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Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 20:29 - Oct 13 by eireblue
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Didn't he used to support Man Utd? (n/t) on 21:13 - Oct 13 with 2399 views
Didn't he used to support Man Utd? (n/t) on 12:31 - Oct 13 by SouperJim
You know some people don't grow up with football or with an association to a particular team from birth. I didn't become an ITFC fan until I was in my late teens, if you'd asked me before that I'd probably tell you I supported Liverpool as that's who my brother liked. Season ticket for 25 years now, do I not count as a fan?
The bloke clearly supports ITFC now, so I don't see what the problem is. Just gatekeeping piffle from those who have already decided they don't like him.
25 years you say?
What a glory hunter, bet you regretted it during MEs reign of terror.
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Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 21:19 - Oct 13 with 2387 views
Evidently someone didn't get the memo about my sarcasm in my last comment. Good to be back!
Really trick thread to follow though as a lot of people on ignore. I think the gist of it is this.
Well done Fab! Onwards and upwards. Maybe it's time to move on from celebrations from 6 months ago or tickets 8 months ago. Anyone remotely criticising Fab would definitely not say it to his face.
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Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 09:56 - Oct 14 with 2205 views
Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 10:36 - Oct 13 by FrimleyBlue
There aren't that many no. But simply anything that glorifies violence should be in the bin.
As someone who is proud to call themselves an ex boxer- obviously I couldn’t disagree more but I’m not going to argue
A visit to a boxing gym would be a good place for you to visit to see how much they help In communities around the world. From helping with mental health, to physical help, to getting kids of the street and into an environment which teaches them self control and focus.
As someone who also played cricket, rugby and football - you may be surprised to learn I had far more injuries from those - than boxing
Boxing, fighting, aggression - isn’t for everyone and I get that - but some of your statements are just Laughable and completely unfounded
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Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 10:21 - Oct 14 with 2180 views
Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 09:56 - Oct 14 by smithy69
As someone who is proud to call themselves an ex boxer- obviously I couldn’t disagree more but I’m not going to argue
A visit to a boxing gym would be a good place for you to visit to see how much they help In communities around the world. From helping with mental health, to physical help, to getting kids of the street and into an environment which teaches them self control and focus.
As someone who also played cricket, rugby and football - you may be surprised to learn I had far more injuries from those - than boxing
Boxing, fighting, aggression - isn’t for everyone and I get that - but some of your statements are just Laughable and completely unfounded
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The elderly, punch-drunk, ex-pro boxer I met had enough cognition left to say that he wished he hadn’t chosen boxing as a career because of how it had left him.
Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 09:56 - Oct 14 by smithy69
As someone who is proud to call themselves an ex boxer- obviously I couldn’t disagree more but I’m not going to argue
A visit to a boxing gym would be a good place for you to visit to see how much they help In communities around the world. From helping with mental health, to physical help, to getting kids of the street and into an environment which teaches them self control and focus.
As someone who also played cricket, rugby and football - you may be surprised to learn I had far more injuries from those - than boxing
Boxing, fighting, aggression - isn’t for everyone and I get that - but some of your statements are just Laughable and completely unfounded
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You say all this... but again, I say karate offers all of this without the punches to the head.
Trust the process. Trust Phil.
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Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 10:32 - Oct 14 with 2155 views
Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 12:17 - Oct 13 by SouperJim
Ipswich based boxer who publicly supports ITFC and promotes the club on a world stage, comprehensively destroys the opponent who had the cheek to parade himself around in a Norwich shirt at Portman Road, and the reaction of the TWTD navel gazing club? Give him pelters. Embarrassing.
Some of you really are a very strange breed of bed wetting buffoons. Get fooked.
To clarify, I have nothing against Wardley. He was a bit cringe during the promotion celebrations, but I was too happy to care.
But this "Ipswich based boxer who publicly supports ITFC and promotes the club on a world stage" makes no sense. Wardley is not promoting Ipswich. Ipswich Town Football Club is vastly more famous and known than Wardley.
