| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations 22:28 - Oct 12 with 27632 views | Blue_Heath |
All gone quite now after tonight.
Where are you? Let's be having you!
Fabio was devastating tonight, really hope he can get a fight at Portman Road now. |  | | |  |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 22:07 - Oct 15 with 1146 views | eireblue |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 21:22 - Oct 15 by ibbleobble |
Wouldn’t the best demonstration be that those who are cynics actually went and tried it rather than reading or waiting for second hand information to be persuaded otherwise? Nothing documented here will ‘prove’ otherwise. Isn’t that the fundamental thing we’re actually debating? |
No it is not what I am debating. It is evidence.
Whether I personally have tried anything is irrelevant. My experiences would just be my anecdotes to share.
And any experience I had, that I tried to use, would just be to use an appeal to authority fallacy.
You made an assertion, you need evidence.
People do study some of these things. |  | | |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 22:22 - Oct 15 with 1128 views | ibbleobble |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 22:07 - Oct 15 by eireblue |
No it is not what I am debating. It is evidence.
Whether I personally have tried anything is irrelevant. My experiences would just be my anecdotes to share.
And any experience I had, that I tried to use, would just be to use an appeal to authority fallacy.
You made an assertion, you need evidence.
People do study some of these things. |
Incorrect, it’s a forum - we’re debating opinions; anything scientific is second hand information lazily regurgitated very loosely to support a point. Quite frankly, it’s very lazy and means little in this median as qualifiable or quantifiable data is always open to conjecture.
My assertion is an opinion, not a scientific fact. I have given my opinion on the upsides, which have met with little in the way of opinion based on experience. Those who have experienced what I have mentioned uphold my view so therefore it’s over to those to offer a valued opinion based on experience or insight, not second hand information. Right? | | | |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 22:27 - Oct 15 with 1107 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 22:22 - Oct 15 by ibbleobble |
Incorrect, it’s a forum - we’re debating opinions; anything scientific is second hand information lazily regurgitated very loosely to support a point. Quite frankly, it’s very lazy and means little in this median as qualifiable or quantifiable data is always open to conjecture.
My assertion is an opinion, not a scientific fact. I have given my opinion on the upsides, which have met with little in the way of opinion based on experience. Those who have experienced what I have mentioned uphold my view so therefore it’s over to those to offer a valued opinion based on experience or insight, not second hand information. Right? |
I have experience of karate. It offers all you say without punches in the head. What do I win? |  |
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| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 22:29 - Oct 15 with 1106 views | LittleBoyBlue1 |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 22:22 - Oct 15 by ibbleobble |
Incorrect, it’s a forum - we’re debating opinions; anything scientific is second hand information lazily regurgitated very loosely to support a point. Quite frankly, it’s very lazy and means little in this median as qualifiable or quantifiable data is always open to conjecture.
My assertion is an opinion, not a scientific fact. I have given my opinion on the upsides, which have met with little in the way of opinion based on experience. Those who have experienced what I have mentioned uphold my view so therefore it’s over to those to offer a valued opinion based on experience or insight, not second hand information. Right? |
What utter nonsense. Just because it's a forum doesn't mean you can pass you can relentlessly tell us your half-baked opinions, yet still fail to answer the fundamental question:
What is the added benefit from actually punching an opponent in the head that no other sport can give you?
Maybe the only people that have experience love beating each other up and adore general violence, should we value their opinion higher just because they're spending their time beating each other up. Deary me | | | |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 22:32 - Oct 15 with 1102 views | eireblue |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 22:22 - Oct 15 by ibbleobble |
Incorrect, it’s a forum - we’re debating opinions; anything scientific is second hand information lazily regurgitated very loosely to support a point. Quite frankly, it’s very lazy and means little in this median as qualifiable or quantifiable data is always open to conjecture.
My assertion is an opinion, not a scientific fact. I have given my opinion on the upsides, which have met with little in the way of opinion based on experience. Those who have experienced what I have mentioned uphold my view so therefore it’s over to those to offer a valued opinion based on experience or insight, not second hand information. Right? |
Wrong, because then people get into a contest about whose experience is more valid.
