| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? 12:35 - Nov 8 with 15226 views | itfcjoe |
If they want to retain power in 5 years time.....because the same playbook will be being used by the same people on the right of our politics.
- Don't go woke, don't lean too heavily into wokeness, DEI, etc. It just simply isn't what the majority of people want. If they want to try and fight a culture war they'll lose.
- Immigration has to be seen to be under control, whether it is or isn't
- There is a big misinformation and disinformation war going on, they need to get their generals in the game before they are too far behind to come back in this. What do they need to do to go up against the Steve Bannon's and Elon Musk's off the world.
- Give the working classes something to believe in, and that needs to come from the bottom up and not the top down. They have to respect the working classes, listen to them and not tell them why they are wrong, why they don't like them, why they are a constant let down to the bourgeoisie.
- Be fun, have a twinkle in their eye and a laugh at times. People like Angela Rayner manage it well, don't be so serious all the time.
Just spit balling, sure people will be along to tell me wrong I am soon! [Post edited 8 Nov 2024 12:37]
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| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 18:30 - Nov 9 with 718 views | redrickstuhaart |
| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 18:26 - Nov 9 by BlibbiBlob1976 |
There we have it! My paying more will make no difference to you paying less. But why should you have more than me? Far left thought process laid bare |
If you genuinely think that it is "far left" to think that luxuries should be taxed and that a functioning public services sector is important to the nation's welfare, then sure.
You paying more will allow a little more space to pay for essentials. And if you can afford private school for multiple children, is not about to put you on the breadline.
And its certainly not about envy, if that is what you are getting at. I am more than comfortable. Its about having some empathy, sense of fairness, and seeing the damage our broken systems are doing to society and individuals. |  | | |
| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 18:31 - Nov 9 with 714 views | positivity |
| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 18:30 - Nov 9 by BlibbiBlob1976 |
Where did I say I object to being taxed on profits? Are you referring to the increase in NIC contributions? That’s not tax on profits…. That’s tax on doing business. Would be a good idea for the NHS to look at improving efficiency, wouldn’t it? Public sector productivity is through the floor.
I haven’t made a profit for two years. Your lack of empathy is disturbing |
you said you were against taxing profit-making public schools.
how are you judging public sector productivity? sounds like yet another of your opinions presented as "facts" | |
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| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 18:33 - Nov 9 with 705 views | redrickstuhaart |
| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 18:31 - Nov 9 by positivity |
you said you were against taxing profit-making public schools.
how are you judging public sector productivity? sounds like yet another of your opinions presented as "facts" |
If he hasnt made a profit for two years, he has the previous government to blame, or his own business sense.
I also wonder how he has been paying school fees.
And why he thinks its okay for business owners to pay lower tax then everyone else via dividends? | | | |
| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 18:35 - Nov 9 with 697 views | positivity |
| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 18:30 - Nov 9 by BlibbiBlob1976 |
Where did I say I object to being taxed on profits? Are you referring to the increase in NIC contributions? That’s not tax on profits…. That’s tax on doing business. Would be a good idea for the NHS to look at improving efficiency, wouldn’t it? Public sector productivity is through the floor.
I haven’t made a profit for two years. Your lack of empathy is disturbing |
won't someone think of the business owners who can afford to live in affluent areas of london and send their children to public school?
have some empathy for the vast majority of people who can't dream of such luxuries, instead of demanding that their minimum wage shouldn't go up | |
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| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 18:35 - Nov 9 with 692 views | StokieBlue |
| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 18:26 - Nov 9 by BlibbiBlob1976 |
There we have it! My paying more will make no difference to you paying less. But why should you have more than me? Far left thought process laid bare |
Let's assume you're someone of greater means, why would you object to paying a bit more to fund improvements for all of society.
After all, you live in that society so they are improvements for you as well.
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| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 18:44 - Nov 9 with 673 views | redrickstuhaart |
| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 18:35 - Nov 9 by StokieBlue |
Let's assume you're someone of greater means, why would you object to paying a bit more to fund improvements for all of society.
After all, you live in that society so they are improvements for you as well.
