| Hutchinson 08:27 - Sep 22 with 3361 views | noggin |
Seen a few people saying he wasn't good enough yesterday. Admittedly I've only seen the highlights but it looked like he was involved in most of our chances. Did he do a lot wrong that obviously wasn't in the highlights?
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| Hutchinson on 08:40 - Sep 22 with 2941 views | MK1 |
Only, like others, is coming to terms with being in a much tougher league. He will be fine. |  |
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| Hutchinson on 08:47 - Sep 22 with 2876 views | Dubtractor |
He didn't have a bad game as such, but there were too many times where he made the wrong pass, or held the ball too long. He did still look like our most likely player to unlock things though, which will be why McKenna kept him on even when he looked at risk of a second yellow. |  |
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| Hutchinson on 09:01 - Sep 22 with 2789 views | badadski |
Not sure people are saying he was not good enough, he was fine and like others. It was just plenty of times he could have done better, I was just think it’s because in the position he is playing it so so tight, especially with southamptons press, he had no room to run into so was turning into blind alleys or taking the wrong option with his passing. I thought Southampton defended very well although a lot of errors were coming from their own sloppy passing out from the back but unfortunately for us they just about got away with it l, literally by cm’s of missing our man or a weak ref giving fouls when not namely the cajuste opportunity which was no worse that when muric got bullied off the ball against Man City.
So in regards to Hutchinson, it’s not that he isn’t good enough, he blatantly is and would stilll be one of my first selections, it’s just that I don’t think a 10 is suited to him for the league we now play in where no space is afforded to any one in that area. I am sure he will grow into the role but don’t like that we have specialist players for the 10 position who are effective but not playing there - namely szmodics or chappers who are on bench or pushed into left wing where they have proven to be ineffective such as szmodics 7 goals from the left in season he played there for Blackburn compared to 30 when he played centrally. |  | | |
| Hutchinson on 09:06 - Sep 22 with 2769 views | MK1 |
| Hutchinson on 09:01 - Sep 22 by badadski |
Not sure people are saying he was not good enough, he was fine and like others. It was just plenty of times he could have done better, I was just think it’s because in the position he is playing it so so tight, especially with southamptons press, he had no room to run into so was turning into blind alleys or taking the wrong option with his passing. I thought Southampton defended very well although a lot of errors were coming from their own sloppy passing out from the back but unfortunately for us they just about got away with it l, literally by cm’s of missing our man or a weak ref giving fouls when not namely the cajuste opportunity which was no worse that when muric got bullied off the ball against Man City.
So in regards to Hutchinson, it’s not that he isn’t good enough, he blatantly is and would stilll be one of my first selections, it’s just that I don’t think a 10 is suited to him for the league we now play in where no space is afforded to any one in that area. I am sure he will grow into the role but don’t like that we have specialist players for the 10 position who are effective but not playing there - namely szmodics or chappers who are on bench or pushed into left wing where they have proven to be ineffective such as szmodics 7 goals from the left in season he played there for Blackburn compared to 30 when he played centrally. |
They are young (mainly) and still getting use to the McKenna style of play. Hutchinson, as you say, needs to be wide right with Szmodics central 10. I am sure McKenna knows this and will bring it in, but at this stage, they are all learning about life at the top. (McKenna included) | |
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| Hutchinson on 09:40 - Sep 22 with 2628 views | ReusersTown |
The people saying he wasn't good enough are just the tw*ts to be honest. Far from his best game, still had an influence on the game and came close. | | | |
| Hutchinson on 09:41 - Sep 22 with 2611 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Hutchinson on 09:06 - Sep 22 by MK1 |
They are young (mainly) and still getting use to the McKenna style of play. Hutchinson, as you say, needs to be wide right with Szmodics central 10. I am sure McKenna knows this and will bring it in, but at this stage, they are all learning about life at the top. (McKenna included) |
I'm slightly puzzled though why KM isn't doing it if he knows it. |  |
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| Hutchinson on 09:49 - Sep 22 with 2581 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Hutchinson on 09:41 - Sep 22 by FrimleyBlue |
I'm slightly puzzled though why KM isn't doing it if he knows it. |
I agree Szmodics needs to be in his best position centrally, which would free up the left for J Clarke. The only thing I can think is that KM would prefer burns on the right to Omari because of his better defensive game. | | | |
| Hutchinson on 09:55 - Sep 22 with 2530 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Hutchinson on 09:49 - Sep 22 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
I agree Szmodics needs to be in his best position centrally, which would free up the left for J Clarke. The only thing I can think is that KM would prefer burns on the right to Omari because of his better defensive game. |
Think it's that fine line that will begin to get us wins or continue to make us hard to beat but lacking attacking threat.