My experience maybe different to yours.
Which is why objective evidence is needed. | | | |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 22:32 - Oct 15 with 1093 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 22:29 - Oct 15 by LittleBoyBlue1 |
What utter nonsense. Just because it's a forum doesn't mean you can pass you can relentlessly tell us your half-baked opinions, yet still fail to answer the fundamental question:
What is the added benefit from actually punching an opponent in the head that no other sport can give you?
Maybe the only people that have experience love beating each other up and adore general violence, should we value their opinion higher just because they're spending their time beating each other up. Deary me |
This is the person who told us "Being punched is a by-product of boxing" so I don't think you're going to get much in the way of logic from them. | |
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| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 22:41 - Oct 15 with 1090 views | WicklowBlue |
My one and only contribution to this thread aside from the tweet I shared.
Most contact sports are dangerous as Joe mentioned Rugby, American Football etc etc.
My boss in the US is freaking out about her son going all in American Football wise. However as similar posters shared he loves it and has the talent for it.
Growing up my brother chose rugby and I chose hockey.
Rugby has a lot of player safety concerns with better HIA protocols today. At the amateur level there have been several deaths in the sport over the years.
From my hockey experience (which I got pelters for in the 90s, girls game etc.) I've seen 2 broken jaws, teeth flying everywhere, broken legs etc. When I broke my metacarpal that was me done but have loads of scars from other injuries. I came home every weekend with blood everywhere and distinctly remember my mom saying you should play Rugby rather than hockey.
Now moving to football/soccer the concerns over repeatedly heading a ball, dislocations/ ACL/Achilles etc injuries are horrific and potentially career ending.
Not dismissing the concerns over boxing and injuries and life long consequences of such!
I wanted to say that all contact sports can cause same, let's not silo one particular sport. Critique yes but perspective is important. |  | | |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 22:58 - Oct 15 with 1052 views | Ryorry |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 21:22 - Oct 15 by ibbleobble |
Wouldn’t the best demonstration be that those who are cynics actually went and tried it rather than reading or waiting for second hand information to be persuaded otherwise? Nothing documented here will ‘prove’ otherwise. Isn’t that the fundamental thing we’re actually debating? |
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| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 23:12 - Oct 15 with 1023 views | Ryorry |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 22:22 - Oct 15 by ibbleobble |
Incorrect, it’s a forum - we’re debating opinions; anything scientific is second hand information lazily regurgitated very loosely to support a point. Quite frankly, it’s very lazy and means little in this median as qualifiable or quantifiable data is always open to conjecture.
My assertion is an opinion, not a scientific fact. I have given my opinion on the upsides, which have met with little in the way of opinion based on experience. Those who have experienced what I have mentioned uphold my view so therefore it’s over to those to offer a valued opinion based on experience or insight, not second hand information. Right? |
So despite the overwhelming evidence (including in the linked article & book I posted earlier) that repeated punching of the head during boxing training carries a high risk of permanent brain damage - the main reason most of us object to it - you want us to go & try out boxing so that we too can experience blows to the head & potential long term brain damage.
I don't have any words that will pass the swear filter for your 'logic'. | |
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| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 23:19 - Oct 15 with 1004 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 23:12 - Oct 15 by Ryorry |
So despite the overwhelming evidence (including in the linked article & book I posted earlier) that repeated punching of the head during boxing training carries a high risk of permanent brain damage - the main reason most of us object to it - you want us to go & try out boxing so that we too can experience blows to the head & potential long term brain damage.
