| Kalvin 14:57 - Aug 12 with 8936 views | Blooos |
Anyone saying no to this needs their head banging on a wall. This man was voted englands player of the year 3 years ago, 28 years old so not at the end of his career. Yes he’s on a big wage but we wouldn’t be paying all of it.. 100k a week over 12 months is less than £5m, he’d cost at least £20m to buy so for me if possible, it’s a no brainer. |  | | |  |
| Kalvin on 22:10 - Aug 12 with 1549 views | vilanovablue |
| Kalvin on 16:47 - Aug 12 by homer_123 |
His West Ham stint was a car crash - though somewhat predictable.
At Leeds under Bielsa, he was an integral player, nailed on starter and highly valued both as a player but also as person.
Going to City - he was never going to be that.
At West Ham - he was asked to play in a couple of positions and under a manager who has never really utilised a player of that type in the way Bielsa or Pep have.
Here, under KM, would be an environment much more akin to his time at Leeds where he thrived. Clearly there is no guarentee but we would be churlish not to be interested in such a player.
He is what we are looking for given Morsy and Luongo are getting towards the tail end of their career.
At 28, he has plenty of experience, knowledge and skills to bring. Comparing him to Dele Ali isn't fair at all, for lots of reasons. Also, a season or two of decent football here and he still has re-sale value but, moreover, if he rediscovers his form - he would be invaluable to a team like us.
I agree, he would be a risk but any signing is. It certainly isn't risk free but not as much a risk as many are making out. |
I'll be honest it is a risk, as was Tuanzebe and Williams. We're in a position where we have to take some risks. If we get 60% of Phillips in a Mckenna team it feels a brilliant solution for an aging midfield. He'd be eased in like Tuanzebe, I would like it to happen but sadly have my doubts. |  | | |
| Kalvin on 23:07 - Aug 12 with 1418 views | Coastalblue |
| Kalvin on 22:05 - Aug 12 by Help |
Would take him about 6 months to get to appropriate fitness levels. Not happening. Wrong attitude, overweight. |
Has he not just had a full preseason and been commended for it?
I think even with the risks it would be a quality signing, and if it came off would help push us to another level. A 70% version is streets ahead of what we've been watching, and what we've been watching has been pretty good. |  |
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| Kalvin on 23:15 - Aug 12 with 1374 views | Mookamoo |
| Kalvin on 16:56 - Aug 12 by NedPlimpton |
Agree that the Dele Ali comparison isn't fair, given Ali's struggles with mental health
There were noises about Phillip's attitude towards training at West Ham that would be a worry though
Let's see if it comes off. I'd definitely be excited to have him here but also nervous if it doesn't work out |
The comparison with Alli is perfectly fair. It wasn't until long after his Everton move his struggles came to light.
Phillips wasn't just bad at West Ham, he looked demotivated and uninterested. Yes, Alli had childhood trauma he struggled to process but there is something deeper going on with Phillips, not just him being unfit.
Perhaps working with McKenna would be what he needs rather than an abusive Guardiola. All will be lovely, but I'm not sure we have the luxury of time to find that out. |  | | |
| Kalvin on 23:18 - Aug 12 with 1368 views | Mercian |
He's a very good player who barely played when he went to City which was an unwise move. No defensive midfielder in the world is going to usurp Rodri who is outstanding. Having barely played he was thrown into the deep end at West Ham and sank. I think he would be good here. Reference his wages, he is not going to get anywhere near his City salary at any club. At 28 he is not finished and if he wants to revive his career for club and country he will take less. |  | | |
| Kalvin on 06:22 - Aug 13 with 1210 views | franz_tyson |
No way. Didn't play for 1 1/2 years and then had a nightmare stint at WH. Enough there to stay clear of an expensive disaster. If he is as good as some make out we wouldn't have a sniff. We have a sniff because he's tainted goods and bigger clubs see him as too much of a risk. | | | |
| Kalvin on 07:06 - Aug 13 with 1116 views | BlueBoots |
| Kalvin on 15:56 - Aug 12 by Blooos |
Some people have obviously let the recent success go to their head, saying no to someone of his calibre is mental. Hamer is a good player but he’s 5ft 7, with Morsy not being the tallest either we need some more height in the middle. |
Saying no to a CM because they're 5ft 7 is also mental - N'Golo Kante is 5ft 6
(Sticking up for my fellow shortarses) |  |
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| Kalvin on 08:35 - Aug 13 with 1024 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Kalvin on 16:47 - Aug 12 by homer_123 |
His West Ham stint was a car crash - though somewhat predictable.
