| Man City players to go on strike... 16:03 - Sep 17 with 6260 views | Funge |
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/sep/17/rodri-players-close-to-striking
I mean, I can't think of too many players that have it worse than the Man City squad - this course of action would seem fully justified to me.
They have my full support; here's hoping that their working conditions and recompense are adjusted to reflect their terrible circumstances. |  | | |  |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 17:51 - Sep 17 with 1723 views | MK1 |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 17:33 - Sep 17 by MattinLondon |
Think the biggest mistake in modern day football was not allowing the European Super League to form. On the condition that they resign their place in their domestics leagues and not allowing their players to be considered for international duty.
Edit. I would allow players to see out their contracts before enforcing a ban. [Post edited 17 Sep 2024 17:49]
|
If the European Super League forms, their players mustn't be allowed to represent their Countries. They will of course, but they shouldn't be. Personally, I hope it doesn't happen. Would like the FA to regulate the top sides better and distribute the wealth better with some kind of legal caps in place. |  |
| |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 18:14 - Sep 17 with 1667 views | Churchman |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 16:24 - Sep 17 by BseaBlue |
I think the counter argument is meant to be that the game is faster and more athletic these days, plus the sports science, player welfare factored in etc.
I personally think the rubbish international friendlies and nations league are unnecessary. |
The counter argument to that is that Wark and co had to play on heavy pitches in heavy kit with a heavier ball. Tackling was allowed and if it snowed, the bezum sorted out the lines and out came the orange ball.
Man City and co want it all ways and for players on £1m plus a month, moaning about playing games doesn’t sit well with me.
I’m in favour of letting these clubs play in their little super league. I’m sure the faithful of Liverpool and co will adore what is essentially their exhibition games along with the pundit numpties.
There will always be a demand for professional football beyond the so called big clubs (something they don’t understand) and if that means salaries are reset to more sustainable levels, so be it. |  | | |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 18:20 - Sep 17 with 1651 views | BlueBadger |
In the words of Deep Thought from Hitch Hikers' Guide, who will that inconvenience? |  |
| |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 18:27 - Sep 17 with 1649 views | Hugoagogo_Reborn |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 18:14 - Sep 17 by Churchman |
The counter argument to that is that Wark and co had to play on heavy pitches in heavy kit with a heavier ball. Tackling was allowed and if it snowed, the bezum sorted out the lines and out came the orange ball.
Man City and co want it all ways and for players on £1m plus a month, moaning about playing games doesn’t sit well with me.
I’m in favour of letting these clubs play in their little super league. I’m sure the faithful of Liverpool and co will adore what is essentially their exhibition games along with the pundit numpties.
There will always be a demand for professional football beyond the so called big clubs (something they don’t understand) and if that means salaries are reset to more sustainable levels, so be it. |
This.
Would these players be prepared to receive a smaller salary for less games, I wonder?
I'm all for ensuring athletes playing in sports I enjoy are not flogged like work horses, but they can't also expect the insane salaries to continue,.if they reduce the workload.
Compromise needed. All of those competitions they think are excessive add to the clubs' wages pot, after all. |  | | |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 18:28 - Sep 17 with 1651 views | J2BLUE |
Perhaps someone should question Guardiola's use of subs.
Five unused over last four games. Haaland and De Bruyne subbed in 90th min against us when the game was long gone. |  |
| |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 18:29 - Sep 17 with 1649 views | MK1 |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 18:14 - Sep 17 by Churchman |
The counter argument to that is that Wark and co had to play on heavy pitches in heavy kit with a heavier ball. Tackling was allowed and if it snowed, the bezum sorted out the lines and out came the orange ball.
Man City and co want it all ways and for players on £1m plus a month, moaning about playing games doesn’t sit well with me.
I’m in favour of letting these clubs play in their little super league. I’m sure the faithful of Liverpool and co will adore what is essentially their exhibition games along with the pundit numpties.
There will always be a demand for professional football beyond the so called big clubs (something they don’t understand) and if that means salaries are reset to more sustainable levels, so be it. |
I think some are under estimating the pull the top 6 have. Man Utd are the best supported club in world football. Liverpool won't be far behind. Arsenal, Man City, Chelsea and Spurs also have massive followings. Without those clubs, the PL just won't be attractive to many, if any tv companies. Those 6 have more followers world wide than the rest of all the English clubs put together. (that last bit is an educated guess) | |
| |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 18:37 - Sep 17 with 1629 views | flykickingbybgunn |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 16:12 - Sep 17 by BseaBlue |
It would be slightly ironic wouldn't it.
Having said that, 63 games does sound a bit mad and 85 (albeit that could be exaggerated) is a cause for concern. I did wonder whether the footballing authorities will just increase the squad size quotas to appease clubs and keep the extra games so they dont lose out on the additional revenue.