What happened was, Wardley needed a way to gain some traction, the best way to do that in boxing is to attach yourself to a football club. Ricky Hatton probably the prime example of this. Wardley wasn't a town fan growing up but was one when he started boxing. Which is actually very smart, full credit to him, he seems a nice chap. But he does not promote Ipswich town. Which is also why I can understand people being annoyed at him getting Norwich tickets.
Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 10:23 - Oct 14 by The_Flashing_Smile
You say all this... but again, I say karate offers all of this without the punches to the head.
You can keep telling them this, and so far everyone has been able to say how great boxing is without actually telling us what the added benefit of beating another man, breaking their jaw, and being celebrated for it, brings that other sports don't offer
It's becoming increasingly obvious that they can't understand the question or engage in a simple conversation. Probably from all the blows to the head tbf
Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 10:32 - Oct 14 by TRUE_BLUE123
To clarify, I have nothing against Wardley. He was a bit cringe during the promotion celebrations, but I was too happy to care.
But this "Ipswich based boxer who publicly supports ITFC and promotes the club on a world stage" makes no sense. Wardley is not promoting Ipswich. Ipswich Town Football Club is vastly more famous and known than Wardley.
What happened was, Wardley needed a way to gain some traction, the best way to do that in boxing is to attach yourself to a football club. Ricky Hatton probably the prime example of this. Wardley wasn't a town fan growing up but was one when he started boxing. Which is actually very smart, full credit to him, he seems a nice chap. But he does not promote Ipswich town. Which is also why I can understand people being annoyed at him getting Norwich tickets.
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He wears the badge at all his fights which is broadcast around the world. How is that not promotion?
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Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 10:52 - Oct 14 with 2117 views
Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 10:33 - Oct 14 by LittleBoyBlue1
You can keep telling them this, and so far everyone has been able to say how great boxing is without actually telling us what the added benefit of beating another man, breaking their jaw, and being celebrated for it, brings that other sports don't offer
It's becoming increasingly obvious that they can't understand the question or engage in a simple conversation. Probably from all the blows to the head tbf
Or it could be that they know I'm right and so are just ducking and diving from the question!
Trust the process. Trust Phil.
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Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 10:55 - Oct 14 with 2105 views
Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 10:52 - Oct 14 by The_Flashing_Smile
Or it could be that they know I'm right and so are just ducking and diving from the question!
It’s the difference between amateur (head guards, extra padded gloves) and professional (without those protections against brain damage) that are the issue I think, and he admitted in a reply to me earlier that he doesn’t really have the answers to that - but has carried on arguing generally with other people anyway - very defensive.
Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 11:06 - Oct 14 by Ryorry
It’s the difference between amateur (head guards, extra padded gloves) and professional (without those protections against brain damage) that are the issue I think, and he admitted in a reply to me earlier that he doesn’t really have the answers to that - but has carried on arguing generally with other people anyway - very defensive.
I think that’s in reference to me although I have a few folk on ignore so might be wrong. My point has been pretty consistent throughout and I’ve offered up lots of insights as reasoned debate about why there are significant upsides to boxing that shouldn’t be disregarded.
Some folk think boxing is violent, which is being voiced by those who have no experience of the sport as they take it on face value or bounce off anecdotal stories. Those on here who have done the sport offer a different narrative. Those who have done the sport surely must have more valid insight as they can offer a more representative, balanced view than those who haven’t.
My simple point is that boxing gives far more back to people and in my view, the upsides outweigh the downsides (obviously on scale, not anecdotes). But, I (we’ve) acknowledged, it’s not for everyone. It does strike me as odd that those who don’t do the sport are calling for change whereas those who do it think it’s best left as it is.
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Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 11:21 - Oct 14 with 2046 views
Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 11:21 - Oct 14 by TRUE_BLUE123
Absolutely nobody is watching a boxing fight, seeing a tiny badge on his shorts and then supporting Ipswich or buying merch
Ipswich town help Wardley, not the other way round. Very smart from him, but he does nit promote Ipswich.
Major brands sponsor boxers shorts and garb so you’re incorrect. That’s how endorsement works. Brand association, loyalty, affinity. You’ve said it yourself but in reverse…
Why buy Nike over Adidas? Why select supporting City over United if you’re an oversees foreign national?