At Leeds under Bielsa, he was an integral player, nailed on starter and highly valued both as a player but also as person.
Going to City - he was never going to be that.
At West Ham - he was asked to play in a couple of positions and under a manager who has never really utilised a player of that type in the way Bielsa or Pep have.
Here, under KM, would be an environment much more akin to his time at Leeds where he thrived. Clearly there is no guarentee but we would be churlish not to be interested in such a player.
He is what we are looking for given Morsy and Luongo are getting towards the tail end of their career.
At 28, he has plenty of experience, knowledge and skills to bring. Comparing him to Dele Ali isn't fair at all, for lots of reasons. Also, a season or two of decent football here and he still has re-sale value but, moreover, if he rediscovers his form - he would be invaluable to a team like us.
I agree, he would be a risk but any signing is. It certainly isn't risk free but not as much a risk as many are making out. |
Great post. |  |
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| Kalvin on 09:10 - Aug 13 with 932 views | tractorshark |
Kalvin Phillips is an upgrade on our central midfielders and I include Morsy in that.
He’s younger, has significant Prem experience and has performed well on a major international stage.
Yes he’s lost his way at City and his loan at West Ham ended up being one of those where everything that could go wrong did go wrong. But look what he’s got ahead of him at City, the bloke who was player of the tournament at Euro 2024.
100% there is a very good player there.
People questioning his ability are probably the same ones who would turn down Harry Maguire because he’s a social media scapegoat in favour of playing Burgess.
A funny meme on Twitter isn’t a scouting report.
The reality with Ipswich’s early transfer business is we have signed players with great potential and resale value but we do need some Prem/top level experience to stay up.
Unfortunately the reality with Phillips is his wage demands will be a huge stumbling block. | | | |
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| Kalvin on 09:39 - Aug 13 with 861 views | Ryorry |
| Kalvin on 09:10 - Aug 13 by tractorshark |
Kalvin Phillips is an upgrade on our central midfielders and I include Morsy in that.
He’s younger, has significant Prem experience and has performed well on a major international stage.
Yes he’s lost his way at City and his loan at West Ham ended up being one of those where everything that could go wrong did go wrong. But look what he’s got ahead of him at City, the bloke who was player of the tournament at Euro 2024.
100% there is a very good player there.
People questioning his ability are probably the same ones who would turn down Harry Maguire because he’s a social media scapegoat in favour of playing Burgess.
A funny meme on Twitter isn’t a scouting report.
The reality with Ipswich’s early transfer business is we have signed players with great potential and resale value but we do need some Prem/top level experience to stay up.
Unfortunately the reality with Phillips is his wage demands will be a huge stumbling block. |
Also, to add to your last para, whilst KM's obviously a big draw for younger players wanting to improve, or those with less experience than KP, he (McKenna) obviously isn't going to have so much pull for players like Phillips.
And whilst whether he'd prefer 'sleepy Suffolk' to London is an unknown, I suspect Fulham is his most likely destination. |  |
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| Kalvin on 09:42 - Aug 13 with 830 views | Bluefields |
| Kalvin on 15:22 - Aug 12 by Blooos |
He hadn’t played for months though prior to that, then chucked into the starting 11 at West Ham. He’s had a good pre-season for city and in a midfield pivot he is exactly what we need, very good passing range and good legs to get about the pitch. |
Hes been playing centre back in pre season and Pep has detailed why hes struggled in midfield receiving the ball facing his own goal | | | |
| Kalvin on 11:01 - Aug 13 with 744 views | Radlett_blue |
| Kalvin on 07:06 - Aug 13 by BlueBoots |
Saying no to a CM because they're 5ft 7 is also mental - N'Golo Kante is 5ft 6
(Sticking up for my fellow shortarses) |
"vertically challenged", please! |  |
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| Kalvin on 11:18 - Aug 13 with 657 views | FrankfurtBlue |
The best solution for us would be to take him on loan, with an option to buy. That way, if he turns out to be something of a dud, like he was at WHU, we don't get too burnt financially and he remains a Citeh player/problem. However, if he does succeed here, we get him at a sale price negotiated now when the seller wants rid and we are in a relatively strong position compared to how it could be at the end of a successful season. |  | | |
| Kalvin on 15:53 - Aug 13 with 480 views | BlueBoots |
| Kalvin on 11:01 - Aug 13 by Radlett_blue |
"vertically challenged", please! |
Apologies - meant no offence to those like myself who are "hard of reaching" | |
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