| Muric. A worry. Or not really? 17:32 - Sep 8 with 6737 views | FrimleyBlue |
I like the stats that come with Muric and it can't be forgotten that until Burnley got Trafford. Muric was their number 1 and they called upon him towards the end of season last year too.
But for a club that the last two seasons has been built on togetherness, working for each other and pretty much 0 issues, it's slightly concerning that our number 1 in the space of a month has come with injury, mistake galore ( man city) and then we hear of him being thrown out of his national team.
It's pretty much the only negative really in everything we've done bar not getting a third striker.. but does anyone have more knowledge on Muric on here as to what we've yet to see and why this sort of thing shouldn't be concerning for a side so set up on certain characteristics.. [Post edited 8 Sep 2024 18:16]
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| Muric. A worry. Or not really? on 09:06 - Sep 9 with 1431 views | JammyDodgerrr |
| Muric. A worry. Or not really? on 17:41 - Sep 8 by Dubtractor |
"mistakes galore".
FFS, he had a bad 20 minutes against Man City, when our whole team made a lot of mistakes, otherwise he played OK there, and was decent against Fulham.
And he had an injury that put him out of action for a few days.
Talk about being desperate to find negatives. |
And even in that City game, made a few very good saves, including an unreal one. Burnley cantered to the championship with him, they looked better when he came in last season. He just needs time and as ever, it's easy to write off a player immediately, especially as a GK. |  |
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| Muric. A worry. Or not really? on 11:53 - Sep 9 with 1268 views | baxterbasics |
I don't think he made more mistakes than a few others did v Man City, just being the 'keeper means they are instantly punished, consequential, and remembered. That's the burden of a keeper innit. |  |
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| Muric. A worry. Or not really? on 11:59 - Sep 9 with 1261 views | SE1blue |
If only he had been part of Roy Keane’s Ipswich…staying out and breaking the rules makes a team.
Could have helped Bajner organise a party too.
Fine margins. |  |
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| Muric. A worry. Or not really? on 12:09 - Sep 9 with 1234 views | Vic |
Your general point is OK - and I tend to agree with you. I suspect that KM and maybe MA will have some strong words with him because this clearly isn't the first time he's got himself into trouble.
But shame you spoil the post with your 'mistake galore' comment which just let's things get sidetracked. He simply hasn't done that; and even if he had it was his debut, against a Man city side that will take many sides to the cleaners this season. Get behind him and keep on supporting. Anything else is just a negative vibe which no one wants or needs. |  |
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| Muric. A worry. Or not really? on 13:20 - Sep 9 with 1148 views | HighgateBlue |
| Muric. A worry. Or not really? on 21:08 - Sep 8 by Alberto_the_frog |
It's not a national team. It's only recognised by 104 states. |
It may be recognised as an /independent state/ by that many states.
But that's 104 more than recognise Wales as an independent state, and it still has a national football team.
You don't have to be an independent state to be a member of FIFA or have an international team playing in FIFA tournaments. There are many examples, but one is French Guiana, which although in South America, is part of France and part of the EU. Yet it has its own national football team, a member of CONCACAF.
There are well over 200 national teams recognised by FIFA, but there are only 193 sovereign states which are members of the UN. |  | | |
| Muric. A worry. Or not really? on 13:36 - Sep 9 with 1135 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Muric. A worry. Or not really? on 12:09 - Sep 9 by Vic |
Your general point is OK - and I tend to agree with you. I suspect that KM and maybe MA will have some strong words with him because this clearly isn't the first time he's got himself into trouble.
But shame you spoil the post with your 'mistake galore' comment which just let's things get sidetracked. He simply hasn't done that; and even if he had it was his debut, against a Man city side that will take many sides to the cleaners this season. Get behind him and keep on supporting. Anything else is just a negative vibe which no one wants or needs. |
Tbh I'm bored of this whole it's negative we don't want or need to hear it.
It's a football forum not a samaratans conference ffs. | |
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| Muric. A worry. Or not really? on 13:43 - Sep 9 with 1113 views | MattinLondon |
| Muric. A worry. Or not really? on 13:36 - Sep 9 by FrimleyBlue |
Tbh I'm bored of this whole it's negative we don't want or need to hear it.
It's a football forum not a samaratans conference ffs. |
It’s not that we don’t want to hear anything presumed to be negative but questions about Muric’s temperament aren’t really based on anything substantial. Let’s give him a few more weeks before highlighting possible flaws.
I will say that MA has spoken about the due diligence which the club does on potential signings. I doubt whether we would have spent a lot on someone with a reputation of being a trouble maker. |  | | |
| Muric. A worry. Or not really? on 13:56 - Sep 9 with 1081 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Muric. A worry. Or not really? on 13:43 - Sep 9 by MattinLondon |
It’s not that we don’t want to hear anything presumed to be negative but questions about Muric’s temperament aren’t really based on anything substantial. Let’s give him a few more weeks before highlighting possible flaws.
I will say that MA has spoken about the due diligence which the club does on potential signings. I doubt whether we would have spent a lot on someone with a reputation of being a trouble maker. |
I don't think we would have either. It's just it does add a bit to why maybe Burnley got Trafford. From outside looking back at it it seemed a strange one.
Signed muric from man city. 41 games. 19 clean sheets. League gk of the season..
Replaced immediately by a gk who had played in league 1. Just an odd switch esp when both keepers had known gaffs in them.
Anyways. I didn't wanna spend more time on this I was just curious of people's thoughts yesterday. So I'll leave it there. | |
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| Muric. A worry. Or not really? on 14:04 - Sep 9 with 1045 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Muric. A worry. Or not really? on 13:36 - Sep 9 by FrimleyBlue |
Tbh I'm bored of this whole it's negative we don't want or need to hear it.