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And your business will do better with healthy happy motivated staff... | | | |
| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 18:49 - Nov 9 with 652 views | BlibbiBlob1976 |
| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 16:25 - Nov 9 by positivity |
it really isn't though is it, most businesses i know are just happy to have grown-ups in charge after a decade of chaos, high inflation and incompetence.
they feel that they can plan for the future without the risk of a truss or a johnson wrecking things or making things up as they go along. |
I absolutely do not believe you for one second that “most businesses” are happy to have this Labour government in power. I do actually run a business, and deal with other business owners every day. I don’t know any that have a positive sentiment towards this government. Who are these businesses (SMEs) that are in favour of Labour? What sectors? I don’t believe you. | | | |
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| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 18:49 - Nov 9 with 644 views | GlasgowBlue |
| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 18:44 - Nov 9 by redrickstuhaart |
And your business will do better with healthy happy motivated staff... |
Could you answer my question please? |  |
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| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 18:52 - Nov 9 with 622 views | BlibbiBlob1976 |
| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 18:10 - Nov 9 by positivity |
low iq, eh? certainly sounding like the president-elect when faced with intellectual superiors, very much overcompensating! |
Took that out, actually. Agreed - too close to the bone for some on here | | | |
| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 18:52 - Nov 9 with 620 views | BlibbiBlob1976 |
| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 18:30 - Nov 9 by redrickstuhaart |
If you genuinely think that it is "far left" to think that luxuries should be taxed and that a functioning public services sector is important to the nation's welfare, then sure.
You paying more will allow a little more space to pay for essentials. And if you can afford private school for multiple children, is not about to put you on the breadline.
And its certainly not about envy, if that is what you are getting at. I am more than comfortable. Its about having some empathy, sense of fairness, and seeing the damage our broken systems are doing to society and individuals. |
What luxuries did I say should not be taxed? | | | |
| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 18:55 - Nov 9 with 609 views | BlibbiBlob1976 |
| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 18:31 - Nov 9 by positivity |
you said you were against taxing profit-making public schools.
how are you judging public sector productivity? sounds like yet another of your opinions presented as "facts" |
Private schools do not, in general, pay out profits to shareholders. It’s a very big distinction from profit making business. Education is not taxed in any EU country. Indeed, the ECHR would almost certainly call it discriminatory. It’s disgusting. It’s ideological. It’s cruel. I don’t see how anyone could argue against that | | | |
| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 18:55 - Nov 9 with 605 views | positivity |
| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 18:49 - Nov 9 by BlibbiBlob1976 |
I absolutely do not believe you for one second that “most businesses” are happy to have this Labour government in power. I do actually run a business, and deal with other business owners every day. I don’t know any that have a positive sentiment towards this government. Who are these businesses (SMEs) that are in favour of Labour? What sectors? I don’t believe you. |
my wife runs a business, i work for a business which was very much in favour of labour coming in and are generally very pro-employee. guessing you don't rate that highly on the "best places for people to work" lists?
well-run businesses that i'm aware of are in general happy for the chaos to be behind them, and to have some certainty about rules, regulations and funding for the next 5 years. | |
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| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 18:57 - Nov 9 with 593 views | BlibbiBlob1976 |
| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 18:33 - Nov 9 by redrickstuhaart |
If he hasnt made a profit for two years, he has the previous government to blame, or his own business sense.
I also wonder how he has been paying school fees.
And why he thinks its okay for business owners to pay lower tax then everyone else via dividends? |
I don’t particularly blame the previous government or my own business sense. I didn’t vote for the previous government, btw. I’m not a Tory, far from it. However, inflation and finance costs caused my business costs to almost triple in the last two years, and I lost most of the equity in the company that had taken me ten years to build up. You just gotta get up and go again though, eh!? | | | |
| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 18:58 - Nov 9 with 590 views | positivity |
| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 18:55 - Nov 9 by BlibbiBlob1976 |
Private schools do not, in general, pay out profits to shareholders. It’s a very big distinction from profit making business. Education is not taxed in any EU country. Indeed, the ECHR would almost certainly call it discriminatory. It’s disgusting. It’s ideological. It’s cruel. I don’t see how anyone could argue against that |
it's a discriminatory two tier system, allowing people with high funds to not have to mix with the average person.
of course it should be taxed like every other private business (if not more due to the anti-society messsage it delivers) | |
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| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 18:59 - Nov 9 with 585 views | BlibbiBlob1976 |
| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 18:35 - Nov 9 by positivity |
won't someone think of the business owners who can afford to live in affluent areas of london and send their children to public school?
have some empathy for the vast majority of people who can't dream of such luxuries, instead of demanding that their minimum wage shouldn't go up |
Minimum wage going up is not simply a question of John or Jane, who may work hard and deserve a pay rise, receiving a couple of pounds extra per hour, which they probably deserve. It’s rather an enormous additional and unbudgeted for extra cost for a company that may not be able to absorb it.
