| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations 22:28 - Oct 12 with 27619 views | Blue_Heath |
All gone quite now after tonight.
Where are you? Let's be having you!
Fabio was devastating tonight, really hope he can get a fight at Portman Road now. |  | | |  |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 13:31 - Oct 13 with 1417 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 13:26 - Oct 13 by gtsb1966 |
Nobody celebrated anyone getting physically injured. You've made that up. People were concerned for Clarke. What people celebrated was Wardley winning. |
Lol. Seriously. Have a look on socials. It's covered in various forms.
Cor. Look at that crack. Amazing what a punch that was. Look at the damage it caused.
What a powerhouse he is, clarke is fked look at him. A hole in his tempo. Go wardley.
Wardley. Makes the punch. Clearly can tell his opponent is injured. Walks away with arms in the air. Absolutely disgusting imo. Should be over the man checking he's OK if physical damage is NOT what you want to do to an opponent.
Saying ah I hope he's OK afterwards means nothing. |  |
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| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 13:38 - Oct 13 with 1399 views | gtsb1966 |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 13:31 - Oct 13 by FrimleyBlue |
Lol. Seriously. Have a look on socials. It's covered in various forms.
Cor. Look at that crack. Amazing what a punch that was. Look at the damage it caused.
What a powerhouse he is, clarke is fked look at him. A hole in his tempo. Go wardley.
Wardley. Makes the punch. Clearly can tell his opponent is injured. Walks away with arms in the air. Absolutely disgusting imo. Should be over the man checking he's OK if physical damage is NOT what you want to do to an opponent.
Saying ah I hope he's OK afterwards means nothing. |
I'm assuming then you don't like Wardley and would like his ITFC connection and sponsorship ended. |  | | |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 13:39 - Oct 13 with 1388 views | LittleBoyBlue1 |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 13:26 - Oct 13 by gtsb1966 |
Nobody celebrated anyone getting physically injured. You've made that up. People were concerned for Clarke. What people celebrated was Wardley winning. |
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| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 13:48 - Oct 13 with 1368 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 13:30 - Oct 13 by gtsb1966 |
The last paragraph...I get that. You don't like it and that's your choice. The rest though is ridiculous. |
Perhaps if we are banning anything we donât like, we could start with Frimleyâs posting.
Conflating controlled, regulated, rules based combat to unprovoked street violence is ridiculous. Every boxing gym Iâve been to teach respect, discipline and control.
These arenât people that are spending Saturday going out doing lines in PR toilets and starting fights with people. They are professional athletes, as well as thousands of disciplined and respectful amateurs around the country. [Post edited 13 Oct 2024 13:57]
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| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 13:56 - Oct 13 with 1343 views | ibbleobble |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 13:05 - Oct 13 by LittleBoyBlue1 |
Nobody has mentioned dying so why bother strawmanning so obviously? Chatting pure nonsense now.
The problem some of the higher thinkers have is one human beating the living poo-poo out of another and the institution glorifying and praising it.
Does that happen with any water based sports where these people you mentioned are drowning?
Not to mention drowning is probably accidental but death by boxing is likely not and is a result of the actual sport itself. |
Your simplistic view of a sport youâve never dared try is quite irritating and a little bit tabloid.
Hereâs the answer to your previous question in the hope it inspires others to not be so closed minded.
Boxing is an art form, a trade of fluid motions, a dance and rhythm like Tai Chi. Itâll give you an enormous sense of self confidence and lift your self-esteem immeasurably. Youâll learn to be more self-confident in yourself as a person and not to fear things in life as youâll become a more disciplined person with a skill that needs to be exercised with caution - your stress levels will decrease ten fold too. These attributes will carry through into your jobs or careers and your relationships.
If you dedicate yourself to the sport for a period of time, your physical and mental condition will both increase making you more alert, more attentive, providing you more vigour. The aches and pains will go both mentally and physically as your core strength increases and you become accustomed to large doses of dopamine, seratonin, oxytocin etc. Youâll sleep better, eat better and your life will become more structured. In short, youâll learn the art of respect.