Of course then you have more chance of your Chelsea's etc hoarding players. |
Did not Town play 68 games 80-81?
I remember 7 games within 15 days and two of them were semi-finals.
15 man squads.
1 Sub allowed.
Heavy pitches.
Heavier ball.
Now Citeh has a bunch of over paid of snowflakes the lot of them. |  | | |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 18:56 - Sep 17 with 1584 views | MK1 |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 18:14 - Sep 17 by Churchman |
The counter argument to that is that Wark and co had to play on heavy pitches in heavy kit with a heavier ball. Tackling was allowed and if it snowed, the bezum sorted out the lines and out came the orange ball.
Man City and co want it all ways and for players on £1m plus a month, moaning about playing games doesn’t sit well with me.
I’m in favour of letting these clubs play in their little super league. I’m sure the faithful of Liverpool and co will adore what is essentially their exhibition games along with the pundit numpties.
There will always be a demand for professional football beyond the so called big clubs (something they don’t understand) and if that means salaries are reset to more sustainable levels, so be it. |
Just did a very quick check and approximately 800 million follow the big 6 in the PL. That is roughly a 10th of the world's population.
Spurs 98M
Arsenal 99M
Chelsea 130M
Liverpool 132M
Man City 137M
Man Utd 204M [Post edited 17 Sep 2024 19:08]
| |
| |
Login to get fewer ads
| Man City players to go on strike... on 19:13 - Sep 17 with 1545 views | Dubtractor |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 18:37 - Sep 17 by flykickingbybgunn |
Did not Town play 68 games 80-81?
I remember 7 games within 15 days and two of them were semi-finals.
15 man squads.
1 Sub allowed.
Heavy pitches.
Heavier ball.
Now Citeh has a bunch of over paid of snowflakes the lot of them. |
Using our 80-81 season as a benchmark is odd, seeing as we missed out on 2 trophies because our players we facked. |  |
| |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 19:16 - Sep 17 with 1541 views | MK1 |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 19:13 - Sep 17 by Dubtractor |
Using our 80-81 season as a benchmark is odd, seeing as we missed out on 2 trophies because our players we facked. |
We were only allowed one sub though. (I think) | |
| |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 19:30 - Sep 17 with 1519 views | cressi |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 16:24 - Sep 17 by BseaBlue |
I think the counter argument is meant to be that the game is faster and more athletic these days, plus the sports science, player welfare factored in etc.
I personally think the rubbish international friendlies and nations league are unnecessary. |
Yes the game is faster but then they never played on Mersea beach travel on a old coach smocked 20 woodbine on the coach had fish and chips on the way back home. And had to header a medicine ball
But they do earn quarter a million a week poor old boys . |  | | |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 19:32 - Sep 17 with 1516 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 18:14 - Sep 17 by Churchman |
The counter argument to that is that Wark and co had to play on heavy pitches in heavy kit with a heavier ball. Tackling was allowed and if it snowed, the bezum sorted out the lines and out came the orange ball.
Man City and co want it all ways and for players on £1m plus a month, moaning about playing games doesn’t sit well with me.
I’m in favour of letting these clubs play in their little super league. I’m sure the faithful of Liverpool and co will adore what is essentially their exhibition games along with the pundit numpties.
There will always be a demand for professional football beyond the so called big clubs (something they don’t understand) and if that means salaries are reset to more sustainable levels, so be it. |
100% agree re your comment on the Super League.
If the big clubs want it.... fine, they can go, but can kiss goodbye to domestic football.
The rest of the clubs would thrive. [Post edited 17 Sep 2024 19:33]
|  |
| |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 19:34 - Sep 17 with 1511 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 18:56 - Sep 17 by MK1 |
Just did a very quick check and approximately 800 million follow the big 6 in the PL. That is roughly a 10th of the world's population.
Spurs 98M
Arsenal 99M
Chelsea 130M
Liverpool 132M
Man City 137M
Man Utd 204M [Post edited 17 Sep 2024 19:08]
|
Thats OK, they can take those 'fans' with them.
Its not a problem, just means a reset for the rest. Happy days. | |
| |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 20:23 - Sep 17 with 1460 views | surreyblue |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 19:30 - Sep 17 by cressi |
Yes the game is faster but then they never played on Mersea beach travel on a old coach smocked 20 woodbine on the coach had fish and chips on the way back home. And had to header a medicine ball
But they do earn quarter a million a week poor old boys . |
Counter-counter argument - the 1970s and early 80s were not exactly the pinnacle of player welfare and therefore shouldn't be held up as a comparison about why today's conditions are "absolutely fine the bloody pansies" | | | |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 20:46 - Sep 17 with 1407 views | flykickingbybgunn |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 19:16 - Sep 17 by MK1 |
We were only allowed one sub though. (I think) |
Yes they only had one sub allowed and that had of necessity to be a utility p!ayer like Roger Osbourne or Steve McCall who couldbe relied upon to reasonably play anywhere.