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Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 11:48 - Oct 14 with 1964 views
Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 11:30 - Oct 14 by ibbleobble
Major brands sponsor boxers shorts and garb so you’re incorrect. That’s how endorsement works. Brand association, loyalty, affinity. You’ve said it yourself but in reverse…
Why buy Nike over Adidas? Why select supporting City over United if you’re an oversees foreign national?
It’s a nice link for the club but, right now, Fabio Wardley needs Ipswich Town far more than Ipswich Town need Fabio Wardley. And I’m happy to eat humble pie but I honestly don’t think that will change massively in the future. As I said before I have no issue with Wardley the boxer and I wish him well. But I do have an issue at the way he milked the promotion celebrations. The only song he could come up with at Norwich was Oh Fabio Wardley and standing in the team pic at Huddersfield and on the celebration bus afterwards was embarrassing. For me, that was ill advised. But he’ll argue it’s self promotion and he’s always been a Blue. I’ll argue he tweeted about being a Man United supporter and is the epitome of a glory-hunting fan. But it’s all about opinions. At least he can get his half and half scarf in a few weeks’ time.
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Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 11:57 - Oct 14 with 1909 views
Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 09:56 - Oct 14 by smithy69
As someone who is proud to call themselves an ex boxer- obviously I couldn’t disagree more but I’m not going to argue
A visit to a boxing gym would be a good place for you to visit to see how much they help In communities around the world. From helping with mental health, to physical help, to getting kids of the street and into an environment which teaches them self control and focus.
As someone who also played cricket, rugby and football - you may be surprised to learn I had far more injuries from those - than boxing
Boxing, fighting, aggression - isn’t for everyone and I get that - but some of your statements are just Laughable and completely unfounded
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Please do explain which parts are unfounded. I'm 100% open to having my mind changed on this subject. But you've mentioned again the boxing community. I've already agreed with the closeness of those within them. Very similar to normal gyms.
The difference is one groups gets a frill from punching someone whilst the others are happy with the health benefits of the work outs.
As an ex boxer. You should be in the best position to explain the health benefits of punching someone in the face and why this should continue to be seen as OK in the new world we live in where rightly some things have rightly been changed.
So yes again. 100% agree with your gym culture. I understand and appreciate it brings people off the streets.
But please explain why you HAVE to punch someone in the head over and over to have that culture. Could you not have the same joy by using the equipment you already use minus the persons head opposite you.
Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 11:48 - Oct 14 by tractorshark
It’s a nice link for the club but, right now, Fabio Wardley needs Ipswich Town far more than Ipswich Town need Fabio Wardley. And I’m happy to eat humble pie but I honestly don’t think that will change massively in the future. As I said before I have no issue with Wardley the boxer and I wish him well. But I do have an issue at the way he milked the promotion celebrations. The only song he could come up with at Norwich was Oh Fabio Wardley and standing in the team pic at Huddersfield and on the celebration bus afterwards was embarrassing. For me, that was ill advised. But he’ll argue it’s self promotion and he’s always been a Blue. I’ll argue he tweeted about being a Man United supporter and is the epitome of a glory-hunting fan. But it’s all about opinions. At least he can get his half and half scarf in a few weeks’ time.
Anyone, if offered to be on the bus, would say yes.
I don't know about this ill advised nonsense. He's a man taking the opportunities presented to him and some fans are a little miffed. I don't think that's damaged his stock at all so not sure how it was ill advised.
Secondly, there's plenty of people who one day in the foggy past might have called themselves a supporter of a premier league club. Yes it's glory hunting, but I'm actually glad local people are now supporting a local club and I'm not going to give him pelters for finally seeing the light. Maybe when we get relegated they'll have got the itfc bug and be a fan for life.
Do we want to grow the club and fan base or not?
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Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 12:02 - Oct 14 with 1880 views
Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 11:22 - Oct 14 by smithy69
You can kick to the head In karate and people have died from both tournament fights and obviously sparring in karate
Not sure you can say karate is safe. Same with many many martial arts
I didn't say karate is safe. Yes, you can kick to the head ...but that's just now and again, not as strong as a punch to the face, and not the whole point of the sport. Whilst there are obviously body jabs in boxing, the main aim is to punch your opponent in the head. With karate - or certainly the style I took part in - there weren't punches to the head, and the kicks would generally knock you off balance a bit, they wouldn't knock you out. They're less about power, more about point-scoring.