I don't have any words that will pass the swear filter for your 'logic'. |
I'm confused
When I go to the gym tomorrow and I've had fun. Worked out well, feel the health benefits. Feel like my minds free and I feel mentally great. I greet those I meet and have a bit of banter with the regulars, do I need to ask them punch me so that I really feel the health benefits of boxing. |  |
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| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 07:16 - Oct 16 with 885 views | ibbleobble |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 23:12 - Oct 15 by Ryorry |
So despite the overwhelming evidence (including in the linked article & book I posted earlier) that repeated punching of the head during boxing training carries a high risk of permanent brain damage - the main reason most of us object to it - you want us to go & try out boxing so that we too can experience blows to the head & potential long term brain damage.
I don't have any words that will pass the swear filter for your 'logic'. |
😂 - haven’t we all just been saying the risk of getting any injury at white collar and amateur level is ridiculously low because of all the aforementioned reasons yet you read an article or study and take it as gospel because it’s a study done about brain damage - a very polarised side of the argument.
It’s your logic that’s skewed. If you’re seriously going to live your life based on study and second hand information, good luck to you. Quite frankly I find that incredibly dull. How about doing something and having a first hand opinion on it - that’s real insight of value to debate. Until then, your opinion carries less weight in the debate, unfortunately. Let me know when you do some sessions on the bag or pads and then we can talk again - this negates any risk of getting punched and gives you lots of upsides we’ve been telling you about. [Post edited 16 Oct 2024 7:38]
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| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 07:17 - Oct 16 with 882 views | ibbleobble |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 22:32 - Oct 15 by eireblue |
Wrong, because then people get into a contest about whose experience is more valid.
My experience maybe different to yours.
Which is why objective evidence is needed. |
But you don’t have any experience, that’s the point! | | | |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 07:32 - Oct 16 with 858 views | LittleBoyBlue1 |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 07:17 - Oct 16 by ibbleobble |
But you don’t have any experience, that’s the point! |
Good morning, shall I try again,
In your experience what additional benefit is to be gained from punching, or being punched, in the head? | | | |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 07:53 - Oct 16 with 850 views | eireblue |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 07:17 - Oct 16 by ibbleobble |
But you don’t have any experience, that’s the point! |
You don’t know what experience I have.
Where have I said I didn’t have experience? | | | |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 08:12 - Oct 16 with 827 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 07:16 - Oct 16 by ibbleobble |
😂 - haven’t we all just been saying the risk of getting any injury at white collar and amateur level is ridiculously low because of all the aforementioned reasons yet you read an article or study and take it as gospel because it’s a study done about brain damage - a very polarised side of the argument.
It’s your logic that’s skewed. If you’re seriously going to live your life based on study and second hand information, good luck to you. Quite frankly I find that incredibly dull. How about doing something and having a first hand opinion on it - that’s real insight of value to debate. Until then, your opinion carries less weight in the debate, unfortunately. Let me know when you do some sessions on the bag or pads and then we can talk again - this negates any risk of getting punched and gives you lots of upsides we’ve been telling you about. [Post edited 16 Oct 2024 7:38]
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Your argument is fallacious. | |
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| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 08:15 - Oct 16 with 826 views | LittleBoyBlue1 |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 07:16 - Oct 16 by ibbleobble |
😂 - haven’t we all just been saying the risk of getting any injury at white collar and amateur level is ridiculously low because of all the aforementioned reasons yet you read an article or study and take it as gospel because it’s a study done about brain damage - a very polarised side of the argument.
It’s your logic that’s skewed. If you’re seriously going to live your life based on study and second hand information, good luck to you. Quite frankly I find that incredibly dull. How about doing something and having a first hand opinion on it - that’s real insight of value to debate. Until then, your opinion carries less weight in the debate, unfortunately. Let me know when you do some sessions on the bag or pads and then we can talk again - this negates any risk of getting punched and gives you lots of upsides we’ve been telling you about. [Post edited 16 Oct 2024 7:38]
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So much wrong with this | | | |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 08:17 - Oct 16 with 824 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 22:41 - Oct 15 by WicklowBlue |
My one and only contribution to this thread aside from the tweet I shared.
Most contact sports are dangerous as Joe mentioned Rugby, American Football etc etc.
My boss in the US is freaking out about her son going all in American Football wise. However as similar posters shared he loves it and has the talent for it.