I could go on but as you cited âdeathâ as a nonsense comparable when you in turn focus on âviolenceâ to build your argument, death being the extreme end of the spectrum, then thereâs probably little point having a serious discussion about it - youâre way out of your depth given youâve never boxed and wonât be able to hold a balanced debate. [Post edited 13 Oct 2024 13:59]
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| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 13:57 - Oct 13 with 1328 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 13:38 - Oct 13 by gtsb1966 |
I'm assuming then you don't like Wardley and would like his ITFC connection and sponsorship ended. |
There many sponsors across football that don't follow the moral code. So that's one for the club.
End of day tho. I myself may not approve of boxing but others do so I understand the sponsorship and the global reach so whilst I don't agree with it all myself I am well aware it's something I just have to accept and do of course unless I'm chatting about it like we have in this thread. | |
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| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 14:02 - Oct 13 with 1310 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 13:56 - Oct 13 by ibbleobble |
Your simplistic view of a sport youâve never dared try is quite irritating and a little bit tabloid.
Hereâs the answer to your previous question in the hope it inspires others to not be so closed minded.
Boxing is an art form, a trade of fluid motions, a dance and rhythm like Tai Chi. Itâll give you an enormous sense of self confidence and lift your self-esteem immeasurably. Youâll learn to be more self-confident in yourself as a person and not to fear things in life as youâll become a more disciplined person with a skill that needs to be exercised with caution - your stress levels will decrease ten fold too. These attributes will carry through into your jobs or careers and your relationships.
If you dedicate yourself to the sport for a period of time, your physical and mental condition will both increase making you more alert, more attentive, providing you more vigour. The aches and pains will go both mentally and physically as your core strength increases and you become accustomed to large doses of dopamine, seratonin, oxytocin etc. Youâll sleep better, eat better and your life will become more structured. In short, youâll learn the art of respect.
I could go on but as you cited âdeathâ as a nonsense comparable when you in turn focus on âviolenceâ to build your argument, death being the extreme end of the spectrum, then thereâs probably little point having a serious discussion about it - youâre way out of your depth given youâve never boxed and wonât be able to hold a balanced debate. [Post edited 13 Oct 2024 13:59]
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You basically just described a gym
Can you please enlighten me to where does it become healthy and better for your mental health to willingly go into a boxing match to punch the opponents face.
I'm all for as said earlier the fitness the training. The punching of sand filled bags. The speed balls what ever you call them lol... but where you lose me is the NEED in the punching of a face..
There nothing wrong with anything you wrote about the training and what it does for you physically and mentally.
But what is the need to punch and cause damage to a person's face. | |
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| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 14:05 - Oct 13 with 1309 views | LittleBoyBlue1 |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 13:56 - Oct 13 by ibbleobble |
Your simplistic view of a sport youâve never dared try is quite irritating and a little bit tabloid.
Hereâs the answer to your previous question in the hope it inspires others to not be so closed minded.
Boxing is an art form, a trade of fluid motions, a dance and rhythm like Tai Chi. Itâll give you an enormous sense of self confidence and lift your self-esteem immeasurably. Youâll learn to be more self-confident in yourself as a person and not to fear things in life as youâll become a more disciplined person with a skill that needs to be exercised with caution - your stress levels will decrease ten fold too. These attributes will carry through into your jobs or careers and your relationships.
If you dedicate yourself to the sport for a period of time, your physical and mental condition will both increase making you more alert, more attentive, providing you more vigour. The aches and pains will go both mentally and physically as your core strength increases and you become accustomed to large doses of dopamine, seratonin, oxytocin etc. Youâll sleep better, eat better and your life will become more structured. In short, youâll learn the art of respect.
I could go on but as you cited âdeathâ as a nonsense comparable when you in turn focus on âviolenceâ to build your argument, death being the extreme end of the spectrum, then thereâs probably little point having a serious discussion about it - youâre way out of your depth given youâve never boxed and wonât be able to hold a balanced debate. [Post edited 13 Oct 2024 13:59]
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That's all well and good but what's the added benefit of beating someone black and blue that Tai Chi, to use your example, can't give you?
It's quite impressive that you keep missing the point so spectacularly [Post edited 13 Oct 2024 14:06]
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| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 14:07 - Oct 13 with 1308 views | J2BLUE |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 13:20 - Oct 13 by FrimleyBlue |
No. You've got it right.
They are well trained. Train hard. Disciplined. Some of the best physical peaks a person can get in regards to fitness levels.
