to suit your own narrative
I’m not condoning what the idiots did and I’m sure there were SOME far right extremists but not everyone who has an issue is a far right extremist
The earlier post said in ‘your’ counter protests there were idiots who did stupid things and took it too far and what you’re saying is that’s fine and not everyone who was on THAT protest is a ‘far left extremist” but because there were idiots who did stupid things and took it too far on the original protest everyone on it is a far right extremist ???
Once again like everyone on the left it’s finger pointing and labelling instead of actually listening and trying to solve the issue [Post edited 8 Aug 2024 20:42]
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And if that’s so, you’re simply excusing this behaviour as rhetoric as part of “concerns” you haven’t actually expressed. Why is that? I can’t twist what you haven’t said or done can I?
Perhaps most people who love this country hate Nazis? So why should we listen to stand with them, but aren’t them?
By all means, educate all of us who are so wrong, so tired of the weak and racist blaming others for their own mistakes and misfortunes. Let’s hear the error of our ways. | |
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| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 20:46 - Aug 8 with 2565 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 20:03 - Aug 8 by Pencilpete |
I just want to add - I voted Labour at the last election even tho my political views are more to the right. Why did I vote Labour then you may ask …. Well the conservatives are absolutely useless and I felt Farage and Reform were too extreme in what they wanted to do - for example I think immigration levels are too high and unsustainable, do I want to stop immigration altogether? No i don’t because some immigrants are a good thing, they work hard they contribute to the economy and they do important jobs …. But do I want 700,000 a year and loads of unidentifiable men jumping off small boats by the thousand ? No I don’t
So i took a leap of faith that Starmer would do something about it. Now all I’m hearing from him and people on here that people with my views are far right racists. So what are the likes of me and I’m guessing other voters in my position going to do at the next election? We’ll go and it’s for Farage cos there is literally nothing else left to do to have our concerns taken seriously |
Nonsense. Noone is judging people concerned re immigration levels. Just that intimidating people, violent behaviour and generally following the path of hate is unacceptable and illegal.
If you think Reform with all their dog whistling, lies and sh1t stirring might be the party for you then Labour never was |  | | |
| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 20:48 - Aug 8 with 2556 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Lauren Edwards MP: chortle on 19:06 - Aug 8 by Pencilpete |
I can guarantee if this was a Reform MP who had said these things the responses on here would be a lot different…. |
They say far worse all the time | | | |
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