Trust the process. Trust Phil.
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Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 12:26 - Oct 14 with 1817 views
Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 11:48 - Oct 14 by tractorshark
It’s a nice link for the club but, right now, Fabio Wardley needs Ipswich Town far more than Ipswich Town need Fabio Wardley. And I’m happy to eat humble pie but I honestly don’t think that will change massively in the future. As I said before I have no issue with Wardley the boxer and I wish him well. But I do have an issue at the way he milked the promotion celebrations. The only song he could come up with at Norwich was Oh Fabio Wardley and standing in the team pic at Huddersfield and on the celebration bus afterwards was embarrassing. For me, that was ill advised. But he’ll argue it’s self promotion and he’s always been a Blue. I’ll argue he tweeted about being a Man United supporter and is the epitome of a glory-hunting fan. But it’s all about opinions. At least he can get his half and half scarf in a few weeks’ time.
Agreed but if we were in League One under Evans we’d probably be appreciative of the extra publicity and possibly the revenue if he fought at PR. Look at the value celebrity endorsement brought Wrexham.
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Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 12:28 - Oct 14 with 1817 views
Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 12:01 - Oct 14 by LittleBoyBlue1
Anyone, if offered to be on the bus, would say yes.
I don't know about this ill advised nonsense. He's a man taking the opportunities presented to him and some fans are a little miffed. I don't think that's damaged his stock at all so not sure how it was ill advised.
Secondly, there's plenty of people who one day in the foggy past might have called themselves a supporter of a premier league club. Yes it's glory hunting, but I'm actually glad local people are now supporting a local club and I'm not going to give him pelters for finally seeing the light. Maybe when we get relegated they'll have got the itfc bug and be a fan for life.
Do we want to grow the club and fan base or not?
I take all of that on board but do you genuinely believe if we get relegated the glory hunters will hang around? It didn’t happen in the 80s when I was first watching and it didn’t happen in the 90s and 00s either. And it hasn’t happened at most other clubs since. We might hang on to a percentage but more likely it’s going to be first-time fans from the past two years, not those who have just remembered they once took an interest in Ipswich. That said, yes I do want to grow the fanbase. I’m the complete opposite of those people who like to protect their comfortable closed shops. I appreciate I won’t be around for ever so it’s important we continue the lifeblood of the fans. And if people are getting their kids into Ipswich now, then I’m very pleased about that. But that’s not Fabio Wardley. Of course, every fan would want to be on the bus, would we be using that opportunity to try to grab the limelight or promote yourself? I very much doubt it. As for the question of foggy pasts and supporting other Premier League clubs, I don’t think I’ll ever agree with that. I don’t think that makes you a fan of either club. Maybe I’m a dinosaur, maybe people won’t agree but that’s just my opinion.
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Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 12:36 - Oct 14 with 1785 views
Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 12:26 - Oct 14 by ibbleobble
Agreed but if we were in League One under Evans we’d probably be appreciative of the extra publicity and possibly the revenue if he fought at PR. Look at the value celebrity endorsement brought Wrexham.
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Absolutely agree. That would be a situation where Wardley would offer something to Ipswich and the relationship would be more equal. At the moment it’s a nice link. If he gets a decent fight that could be staged at Portman Road, that would certainly benefit the club. But the way boxing is going I can’t see it. The Saudi cash is too lucrative for Wardley to turn down, even on the undercard. He’d have to be a world champion to fight at Portman Road and, even then, his promoters would or should be pushing for a bigger stadium or foreign venue. I don’t blame him for taking the biggest purse he can get.
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Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 12:44 - Oct 14 with 1763 views
Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 21:19 - Oct 13 by Reus30
Evidently someone didn't get the memo about my sarcasm in my last comment. Good to be back!
Really trick thread to follow though as a lot of people on ignore. I think the gist of it is this.
Well done Fab! Onwards and upwards. Maybe it's time to move on from celebrations from 6 months ago or tickets 8 months ago. Anyone remotely criticising Fab would definitely not say it to his face.
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