But in a world where bullies still exist. Kids are easily manipulated and tbh even people of all ages can be manipulated with ease. It's wrong as I say that people are celebrating a man causing physical injury to a face of an opponent and causing a cracked skull of some form.
For all the training. The wonderful hours spent getting fit. It's a shame its purpose is to help them cause physical injury to their opponent. |
I genuinely think a bully joining a boxing club would be positive. From the outside looking in they tend to teach discipline and respect. I can't imagine most clubs would do anything but intervene positively if one of their kids was found to be bullying someone. |  |
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| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 14:14 - Oct 13 with 1289 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 12:17 - Oct 13 by SouperJim |
Ipswich based boxer who publicly supports ITFC and promotes the club on a world stage, comprehensively destroys the opponent who had the cheek to parade himself around in a Norwich shirt at Portman Road, and the reaction of the TWTD navel gazing club? Give him pelters. Embarrassing.
Some of you really are a very strange breed of bed wetting buffoons. Get fooked. |
I think most people are reacting to an OP designed to bait people. Nobody was giving Wardley pelters about his win until this inflammatory thread. |  |
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| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 14:27 - Oct 13 with 1265 views | ibbleobble |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 14:05 - Oct 13 by LittleBoyBlue1 |
That's all well and good but what's the added benefit of beating someone black and blue that Tai Chi, to use your example, can't give you?
It's quite impressive that you keep missing the point so spectacularly [Post edited 13 Oct 2024 14:06]
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Isnât it you missing the point? Iâve just listed a tonne of benefits of which youâll only get a fraction of from Tai Chi. Those benefits far outweigh cuts and bruisesâŚof which you get very little of at white collar level, more as you go up the ranks.
If you really are that worried about a few scrapes on your skin then itâs exactly the reason you should learn boxing ie: so if in the event you ever are in an unfortunate position where you need to diffuse a situation, youâre equipped to do it rather than be in a dangerous predicament without the skills required to avoid the very thing youâre worried about.
Go and do some taster classes or one-to-one sessions on some pads. Youâll get it. | | | |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 14:35 - Oct 13 with 1243 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 14:27 - Oct 13 by ibbleobble |
Isnât it you missing the point? Iâve just listed a tonne of benefits of which youâll only get a fraction of from Tai Chi. Those benefits far outweigh cuts and bruisesâŚof which you get very little of at white collar level, more as you go up the ranks.
If you really are that worried about a few scrapes on your skin then itâs exactly the reason you should learn boxing ie: so if in the event you ever are in an unfortunate position where you need to diffuse a situation, youâre equipped to do it rather than be in a dangerous predicament without the skills required to avoid the very thing youâre worried about.
Go and do some taster classes or one-to-one sessions on some pads. Youâll get it. |
You can get all that from karate, without the head punches. | |
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| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 14:39 - Oct 13 with 1246 views | cressi |
The club got it wrong giving complementary tickets to so many for the Norwich game including Wardley. They should go to the fans who travel up and the down the country in all weather who work normal jobs.
But I'm far from knocking him it works out well for Fabio and ipswich. As for a fight here unlikely at the moment as he probably get x5 times the amount in Saudi. | | | |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 14:49 - Oct 13 with 1222 views | NeedhamChris |
Unless some ITFC players gatecrashed his celebrations in the ring - you haven't really thought this through Fabio. | |
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| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 14:52 - Oct 13 with 1212 views | Ryorry |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 14:27 - Oct 13 by ibbleobble |
Isnât it you missing the point? Iâve just listed a tonne of benefits of which youâll only get a fraction of from Tai Chi. Those benefits far outweigh cuts and bruisesâŚof which you get very little of at white collar level, more as you go up the ranks.
If you really are that worried about a few scrapes on your skin then itâs exactly the reason you should learn boxing ie: so if in the event you ever are in an unfortunate position where you need to diffuse a situation, youâre equipped to do it rather than be in a dangerous predicament without the skills required to avoid the very thing youâre worried about.
Go and do some taster classes or one-to-one sessions on some pads. Youâll get it. |
I get many of your points re discipline, fitness etc., but itâs the head injuries that are the concern isnât it - other sports are trying to reduce those nowadays. So can you please answer a question for me - why arenât head protectors used at pro level as well as amateur levels?
