| 8xBet 09:43 - Sep 1 with 13708 views | Zx1988 |
I know at least one or two on here contacted the club about this particular sponsorship.
Did you get a response from the club? |  |
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| 8xBet on 14:49 - Sep 1 with 2743 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| 8xBet on 12:26 - Sep 1 by NeedhamChris |
You seem to be so excited to have another pop at people with addiction problems you're missing the point that the issue with 8xBet is more complicated than that.
Educate yourself |
Lol....no fekkin chance of that when he can retreat into his comfy place! |  |
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| 8xBet on 14:54 - Sep 1 with 2738 views | waveneyblue |
This seems to really be bothering you ? Does it really matter that much. They are all over the Premier League. |  | | |
| 8xBet on 18:39 - Sep 1 with 2600 views | BlueBadger |
| 8xBet on 14:54 - Sep 1 by waveneyblue |
This seems to really be bothering you ? Does it really matter that much. They are all over the Premier League. |
Didn''t your mum ever tell you 'but all the other kids are doing it' is a piss weak excuse for doing bad things? |  |
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| 8xBet on 18:47 - Sep 1 with 2573 views | Zx1988 |
| 8xBet on 14:54 - Sep 1 by waveneyblue |
This seems to really be bothering you ? Does it really matter that much. They are all over the Premier League. |
Not so much bothered as interested.
I knew that some people had contacted the club, and was interested to know what the club had said.
The p*ss-weak response of 'other clubs have done their due diligence, so we're sure they're okay' was broadly what I expected. | |
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| I saw someone smoking.... on 20:39 - Sep 1 with 2462 views | Hiphopopotamus |
| I saw someone smoking.... on 12:32 - Sep 1 by Bloots |
...a fag on Sir Alf Ramsey Way before the match yesterday.
And apparently they sell them in a shop near the ground too.
I'm gonna write a letter to the club.
"Yours in disgust, Dr Bloots" |
This is a very bad comparison. |  | | |
| 8xBet on 20:40 - Sep 1 with 2462 views | Hiphopopotamus |
| 8xBet on 12:41 - Sep 1 by textbackup |
Excited?
Weird old expression to use for a serious matter.
Research? I don’t need to, it’s not any concern of mine what they do. If the club were happy with them why doesn’t it matter to me? |
This is a very selfish view. | | | |
| 8xBet on 20:56 - Sep 1 with 2440 views | textbackup |
| 8xBet on 14:49 - Sep 1 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Lol....no fekkin chance of that when he can retreat into his comfy place! |
Comfy place being where I don’t get on my high horse over a sponsor that has no impact on my life at all?
Enough going on in the world that actually matters to consider before this. |  |
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| 8xBet on 20:57 - Sep 1 with 2433 views | textbackup |
Selfish 😂😂
Selfish is having a bonfire in the middle of the day when people have washing out, selfish isn’t not getting upset over a sponsor that the club are happy to have. It doesn’t impact my, or your, life | |
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| 8xBet on 21:40 - Sep 1 with 2400 views | waveneyblue |
| 8xBet on 18:39 - Sep 1 by BlueBadger |
Didn''t your mum ever tell you 'but all the other kids are doing it' is a piss weak excuse for doing bad things? |
Odd response. But then again it is you Mr Badger.
I just don't understand the fuss over something that is pretty insignificant in the bigger picture. | | | |
| 8xBet on 22:04 - Sep 1 with 2335 views | virginblue |
| 8xBet on 11:22 - Sep 1 by mutters |
I detest gambling being involved in sports and wish it would go the same way as smoking sponsorship. Money is not the be-all and end-all in life, the PL could easily earn money from other sources but they choose the easy path You're not allowed to advertise smoking around kids, so why does gambling get a pass? |
Obesity is a far bigger issue in society so are you going to write to the club and ask them to remove the sausage adverts? |  | | |
| 8xBet on 22:24 - Sep 1 with 2290 views | WestStanderLaLaLa |
| 8xBet on 21:40 - Sep 1 by waveneyblue |
Odd response. But then again it is you Mr Badger.
I just don't understand the fuss over something that is pretty insignificant in the bigger picture. |
Josimar, the investigative football journalists have linked them to human trafficking/enslavement. |  |
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| 8xBet on 23:24 - Sep 1 with 2240 views | Mark |
Thank you for raising this. It is disappointing. I am fed up of being bombarded with a constant stream of betting adverts during football matches. I feel sad for anyone who uses these sites, gets addicted and has their lives and the lives of their family affected. |  | | |
| 8xBet on 23:31 - Sep 1 with 2223 views | mutters |
| 8xBet on 22:04 - Sep 1 by virginblue |
Obesity is a far bigger issue in society so are you going to write to the club and ask them to remove the sausage adverts? |
I haven't written to the club about the gambling so not sure why I'd single out sausages.