I just can't see why we bother player Sammy on the left. | |
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| Hutchinson on 09:58 - Sep 22 with 2507 views | FrimleyBlue |
For me. Hutch is our mo salah
Watching the Liverpool highlights it makes it more obvious we need hutch to play that role. | |
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| Hutchinson on 10:01 - Sep 22 with 2478 views | mellowblue |
| Hutchinson on 09:49 - Sep 22 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
I agree Szmodics needs to be in his best position centrally, which would free up the left for J Clarke. The only thing I can think is that KM would prefer burns on the right to Omari because of his better defensive game. |
That is my read of it as well, Burns pace was the difference maker in league 1 and Championship but is not at Premier level. And he does not have the feet of say Clarke to get past defenders so has been nullified to an extent. He also misses Chaplin who he has a good understanding with. Tuenz is getting so reliable now that Burn's defensive work is not so vital. | | | |
| Hutchinson on 10:01 - Sep 22 with 2478 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Hutchinson on 09:58 - Sep 22 by FrimleyBlue |
For me. Hutch is our mo salah
Watching the Liverpool highlights it makes it more obvious we need hutch to play that role. |
We consistently look so much better and balanced as a team with a Burns or Ogbene type on the right though. If you play Omari on the right you need an attacking full back going past him to provide width. | | | |
| Hutchinson on 10:05 - Sep 22 with 2448 views | backwaywhen |
| Hutchinson on 09:41 - Sep 22 by FrimleyBlue |
I'm slightly puzzled though why KM isn't doing it if he knows it. |
It’s a shame we didn’t beat Wimbledon as a Newcastle this midweek would have been ideal to switch players around with nothing to lose as such . | | | |
| Hutchinson on 10:06 - Sep 22 with 2429 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Hutchinson on 10:01 - Sep 22 by tractorboy1978 |
We consistently look so much better and balanced as a team with a Burns or Ogbene type on the right though. If you play Omari on the right you need an attacking full back going past him to provide width. |
We brought johnson in to be that fullback.
I personally think KM is caught in a bit of a tough spot with best lineup personally.
I just think attacking wise we aren't getting the best out of two of our most dangerous players in hutch and szmodics. | |
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| Hutchinson on 10:15 - Sep 22 with 2386 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Hutchinson on 10:01 - Sep 22 by tractorboy1978 |
We consistently look so much better and balanced as a team with a Burns or Ogbene type on the right though. If you play Omari on the right you need an attacking full back going past him to provide width. |
He’ll also get half as much involvement as he does in the 10. I thought in the opening 3 games he was up there with our best performers, almost anything positive went through him. |  | | |
| Hutchinson on 10:15 - Sep 22 with 2383 views | TractorWood |
He didn't have a great game by his standards but was still central to everything and kept going and causing problems for Soton.
Speaks to his quality and threat when that is a bad game. |  |
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| Hutchinson on 10:17 - Sep 22 with 2368 views | TractorWood |
| Hutchinson on 10:01 - Sep 22 by mellowblue |
That is my read of it as well, Burns pace was the difference maker in league 1 and Championship but is not at Premier level. And he does not have the feet of say Clarke to get past defenders so has been nullified to an extent. He also misses Chaplin who he has a good understanding with. Tuenz is getting so reliable now that Burn's defensive work is not so vital. |
Burns stood out to me yesterday as a player pretty lost in what was being asked of him. He really wasn't involved in the game at all. | |
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| Hutchinson on 10:20 - Sep 22 with 2345 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Hutchinson on 10:15 - Sep 22 by _clive_baker_ |
He’ll also get half as much involvement as he does in the 10. I thought in the opening 3 games he was up there with our best performers, almost anything positive went through him. |
Yeah agreed. I think that 10 position, albeit being more right sided and drifting inside is his best position and biggest chance to influence games for us. | | | |
| Hutchinson on 10:34 - Sep 22 with 2273 views | Churchman |
| Hutchinson on 10:05 - Sep 22 by backwaywhen |
It’s a shame we didn’t beat Wimbledon as a Newcastle this midweek would have been ideal to switch players around with nothing to lose as such . |
I think you could argue it both ways. A competitive but meaningless game to switch players around would have been useful. Losing to Wimbledon was annoying too. It shouldn’t have happened even if we’d played the tea lady, kit washer and office staff. However, it could be argued that a week on the training pitch would be more valuable.