It's a football forum not a samaratans conference ffs. |
This place is becoming very polarised. You are either 100% behind everything in or around the club or you are against everything. There is no nuance.
I was listening to Joe and the boys on Blue Monday and they seemed to be able to discuss Muric in a grown up and reasonable manner. Likewise, the Blue Monday discussion group was able to have wide and varying views on the Muric dismissal without the sort of pile on we see here.
IMO, I think it's fair to discuss his character. This isn't the first time he's been sent home or a misdemeanor. Also, he hasn't got off to the best of starts. He's been very nervous on the ball, cost us a couple of goals against City (yeah he made a great save, but as Roy Keane would say "That's his job") and he was poor for Kosovo on Friday.
As Town fans, we all want him to do well. It's a key position that could be the difference between survival or relegation. But I don't see any issue in having a grown up discussion about our players. |  |
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| Muric. A worry. Or not really? on 14:15 - Sep 9 with 1018 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Muric. A worry. Or not really? on 14:04 - Sep 9 by GlasgowBlue |
This place is becoming very polarised. You are either 100% behind everything in or around the club or you are against everything. There is no nuance.
I was listening to Joe and the boys on Blue Monday and they seemed to be able to discuss Muric in a grown up and reasonable manner. Likewise, the Blue Monday discussion group was able to have wide and varying views on the Muric dismissal without the sort of pile on we see here.
IMO, I think it's fair to discuss his character. This isn't the first time he's been sent home or a misdemeanor. Also, he hasn't got off to the best of starts. He's been very nervous on the ball, cost us a couple of goals against City (yeah he made a great save, but as Roy Keane would say "That's his job") and he was poor for Kosovo on Friday.
As Town fans, we all want him to do well. It's a key position that could be the difference between survival or relegation. But I don't see any issue in having a grown up discussion about our players. |
There's absolutely nothing wrong with a grown-up discussion on a player's character but when you have Frimmers leading the charge you're going to be on dodgy ground. I doubt the Blue Monday team described him as having "mistakes galore" and that's the difference. If you're going to make comments like that you're going to get jumped on.
Frimmers has form for going OTT and people don't forget easily. |  |
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| Muric. A worry. Or not really? on 14:22 - Sep 9 with 1007 views | MattinLondon |
| Muric. A worry. Or not really? on 14:15 - Sep 9 by The_Flashing_Smile |
There's absolutely nothing wrong with a grown-up discussion on a player's character but when you have Frimmers leading the charge you're going to be on dodgy ground. I doubt the Blue Monday team described him as having "mistakes galore" and that's the difference. If you're going to make comments like that you're going to get jumped on.
Frimmers has form for going OTT and people don't forget easily. |
I’m also not seeing that much polarisation relating to this thread. It’s mostly (90% I would say) posters saying ‘lets wait and see’ regarding to his personality. Nothing more, nothing less. | | | |
| Muric. A worry. Or not really? on 14:24 - Sep 9 with 992 views | hype313 |
| Muric. A worry. Or not really? on 08:58 - Sep 9 by RobTheMonk |
Too early to say especially when the first two games were Liverpool and City.
I do think he's looked a bit indecisive with his decision making. But I think that's to be expected to some degree given the amount of new players.
Our league performance trajectory is going in the right direction. We looked more than capable against Fulham. Brighton will be an interesting one as they're a very well coached unit. |
And he didn't even play against Liverpool |  |
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| Muric. A worry. Or not really? on 14:29 - Sep 9 with 974 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Muric. A worry. Or not really? on 14:22 - Sep 9 by MattinLondon |
I’m also not seeing that much polarisation relating to this thread. It’s mostly (90% I would say) posters saying ‘lets wait and see’ regarding to his personality. Nothing more, nothing less. |
Yeah it's hardly a "pile on". | |
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| Muric. A worry. Or not really? on 14:34 - Sep 9 with 960 views | burnbudgiesburn |
He had a mare against City, no getting away from it. And at times he looked low of confidence as a result against Fulham kicking the ball out of touch a few times late on. However he did all the right things well enough in the Fulham game including a superb punch in the 2nd half from a whipped in free kick.
I honestly think he's actually a decent long ball passer but don't think he is anywhere near Hladkys level technically on the ball when playing short passes with the defence.
2 games is no sort of sample size to be making long term judgements/decisions on though. |  | | |
| Muric. A worry. Or not really? on 14:41 - Sep 9 with 939 views | MattinLondon |
| Muric. A worry. Or not really? on 14:34 - Sep 9 by burnbudgiesburn |
He had a mare against City, no getting away from it. And at times he looked low of confidence as a result against Fulham kicking the ball out of touch a few times late on. However he did all the right things well enough in the Fulham game including a superb punch in the 2nd half from a whipped in free kick.
I honestly think he's actually a decent long ball passer but don't think he is anywhere near Hladkys level technically on the ball when playing short passes with the defence.
2 games is no sort of sample size to be making long term judgements/decisions on though. |
He was probably guilty of trying too hard against City what with it being his old club. Hopefully he’ll become more relaxed and grow in confidence. | | | |
| Muric. A worry. Or not really? on 16:45 - Sep 9 with 816 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Muric. A worry. Or not really? on 14:22 - Sep 9 by MattinLondon |
I’m also not seeing that much polarisation relating to this thread. It’s mostly (90% I would say) posters saying ‘lets wait and see’ regarding to his personality. Nothing more, nothing less. |
Erm not quite. First replies were how I can't comment on a player without it being a wes burns situation..
Then the other replies were about me wrongly using mistake galore to describe his man city performance. Which I said tbf galore was a bit ott.
Not many actually mentioned his character which was basically the point of the OP and what we've obtained.
The more you look into the past the more you find out so it does put doubts in your mind.
Absolutely tho we can only wait and see. | |
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