Would I be happy with McDonalds emblazoned on our shirts? No. Same with alcohol. Same with tobacco. The Premier League and clubs all have a choice about who they partner with, it's just a shame they nearly always choose the money option. The hypocrisy of the League is unbelievable, they court gambling companies, draw them into the fold and then punish those players who get caught up in their web.
McDonalds sponsoring the Olympics up to 2020 was another ridiculous state of affairs. |  |
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| 8xBet on 07:42 - Sep 2 with 2068 views | Churchman |
When ground advertising first came in during I think the 1970s, it was all gambling, booze, smoking (Churchmans Grandees), Visionhire, Radio Rentals, cars and Rumbelows. No tofu or plant based products in sight! Phew!
Ok, I’m being a little facetious, but adverts did sort of reflect the time. Well, in 2024 booze and smoking have gone and rightly so. I believe gambling should be banned too, given the damage it causes and I’m sure one day it will be.
The club’s response referred to in this thread suggests they’ve ‘gone with it’. I’m guessing because it is a lot of money, given how many grounds they advertise at - I noticed it at at least one of the games yesterday. Do I like it? No. And if I was a director I’d vote against it.
But it is what it is and all part of the commercial circus around the professional game. And it is a bit of a circus. PL music, loud PA, cameras everywhere, little cardboard stands for the players to shake hands in front of. Advertising on everything everywhere. It’s how it is in 2024.
It’s a long way from Churchmans Grandees and a decade or two later people chucking complimentary Harris’ mini port pies into the crowd - not the finest idea as the Lino, players and anyone in range got them back! |  | | |
| I saw someone smoking.... on 07:50 - Sep 2 with 2053 views | Lord_Lucan |
| I saw someone smoking.... on 12:32 - Sep 1 by Bloots |
...a fag on Sir Alf Ramsey Way before the match yesterday.
And apparently they sell them in a shop near the ground too.
I'm gonna write a letter to the club.
"Yours in disgust, Dr Bloots" |
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| 8xBet on 08:11 - Sep 2 with 1958 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| 8xBet on 20:56 - Sep 1 by textbackup |
Comfy place being where I don’t get on my high horse over a sponsor that has no impact on my life at all?
Enough going on in the world that actually matters to consider before this. |
"Tears," "high horses".....you do a lot of projecting!
".....has no impact on my life at all." though sums you up quite well but yet here you are questioning people who have concerns beyond themselves, all very odd. | |
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| 8xBet on 08:22 - Sep 2 with 1941 views | Europablue |
| 8xBet on 11:22 - Sep 1 by mutters |
I detest gambling being involved in sports and wish it would go the same way as smoking sponsorship. Money is not the be-all and end-all in life, the PL could easily earn money from other sources but they choose the easy path You're not allowed to advertise smoking around kids, so why does gambling get a pass? |
Gambling is not the same as smoking.
Smoking is harmful to your health, whereas gambling is only a problem for a minority.
Is it time to ban fast food advertising? That is more harmful to children than gambling. | | | |
| 8xBet on 08:26 - Sep 2 with 1923 views | Europablue |
| 8xBet on 12:25 - Sep 1 by NedPlimpton |
Yeah, let's bring back smoking sponsors and booze logos on children's shirts too. Bloody woke nonsense innit |
It really wasn't that harmful to have Carlsberg on the Liverpool shirt now was it?!
We all grew up in that era and it didn't really harm us. Kids know that they aren't allowed to drink alcohol.
Are you going to ban adverts for adult things like cars, car insurance, and mortgages? | | | |
| 8xBet on 08:31 - Sep 2 with 1909 views | Europablue |
| 8xBet on 20:56 - Sep 1 by textbackup |
Comfy place being where I don’t get on my high horse over a sponsor that has no impact on my life at all?
Enough going on in the world that actually matters to consider before this. |
Absolutely, there is only so much bandwidth each of us has and it would be selfish of anyone to demand that you care about someone else's pet hate as much as they do. | | | |
| 8xBet on 08:37 - Sep 2 with 1898 views | Europablue |
| 8xBet on 07:42 - Sep 2 by Churchman |
When ground advertising first came in during I think the 1970s, it was all gambling, booze, smoking (Churchmans Grandees), Visionhire, Radio Rentals, cars and Rumbelows. No tofu or plant based products in sight! Phew!
Ok, I’m being a little facetious, but adverts did sort of reflect the time. Well, in 2024 booze and smoking have gone and rightly so. I believe gambling should be banned too, given the damage it causes and I’m sure one day it will be.
The club’s response referred to in this thread suggests they’ve ‘gone with it’. I’m guessing because it is a lot of money, given how many grounds they advertise at - I noticed it at at least one of the games yesterday. Do I like it? No. And if I was a director I’d vote against it.
But it is what it is and all part of the commercial circus around the professional game. And it is a bit of a circus. PL music, loud PA, cameras everywhere, little cardboard stands for the players to shake hands in front of. Advertising on everything everywhere. It’s how it is in 2024.