When I worked as a probation officer, one of my clients was a lovely old guy whoâd been a pro boxer, but who, as well as a cauliflower ear, had permanent brain damage as a result - itâs known as being chronically âpunch drunkâ, quite a common legacy of pro boxing I was told. |  |
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| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 14:57 - Oct 13 with 1193 views | LittleBoyBlue1 |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 14:52 - Oct 13 by Ryorry |
I get many of your points re discipline, fitness etc., but itâs the head injuries that are the concern isnât it - other sports are trying to reduce those nowadays. So can you please answer a question for me - why arenât head protectors used at pro level as well as amateur levels?
When I worked as a probation officer, one of my clients was a lovely old guy whoâd been a pro boxer, but who, as well as a cauliflower ear, had permanent brain damage as a result - itâs known as being chronically âpunch drunkâ, quite a common legacy of pro boxing I was told. |
He can't answer the simple question of "what does beating the sense out of someone provide in added benefit that any other martial art, or physical sport cannot"
I suspect he's had one too many boxing matches to be able to have a coherent conversation. [Post edited 13 Oct 2024 15:39]
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| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 15:14 - Oct 13 with 1164 views | leitrimblue |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 13:07 - Oct 13 by FrimleyBlue |
If it goes underground and people take part as you or maybe someone else said earlier. They have agreed to take part so that's on them. More fool them.
The difference is that it wouldn't be advertised. Wouldn't be broadcasted therefore not glorified to anyone.
Knife fights happen underground. Do you think they should be regulated? Doctors on standby., Ambulance waiting and advertised and broadcasted globally? That way at least it reduced the amount of underground fights? |
You have no issue with bareknuckle or country lane fighting where they 'have agreed to take part'?
Your only issue is with the advertising, broadcasting and 'glorifying' of the sport? |  | | |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 15:23 - Oct 13 with 1127 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 15:14 - Oct 13 by leitrimblue |
You have no issue with bareknuckle or country lane fighting where they 'have agreed to take part'?
Your only issue is with the advertising, broadcasting and 'glorifying' of the sport? |
I didn't say I've no issue with them. I don't agree with any of them. But the point was that boxing is regulated. Doctors present opponents have agreed to do it so there shouldn't be an issue with it. I disagree.
my point was all the underground stuff if it had a doctor present, was advertised etc would it suddenly become acceptable? No it wouldn't. so boxing in this day in age shouldn't be acceptable and should go to the underground's like the other 'sports' where the purpose is to hurt the opposition to win. | |
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| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 15:33 - Oct 13 with 1105 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 14:07 - Oct 13 by J2BLUE |
I genuinely think a bully joining a boxing club would be positive. From the outside looking in they tend to teach discipline and respect. I can't imagine most clubs would do anything but intervene positively if one of their kids was found to be bullying someone. |
Indeed J2. But couldn't That be achieved without the need to punch people in the head?
All that's been shared are the benefits seen of many local gyms. Boxercise classes in mine are great. I get to punch pads held up. I don't have a need to punch someone's face however. It's a great close group of people who help each other.
Or is there an unhealthy appetite in a need to punch people.
I 100% agree with all the health benefits listed within this thread. I agree that some of the local boxing gyms are great for people and a closeness of those involved in it together.
BUT no one has come up with the health benefits of punching someone in the head. Until they do then it's just a gym full of people with potential anger issues who have a disturbing need to punch people.
As said. Punch the pads. Punch the bags. Get out your frustrations that way. Brilliant. But don't shirk behind punching someone that it's a health benefit to do so. It isn't. | |
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| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 15:38 - Oct 13 with 1087 views | ibbleobble |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 14:52 - Oct 13 by Ryorry |
I get many of your points re discipline, fitness etc., but itâs the head injuries that are the concern isnât it - other sports are trying to reduce those nowadays. So can you please answer a question for me - why arenât head protectors used at pro level as well as amateur levels?
When I worked as a probation officer, one of my clients was a lovely old guy whoâd been a pro boxer, but who, as well as a cauliflower ear, had permanent brain damage as a result - itâs known as being chronically âpunch drunkâ, quite a common legacy of pro boxing I was told. |
Thereâs actually counter research to suggest head guards cause added injuries ie: impaired vision with a sweaty head guard that shifts about slightly restricting visibility on acute angles as well as being distracting. Personally, I never used them in sparring as I sweat a lot and found I was constantly realigning or adjusting it.