Growing up my brother chose rugby and I chose hockey.
Rugby has a lot of player safety concerns with better HIA protocols today. At the amateur level there have been several deaths in the sport over the years.
From my hockey experience (which I got pelters for in the 90s, girls game etc.) I've seen 2 broken jaws, teeth flying everywhere, broken legs etc. When I broke my metacarpal that was me done but have loads of scars from other injuries. I came home every weekend with blood everywhere and distinctly remember my mom saying you should play Rugby rather than hockey.
Now moving to football/soccer the concerns over repeatedly heading a ball, dislocations/ ACL/Achilles etc injuries are horrific and potentially career ending.
Not dismissing the concerns over boxing and injuries and life long consequences of such!
I wanted to say that all contact sports can cause same, let's not silo one particular sport. Critique yes but perspective is important. |
The thing is, with all those other sports the injuries are accidental. The aim is to win the ball/score a goal. With boxing you are literally aiming to punch your opponent in the head. The thing that causes the damage is the main part of it. | |
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| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 09:08 - Oct 16 with 779 views | ibbleobble |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 07:53 - Oct 16 by eireblue |
You don’t know what experience I have.
Where have I said I didn’t have experience? |
…because if you’ve got this far in a thread without offering any insight, you’d be an incredibly odd xter to now stump up insight.
I’m going to bail on this thread now for the sake of everyone else as we keep bumping it to the top.
As always with these discussions, they become non-sensical because of the median. The debate started with I saw many “upsides to boxing which outweighed the downsides”. Downsides was jumped on as brain damage and now I’m being asked to show source material to counter act that the upsides are greater than the downsides, which is a fundamentally flawed approach given the polarised position that’s been framed.
I cited mental health as an improvement but to compare the upsides of this to brain damage is quite frankly a ridiculous debate, which is what this is being turned into. Polarisation is so common in this forum and so weak from anyone who injects it. Looking at brain damage (an edge case) skews the original statement beyond the pale of rationale conversation. Yes it’s a downside but it’s such an edge case it’s an absurd logic to hold balanced discourse over as it’s incredibly emotive. Anyone thinking they’ll get brain damage stepping into a boxing gym has got some serious anxiety issues.
Also, anyone citing brain damage as a reason not to box or enter a boxing gym has already made their mind up so any source material to the contrary is actually futile. Find your own truth, that’s probably the best way to end this discussion. | | | |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 09:10 - Oct 16 with 778 views | Ryorry |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 07:16 - Oct 16 by ibbleobble |
😂 - haven’t we all just been saying the risk of getting any injury at white collar and amateur level is ridiculously low because of all the aforementioned reasons yet you read an article or study and take it as gospel because it’s a study done about brain damage - a very polarised side of the argument.
It’s your logic that’s skewed. If you’re seriously going to live your life based on study and second hand information, good luck to you. Quite frankly I find that incredibly dull. How about doing something and having a first hand opinion on it - that’s real insight of value to debate. Until then, your opinion carries less weight in the debate, unfortunately. Let me know when you do some sessions on the bag or pads and then we can talk again - this negates any risk of getting punched and gives you lots of upsides we’ve been telling you about. [Post edited 16 Oct 2024 7:38]
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You seem to have missed the bit of the article I linked that said "It is shattering yet tender as Dixon charts the history and science of CTE (chronic traumatic encephalopathy), a brain condition caused by repeated blows to the head."
If that's not enough for you, here's more - just a small sample of the numerous similar articles out there saying pretty much the same thing (the second link is a compilation/review of 84 other studies).
https://clinchgear.com/blogs/news/how-common-are-head-injuries-in-boxing
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10597432/ | |
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| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 09:25 - Oct 16 with 766 views | eireblue |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 09:08 - Oct 16 by ibbleobble |
…because if you’ve got this far in a thread without offering any insight, you’d be an incredibly odd xter to now stump up insight.
I’m going to bail on this thread now for the sake of everyone else as we keep bumping it to the top.