It’s a long way from Churchmans Grandees and a decade or two later people chucking complimentary Harris’ mini port pies into the crowd - not the finest idea as the Lino, players and anyone in range got them back! |
I'd be more radical and say that almost all advertising/marketing is inherently harmful. The basic concept of advertising is to create demand where there is none and is manipulative. It also adds to the price of the thing you are buying.
The one exception is when there is demand for something, but you don't know how to meet your need for a particular product or service. | | | |
| 8xBet on 08:58 - Sep 2 with 1843 views | mutters |
| 8xBet on 08:22 - Sep 2 by Europablue |
Gambling is not the same as smoking.
Smoking is harmful to your health, whereas gambling is only a problem for a minority.
Is it time to ban fast food advertising? That is more harmful to children than gambling. |
I wouldn't be happy with fast food as a club sponsor to answer your question. There are so many better choices that could be made, but of course they don't always pay as much sponsorship money.
Smoking is terrible for yourself and to those around you. Gambling/alcohol can be incredibly impactful not just to the user but also the people they surround.
Also when you've got a product which engages with a lot of children then you need to choose your sponsor/advertisers carefully. | |
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| 8xBet on 09:03 - Sep 2 with 1812 views | goperryrevs |
| 8xBet on 08:26 - Sep 2 by Europablue |
It really wasn't that harmful to have Carlsberg on the Liverpool shirt now was it?!
We all grew up in that era and it didn't really harm us. Kids know that they aren't allowed to drink alcohol.
Are you going to ban adverts for adult things like cars, car insurance, and mortgages? |
We can debate whether clubs / our club should have a sponsorship with gambling in general, and fine, people will have different opinions.
But what's missing the point is the concerns raised in this thread regarding this specific company, its murky ownership status and links with organised crime in Asia (including kidnapping, human trafficking and illegal betting). I'm grateful for those that have highlighted these concerns. Just google the playthegame.org investigative article and you can read about it.
It's easy to make a pithy put down comment about smoking or drinking or mortgages or whatever - again, that's for a debate about gambling sponsorship in general. But I find the concerns about 8xBet in particular alarming and would like better assurances from the club and its due diligence processes than just 'well, other clubs are sponsored by them'. That's not good enough. | | | |
| 8xBet on 09:08 - Sep 2 with 1782 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| 8xBet on 08:31 - Sep 2 by Europablue |
Absolutely, there is only so much bandwidth each of us has and it would be selfish of anyone to demand that you care about someone else's pet hate as much as they do. |
So your advice is not to care about that which doesn't affect you but do find time to care about putting down those that do? | |
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| 8xBet on 09:18 - Sep 2 with 1721 views | Europablue |
| 8xBet on 09:03 - Sep 2 by goperryrevs |
We can debate whether clubs / our club should have a sponsorship with gambling in general, and fine, people will have different opinions.
But what's missing the point is the concerns raised in this thread regarding this specific company, its murky ownership status and links with organised crime in Asia (including kidnapping, human trafficking and illegal betting). I'm grateful for those that have highlighted these concerns. Just google the playthegame.org investigative article and you can read about it.
It's easy to make a pithy put down comment about smoking or drinking or mortgages or whatever - again, that's for a debate about gambling sponsorship in general. But I find the concerns about 8xBet in particular alarming and would like better assurances from the club and its due diligence processes than just 'well, other clubs are sponsored by them'. That's not good enough. |
I totally get your perspective.
My comments were only about gambling companies in general. Most of them are preying on poor people, there are so many betting shops in deprived areas and they do profit from the vulnerable. Each one has to be taken on its own merits though. A little flutter on score is not harmful. I would be against banning betting kiosks in the ground and the golden gamble.
I'll take your word for it that that 8Xbet is dodgy. It's good to make others aware of the problem. I'm sorry to say that I don't have the energy or inclination to oppose this sponsorship or even look into it in detail. I certainly don't know enough about the company to support the sponsorship. | | | |
| 8xBet on 09:34 - Sep 2 with 1696 views | Europablue |
| 8xBet on 09:08 - Sep 2 by BanksterDebtSlave |
So your advice is not to care about that which doesn't affect you but do find time to care about putting down those that do? |
Disagreeing is not the same as putting someone down. If someone is demanding you care as much about something that they care about it is very self-centered.
I disagree that betting companies should be singled out and banned from being sponsors. I don't think alcohol should be banned as sponsors.
I agree with the people who are saying that the club should really look into this particular company and scrutinize their activities. If they are respectfully asking that people look into this company to know more about them, then good for them. When someone says "educate yourself" they are self-righteously and arrogantly demanding that you use your precious time to research a topic that is important to them and usually it is more of a demand for someone to agree with them. The phrase "educate yourself" is a signal that the person saying it can't be reasoned with anyway. | | | |
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