Hutchinson? Waste of space. That was my view at the start of last season. Didn’t last well. He was our most important player by season’s end. I can see the same thing happening this year - he’s very young with so much potential who knows what his limits are. That goes for a few of the players.
There is a bit of settling and fettling to do with that forward play; for players to find each other and where they can hurt the opposition the most. It’s not easy because it’s painfully obvious there are no easy teams to trample all over if you are at our level.
The league table? They never used to publish it until six games in when the world was in black and white. Sensible really as the season never really starts until October. Before that it’s just positioning unless you completely blow it hapless Hurst style. KMs post match comments, taking away the usual gloss managers put on things, was as ever on the money. He knows what he wants the players to do and clear leadership is half the battle.
The majority of the players will adjust, but not all, but I’m a bit with Keno on this. Aside from yesterday’s game I’ve yet to see back, I’ve seen enough that tells me we might be alright or even better than that when we settle down.
Hard old world, professional sport |  | | |
| Hutchinson on 10:42 - Sep 22 with 2238 views | DanTheMan |
| Hutchinson on 10:01 - Sep 22 by mellowblue |
That is my read of it as well, Burns pace was the difference maker in league 1 and Championship but is not at Premier level. And he does not have the feet of say Clarke to get past defenders so has been nullified to an extent. He also misses Chaplin who he has a good understanding with. Tuenz is getting so reliable now that Burn's defensive work is not so vital. |
I think he wasn't getting decent service yesterday. Those balls beyond the defender for him to start the foot race. |  |
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| Hutchinson on 10:52 - Sep 22 with 2198 views | Wallingford_Boy |
Clarke. Szcomdics. Hutch.
That’s the three behind Delap.
Simple. |  |
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| Hutchinson on 10:54 - Sep 22 with 2188 views | farkenhell |
| Hutchinson on 10:42 - Sep 22 by DanTheMan |
I think he wasn't getting decent service yesterday. Those balls beyond the defender for him to start the foot race. |
That's right. Also, I saw a couple of times when the play was congested on the left, Burns was completely free on the right and waving furiously, but on both occasions the ball came across much too slowly and after the Southampton defenders had the chance to shuffle across. | | | |
| Hutchinson on 11:10 - Sep 22 with 2120 views | FromReuserWithLove |
Yeh he was terrible yesterday but he's still our best player for sure. 20 and a year ago was a Chelsea youth player. |  | | |
| Hutchinson on 11:10 - Sep 22 with 2119 views | DJR |
He took a while to adjust at the start of last season, and I sense he is still adjusting to the greater speed and less space at this level. If last season is anything to go by, there's no reason to think he will not improve greatly as the season progresses. |  | | |
| Hutchinson on 11:45 - Sep 22 with 2003 views | cbower |
| Hutchinson on 08:47 - Sep 22 by Dubtractor |
He didn't have a bad game as such, but there were too many times where he made the wrong pass, or held the ball too long. He did still look like our most likely player to unlock things though, which will be why McKenna kept him on even when he looked at risk of a second yellow. |
Perfect summary of his perfomance. |  |
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| Hutchinson on 11:55 - Sep 22 with 1956 views | pointofblue |
| Hutchinson on 10:52 - Sep 22 by Wallingford_Boy |
Clarke. Szcomdics. Hutch.
That’s the three behind Delap.
Simple. |
The nagging thought is why did we bring in Ogbene though? If Hutchinson is a RW then we had cover in each position.
RW: Burns, Hutchinson
CM: Chaplin, Szmodics
LW: Broadhead, Clarke
The answer being Ogbene is more Burns like in style of play than Hutchinson which makes me think McKenna wants that style of player on the right. Hutchinson is slightly lighter in frame and doesn't have the same defensive attributes as Burns so I'm not sure if we're going to see him on the right much this season - at least from kick off.
The issue, as said, is Szmodics is being pushed to the left, into a position which really doesn't suit him and nullifies his natural game. He's better as a ten, and Clarke has looked good at LW. It almost feels like we want the best players on the pitch rather than the best team, and it is hindering us slightly. | |
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