As always with these discussions, they become non-sensical because of the median. The debate started with I saw many “upsides to boxing which outweighed the downsides”. Downsides was jumped on as brain damage and now I’m being asked to show source material to counter act that the upsides are greater than the downsides, which is a fundamentally flawed approach given the polarised position that’s been framed.
I cited mental health as an improvement but to compare the upsides of this to brain damage is quite frankly a ridiculous debate, which is what this is being turned into. Polarisation is so common in this forum and so weak from anyone who injects it. Looking at brain damage (an edge case) skews the original statement beyond the pale of rationale conversation. Yes it’s a downside but it’s such an edge case it’s an absurd logic to hold balanced discourse over as it’s incredibly emotive. Anyone thinking they’ll get brain damage stepping into a boxing gym has got some serious anxiety issues.
Also, anyone citing brain damage as a reason not to box or enter a boxing gym has already made their mind up so any source material to the contrary is actually futile. Find your own truth, that’s probably the best way to end this discussion. |
“Wrong, because then people get into a contest about whose experience is more valid.
My experience maybe different to yours.
Which is why objective evidence is needed.
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If my position is that evidence is more important than anecdotes and opinions, the to get this far in a conversation and then try and use a fallacious argument would be odd, don’t you think?
You made an assertion. You have yet to demonstrate it is correct.
I haven’t mentioned brain damage once. ChatGPT did, I didn’t.
My view isn’t polarised, I was asking for evidence.
I would argue your view is polarised, “Find your own truth” is a statement that creates polarisation. | | | |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 09:25 - Oct 16 with 763 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 09:08 - Oct 16 by ibbleobble |
…because if you’ve got this far in a thread without offering any insight, you’d be an incredibly odd xter to now stump up insight.
I’m going to bail on this thread now for the sake of everyone else as we keep bumping it to the top.
As always with these discussions, they become non-sensical because of the median. The debate started with I saw many “upsides to boxing which outweighed the downsides”. Downsides was jumped on as brain damage and now I’m being asked to show source material to counter act that the upsides are greater than the downsides, which is a fundamentally flawed approach given the polarised position that’s been framed.
I cited mental health as an improvement but to compare the upsides of this to brain damage is quite frankly a ridiculous debate, which is what this is being turned into. Polarisation is so common in this forum and so weak from anyone who injects it. Looking at brain damage (an edge case) skews the original statement beyond the pale of rationale conversation. Yes it’s a downside but it’s such an edge case it’s an absurd logic to hold balanced discourse over as it’s incredibly emotive. Anyone thinking they’ll get brain damage stepping into a boxing gym has got some serious anxiety issues.
Also, anyone citing brain damage as a reason not to box or enter a boxing gym has already made their mind up so any source material to the contrary is actually futile. Find your own truth, that’s probably the best way to end this discussion. |
Are you an AI bot? You seem to throw in lots of big words but end up saying nothing of any substance. I suspect it's deliberate because you don't have an answer.
I've asked this several times but you still have failed to answer - what does boxing offer that martial arts don't (such as karate, that I do have experience of) ...but crucially without the need to punch in the head?!
ANSWER THE BLOODY QUESTION.
And no, "You can't say anything until you've been in a boxing gym" is not an answer. It's a quite obvious escape from having to answer. | |
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| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 09:32 - Oct 16 with 761 views | Ryorry |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 09:25 - Oct 16 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Are you an AI bot? You seem to throw in lots of big words but end up saying nothing of any substance. I suspect it's deliberate because you don't have an answer.
I've asked this several times but you still have failed to answer - what does boxing offer that martial arts don't (such as karate, that I do have experience of) ...but crucially without the need to punch in the head?!
ANSWER THE BLOODY QUESTION.