Your view is simplistic. You’re looking at the micro, not the macro. I get it, I get why. But it’s not an informed viewpoint [Post edited 9 Nov 2024 19:04]
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| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 19:01 - Nov 9 with 577 views | BlibbiBlob1976 |
| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 18:49 - Nov 9 by GlasgowBlue |
Could you answer my question please? |
All my staff have private medical insurance policies as an employee benefit | | | |
| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 19:02 - Nov 9 with 574 views | BlibbiBlob1976 |
| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 18:55 - Nov 9 by positivity |
my wife runs a business, i work for a business which was very much in favour of labour coming in and are generally very pro-employee. guessing you don't rate that highly on the "best places for people to work" lists?
well-run businesses that i'm aware of are in general happy for the chaos to be behind them, and to have some certainty about rules, regulations and funding for the next 5 years. |
Run a very small business with sub 10 employees. I’m not sure what sector ma you work in, but your views are not the views I encounter from SMEs in my sector. | | | |
| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 19:03 - Nov 9 with 569 views | BlibbiBlob1976 |
| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 18:58 - Nov 9 by positivity |
it's a discriminatory two tier system, allowing people with high funds to not have to mix with the average person.
of course it should be taxed like every other private business (if not more due to the anti-society messsage it delivers) |
Ok, mate. 👍 | | | |
| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 19:17 - Nov 9 with 525 views | Swansea_Blue |
Why do you think that might be? Why has public sector productivity increased more slowly than private sector productivity since just before the financial crisis? If you think it through you’ll see why there’s a variation. |  |
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| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 19:26 - Nov 9 with 503 views | BlibbiBlob1976 |
| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 19:17 - Nov 9 by Swansea_Blue |
Why do you think that might be? Why has public sector productivity increased more slowly than private sector productivity since just before the financial crisis? If you think it through you’ll see why there’s a variation. |
Tell us! | | | |
| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 19:29 - Nov 9 with 493 views | redrickstuhaart |
| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 18:52 - Nov 9 by BlibbiBlob1976 |
What luxuries did I say should not be taxed? |
Private school.
Next? | | | |
| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 19:32 - Nov 9 with 487 views | redrickstuhaart |
| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 18:59 - Nov 9 by BlibbiBlob1976 |
Minimum wage going up is not simply a question of John or Jane, who may work hard and deserve a pay rise, receiving a couple of pounds extra per hour, which they probably deserve. It’s rather an enormous additional and unbudgeted for extra cost for a company that may not be able to absorb it.
Your view is simplistic. You’re looking at the micro, not the macro. I get it, I get why. But it’s not an informed viewpoint [Post edited 9 Nov 2024 19:04]
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If you have a business paying minimum wage, and taking an income from the business excess of the minimum wage yourself, you are being significantly subsidised by the state. Your employees are almost all getting benefits just to be able to live, despite working full time. This needs to stop.
Of course, the fractional increase in minimum wage makes very little difference to small businesses. Its £100 a month. [Post edited 9 Nov 2024 19:35]
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| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 19:33 - Nov 9 with 484 views | BlibbiBlob1976 |
| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 19:29 - Nov 9 by redrickstuhaart |
Private school.
Next? |
It’s education. It’s not a luxury… 🙄 | | | |
| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 19:34 - Nov 9 with 483 views | redrickstuhaart |
| What do Labour need to learn from the US election? on 19:26 - Nov 9 by BlibbiBlob1976 |
Tell us! |
Because people are persistently paid less and asked to do more with each passing year, whilst dealing with under resourcing, poor facilities, poor IT and expected to deal with all that and soak up the slack. | | | |
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