I seem to remember Roger even p!aying in goal. But if I am wrong I am sure somebody will correct me.
Different times.
The extra choices allowed now make for a better tactical game. | | | |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 20:48 - Sep 17 with 1400 views | gainsboroughblue |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 17:39 - Sep 17 by Esseeja |
This is getting boring. They already scrapped the FA Cup replays that were so lucrative to clubs like Lincoln when they beat us in the replay. They probably would not be where they are today without that replay and subsequent win.
the top 3 EFL leagues have 46 games in a season, 8 more than the PL, but that's the MINIMUM;
because if they finish in the play-offs, that's an extra 2 or 3 games that season.
League One and Two have a joke of a competition they have to compete in, that's, at minimum, an extra 3 games MINIMUM.
They also start in round 1 of the Carabao Cup, an extra game on top of that, MINIMUM.
League 1 and 2 clubs start the FA Cup 2 rounds earlier, that's an extra game MINIMUM.
That takes the total to 51 games, MINIMUM.
When Man City won the treble, they played 60 games.
Bolton, from league one, played 59 times that season. Keep in mind, however, that Manchester City have the squad depth that Bolton do not to play as many times as they do, as they keep progressing in these competitions.
The EFL Cup alone has only had 5 winners outside of the top 6 since 1999
The FA cup alone has only had 4 winners outside of the top 6 since 1989
Therefore, it's easy to conclude that the top teams are still progressing through these competitions with relative ease in recent years, most recent examples including using an almost entirely different 11 to their first team.
These complaints would make sense if they cared for the entire pyramid of English Football. They don't. We know they don't.
I agree that the UCL, UEL, and UECL changes are dumb, and that the Pizza trophy shouldn't really exist, but this is pathetic.
Born after it happened, but does anyone remember Man United withdrawing from the FA Cup? |
United played in the inaugural club world cup which clashed with an FA Cup weekend here. Would've been 99-00 and they were also defending champions.
I think it was the FA who pressurised United into it more than anything. It was the first time in a decade and a half that an English side had become Champions of Europe so it was probably decided to be a big thing to go out there and play the best of the rest (or in other words the best of South America).
There was quite a storm over it at the time. I seem to recall that year, the 3rd round games being played before Christmas as well, which certainly hasn't happened since. |  |
| |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 20:53 - Sep 17 with 1385 views | vapour_trail |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 16:43 - Sep 17 by itfcsuth |
Whilst I understand there is a lot of games, there is purpose to having 25 man squads, and when you can do it on obscene budgets it's always handy.
Ederson
Walker - Stones - Dias - Ake
De Bruyne - Rodri - Kovacic
Foden - Haaland - Doku
Ortega
Lewis - Stones - Akanji - Gvardiol
Silva - Gundogan - Nunes
Savinho - Haaland - Grealish
Almost two ridiculously good seperate teams. |
I’d be pissed off if I was Haaland. Playing in both XIs.
I’d go on strike if that was me. |  |
| |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 21:21 - Sep 17 with 1332 views | Churchman |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 19:34 - Sep 17 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Thats OK, they can take those 'fans' with them.
Its not a problem, just means a reset for the rest. Happy days. |
Agree MM. these clubs might have 100m supporters around the world. Great. Good luck to them getting a ticket in the Beijing ballot for the 4th Man City v Real Ale Madrid game of the season. I’m sure the shirt sales and Lineker will explode. Great. Marvellous. Like the Harlem Globetrotters, many will enjoy these show-games.
But do not forget that supported football amateur and professional proceeded the PL etc. Because it’s the greatest team game in the world. People watching Dartford enjoy it just as much as any PL team supporter and are the 40k following Sunderland are not there filling in time waiting for Chelsea? Of course not.
Competitive, professional football will survive the loss of the greedy few and possibly thrive. Let them toddle off, I say. | | | |
| Man City players to go on strike... on 17:16 - Sep 20 with 1099 views | Mark |
While I have little sympathy with players on eye-watering salaries, I do think there are far too many competitions being created such as the Nations' League, the Club World Cup and the UEFA Conference League.
I pay little attention to the UEFA Champions League now it is on TNT Sport, but this looks crazy: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/champions-league/table
There are too many matches, there is too much advertising, and it is all too expensive in my opinion (e.g. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cn0ldxngke2o ). |  | | |
| |
By continuing to use the site, you agree to our use of cookies and to abide by our Terms and Conditions.