And no, "You can't say anything until you've been in a boxing gym" is not an answer. It's a quite obvious escape from having to answer. |
Who needs a boxing gym anyway - just debating with him feels like we've been bashing our heads against a brick wall  | |
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| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 09:35 - Oct 16 with 757 views | ibbleobble |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 09:10 - Oct 16 by Ryorry |
You seem to have missed the bit of the article I linked that said "It is shattering yet tender as Dixon charts the history and science of CTE (chronic traumatic encephalopathy), a brain condition caused by repeated blows to the head."
If that's not enough for you, here's more - just a small sample of the numerous similar articles out there saying pretty much the same thing (the second link is a compilation/review of 84 other studies).
https://clinchgear.com/blogs/news/how-common-are-head-injuries-in-boxing
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10597432/ |
What even is your argument? That being punched in the face has neurological side effects? I’ve never argued that’s not the case so what are you trying to prove? That’s bloody obvious.
What has a study about a small sample of amateur and professional boxers got to do with anyone at our level saying there are lots of upsides to the sport that outweigh the downsides? No-one on here is going to get anywhere close to that level bar a few. Stepping into a boxing gym doesn’t result in constant and consistent blows to the head as we’ve been repeatedly saying which continually falls on deaf ears as you have no experience of what we’re describing.
It’s hilarious how a bunch of lads on here scratch around for research to point to like they’re academics. Intellectualising something you have no first-hand knowledge of is hollow and that goes for any subject matter.
That second study was conducted on a sample of 631 amateur and professional boxers but doesn’t take into account anything about the upsides I’ve been referencing so using material like this completely polarises conversation yet you trot it out like a proof point. All you’re telling me here is what I acknowledged - there are downsides. If you want to have a proper debate and use source material, grab some stuff on the upsides too and then overlay that with the extreme end of things relevant to the specific people in these studies - that would give a true representation and balance to discussion if you want to go the academic route. | | | |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 10:09 - Oct 16 with 737 views | eireblue |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 09:35 - Oct 16 by ibbleobble |
What even is your argument? That being punched in the face has neurological side effects? I’ve never argued that’s not the case so what are you trying to prove? That’s bloody obvious.
What has a study about a small sample of amateur and professional boxers got to do with anyone at our level saying there are lots of upsides to the sport that outweigh the downsides? No-one on here is going to get anywhere close to that level bar a few. Stepping into a boxing gym doesn’t result in constant and consistent blows to the head as we’ve been repeatedly saying which continually falls on deaf ears as you have no experience of what we’re describing.
It’s hilarious how a bunch of lads on here scratch around for research to point to like they’re academics. Intellectualising something you have no first-hand knowledge of is hollow and that goes for any subject matter.
That second study was conducted on a sample of 631 amateur and professional boxers but doesn’t take into account anything about the upsides I’ve been referencing so using material like this completely polarises conversation yet you trot it out like a proof point. All you’re telling me here is what I acknowledged - there are downsides. If you want to have a proper debate and use source material, grab some stuff on the upsides too and then overlay that with the extreme end of things relevant to the specific people in these studies - that would give a true representation and balance to discussion if you want to go the academic route. |
You seem to have missed that nobody has dismissed that there are up sides.
All those upsides can be gained from activities that don’t have the addition risk that boxing does have.
You are asserting that additional risk is acceptable.
What is the additional upside you get, that outweighs the additional risk.
Your arguments make assumptions about the experience of posters that you have no knowledge of. | | | |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 10:25 - Oct 16 with 728 views | smithy69 |
| Seem to recall a lot of people bashing Fabio during promotion celebrations on 09:25 - Oct 16 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Are you an AI bot? You seem to throw in lots of big words but end up saying nothing of any substance. I suspect it's deliberate because you don't have an answer.
I've asked this several times but you still have failed to answer - what does boxing offer that martial arts don't (such as karate, that I do have experience of) ...but crucially without the need to punch in the head?!
ANSWER THE BLOODY QUESTION.
And no, "You can't say anything until you've been in a boxing gym" is not an answer. It's a quite obvious escape from having to answer. |
It’s been ignored 3 times. But in Karate you kick to the face/head :)
It’s hardly tidlywinks mate | | | |
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