I also read some research stating that the added weight of head guards isnât natural to the head movement. In the event a knockout does occur, the head wonât naturally recoil giving it the best chance of protecting itself - I get the logic but know little else on it.
Many white collar events use extra padded gloves. Naturally this isnât possible at professional levels.
Thatâs the best knowledge I have but I only boxed at White Collar level. | | | |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 15:42 - Oct 13 with 1082 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 14:57 - Oct 13 by LittleBoyBlue1 |
He can't answer the simple question of "what does beating the sense out of someone provide in added benefit that any other martial art, or physical sport cannot"
I suspect he's had one too many boxing matches to be able to have a coherent conversation. [Post edited 13 Oct 2024 15:39]
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âI suspect he's had one too many boxing matches to be able to have a coherent conversationâ
Can we be sure itâs from boxing, I mean Frimley doesnât do combat sports and heâs hardly coherent? | | | |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 15:42 - Oct 13 with 1078 views | ibbleobble |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 14:57 - Oct 13 by LittleBoyBlue1 |
He can't answer the simple question of "what does beating the sense out of someone provide in added benefit that any other martial art, or physical sport cannot"
I suspect he's had one too many boxing matches to be able to have a coherent conversation. [Post edited 13 Oct 2024 15:39]
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Itâs not about âbeating the sense out of someoneâ, thatâs what Iâve been telling you but youâre failing to join the dots up. Being punched is a by product of boxing as is being kicked at kick boxing or grappled to the floor in Judo or wrestling. No boxer goes in with the intent of killing someone no matter all the camaraderie or trash talk.
Seems youâre letting your own prejudices and or fears cloud this discussion as your point has been very monotone and a little laboured. Whatâs the point of discussion on a forum if you just want an echo chamber? | | | |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 15:43 - Oct 13 with 1068 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 15:42 - Oct 13 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
âI suspect he's had one too many boxing matches to be able to have a coherent conversationâ
Can we be sure itâs from boxing, I mean Frimley doesnât do combat sports and heâs hardly coherent? |
You have zero knowledge whats happened in my life thank you. | |
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| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 15:46 - Oct 13 with 1059 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 15:42 - Oct 13 by ibbleobble |
Itâs not about âbeating the sense out of someoneâ, thatâs what Iâve been telling you but youâre failing to join the dots up. Being punched is a by product of boxing as is being kicked at kick boxing or grappled to the floor in Judo or wrestling. No boxer goes in with the intent of killing someone no matter all the camaraderie or trash talk.
Seems youâre letting your own prejudices and or fears cloud this discussion as your point has been very monotone and a little laboured. Whatâs the point of discussion on a forum if you just want an echo chamber? |
That is a nonsense set of comparisons. The whole aim of boxing is to hit someone hard enough in the head, that they fall over and lose consciousness. Sure, you can win on point,s but that is not what they want nor what the crowds are hoping for... | | | |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 15:50 - Oct 13 with 1039 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 15:42 - Oct 13 by ibbleobble |
Itâs not about âbeating the sense out of someoneâ, thatâs what Iâve been telling you but youâre failing to join the dots up. Being punched is a by product of boxing as is being kicked at kick boxing or grappled to the floor in Judo or wrestling. No boxer goes in with the intent of killing someone no matter all the camaraderie or trash talk.
Seems youâre letting your own prejudices and or fears cloud this discussion as your point has been very monotone and a little laboured. Whatâs the point of discussion on a forum if you just want an echo chamber? |
The purposes of boxing is to win.
To win you either get more points than opponent and by doing so you've made clean punches to the head.
The alternative is a knockout. If achieved its highly likely from a big blow to the head or quick successive punches. Perhaps even a naughty uppercut.
Either way. Boxes are walking into the ring to punch people in the head. They may not go into the match wanting to kill someone but they're not stupid to not know that they can cause harm by punching someone in the head. I don't understand how boxes enjoy it when they might not be killing them in the ring. But their shots to the head may contribute to an unhealthy future.
It's all rather bizarre why anyone would want to do this not only that but want to do this on Tele. | |
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