| It's all kicking off at the 'we demand Clarkson pays less tax' demo, lads 11:30 - Nov 19 with 6519 views | BlueBadger |
Blimey.
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| It's all kicking off at the 'we demand Clarkson pays less tax' demo, lads on 11:55 - Nov 19 with 4324 views | giant_stow |
Greenpeace and Clarkson's not a team-up I ever expected to see. What a crazy world. |  |
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| It's all kicking off at the 'we demand Clarkson pays less tax' demo, lads on 12:02 - Nov 19 with 4284 views | BlueBadger |
| It's all kicking off at the 'we demand Clarkson pays less tax' demo, lads on 11:55 - Nov 19 by giant_stow |
Greenpeace and Clarkson's not a team-up I ever expected to see. What a crazy world. |
Clarkson's recent volte-face about climate change has got the biggest 'I don't think leopards would bite MY face off' energy since the Tory voting benefits claimant on QT complaining about her benefits being cut. | |
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| It's all kicking off at the 'we demand Clarkson pays less tax' demo, lads on 12:13 - Nov 19 with 4217 views | PhilTWTD |
"Eh? A what? It's a crop-sprayer, officer, honestly." |  | | |
| It's all kicking off at the 'we demand Clarkson pays less tax' demo, lads on 12:45 - Nov 19 with 4064 views | GlasgowBlue |
I bet the people who drew Trump or Putin in the "Who will start WW3" sweepstakes feel silly now.
It was always going to be Clarkson. |  |
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| It's all kicking off at the 'we demand Clarkson pays less tax' demo, lads on 12:54 - Nov 19 with 3992 views | Rocky |
I didn't realise we had so many millionaires in this country. |  | | |
| It's all kicking off at the 'we demand Clarkson pays less tax' demo, lads on 12:58 - Nov 19 with 3977 views | Ryorry |
Faster ways of getting the muck-spreading done were always on the cards now the old farmers can’t get their yoofs on the job. |  |
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| It's all kicking off at the 'we demand Clarkson pays less tax' demo, lads on 12:58 - Nov 19 with 3971 views | Bent_double |
| It's all kicking off at the 'we demand Clarkson pays less tax' demo, lads on 12:54 - Nov 19 by Rocky |
I didn't realise we had so many millionaires in this country. |
Nah, they've all left now we have a Labour government.
Haven't they? |  |
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| It's all kicking off at the 'we demand Clarkson pays less tax' demo, lads on 13:00 - Nov 19 with 3948 views | BlueBadger |
| It's all kicking off at the 'we demand Clarkson pays less tax' demo, lads on 12:58 - Nov 19 by Bent_double |
Nah, they've all left now we have a Labour government.
Haven't they? |
I heard that Angela Rayner was planning on going round and personally kicking them all in the böllocks. | |
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| It's all kicking off at the 'we demand Clarkson pays less tax' demo, lads on 13:08 - Nov 19 with 3891 views | Lakenheath_Blue |
You'll all be complaining when the only things left on the supermarket shelves will be Avocado's, Cous-Cous, Quinoa, and Tofu........
.........maybe not |  |
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| It's all kicking off at the 'we demand Clarkson pays less tax' demo, lads on 13:12 - Nov 19 with 3846 views | BlueBadger |
| It's all kicking off at the 'we demand Clarkson pays less tax' demo, lads on 13:08 - Nov 19 by Lakenheath_Blue |
You'll all be complaining when the only things left on the supermarket shelves will be Avocado's, Cous-Cous, Quinoa, and Tofu........
.........maybe not |
*Avocados | |
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| It's all kicking off at the 'we demand Clarkson pays less tax' demo, lads on 13:20 - Nov 19 with 3787 views | Rocky |
I thought the Tories disapproved of protests? They seem quite keen on this one. | | | |
| It's all kicking off at the 'we demand Clarkson pays less tax' demo, lads on 13:21 - Nov 19 with 3788 views | Zx1988 |
I'm surprised that Clarkson has got the nerve to show up and be one of the lead speakers at the demo, given that it's millionaires like him who bought farms in order to exploit the IHT loophole that are mostly to blame for the Government's decision to change the regime.
If I was a farmer, I'd be pelting him with manure the moment he stepped onto the stage. |  |
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| It's all kicking off at the 'we demand Clarkson pays less tax' demo, lads on 13:24 - Nov 19 with 3745 views | itfcjoe |
| It's all kicking off at the 'we demand Clarkson pays less tax' demo, lads on 13:20 - Nov 19 by Rocky |
I thought the Tories disapproved of protests? They seem quite keen on this one. |
They also are all for 'Free Speech' until it is something they disagree with |  |
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| It's all kicking off at the 'we demand Clarkson pays less tax' demo, lads on 13:26 - Nov 19 with 3713 views | BlueBadger |
| It's all kicking off at the 'we demand Clarkson pays less tax' demo, lads on 13:20 - Nov 19 by Rocky |
I thought the Tories disapproved of protests? They seem quite keen on this one. |
Amazed they're not calling for mass jail sentences for blocking all the roads up. | |
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| It's all kicking off at the 'we demand Clarkson pays less tax' demo, lads on 13:37 - Nov 19 with 3642 views | Ryorry |
| It's all kicking off at the 'we demand Clarkson pays less tax' demo, lads on 13:21 - Nov 19 by Zx1988 |
I'm surprised that Clarkson has got the nerve to show up and be one of the lead speakers at the demo, given that it's millionaires like him who bought farms in order to exploit the IHT loophole that are mostly to blame for the Government's decision to change the regime.
If I was a farmer, I'd be pelting him with manure the moment he stepped onto the stage. |
Does seem a pretty stupid choice to have him as spokesman, guess it evens up the stupidity on both sides though. Can’t believe the levels of ignorance around from those not in the farming community, but you’d have expected a Labour cabinet to at least do some homework - and stick to their pre-election promises.
Is farming and food production on UK school’s curriculum? Education, education, education. [Post edited 19 Nov 2024 13:40]
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| It's all kicking off at the 'we demand Clarkson pays less tax' demo, lads on 13:40 - Nov 19 with 3615 views | MattinLondon |
| It's all kicking off at the 'we demand Clarkson pays less tax' demo, lads on 13:26 - Nov 19 by BlueBadger |
Amazed they're not calling for mass jail sentences for blocking all the roads up. |
As much as I sympathise with climate change activist that isn’t a fair comparison as the farmers protest was planned allowing police to close roads and make alternative routes known. The climate change activists who block roads do those actions without informing the police etc.
Saying that I don’t see why farmers shouldn’t be taxed the same as other family businesses. |  | | |
| It's all kicking off at the 'we demand Clarkson pays less tax' demo, lads on 13:44 - Nov 19 with 3565 views | Ryorry |
| It's all kicking off at the 'we demand Clarkson pays less tax' demo, lads on 13:40 - Nov 19 by MattinLondon |
As much as I sympathise with climate change activist that isn’t a fair comparison as the farmers protest was planned allowing police to close roads and make alternative routes known. The climate change activists who block roads do those actions without informing the police etc.
Saying that I don’t see why farmers shouldn’t be taxed the same as other family businesses. |
“Saying that I don’t see why farmers shouldn’t be taxed the same as other family businesses.”
Great - I agree - other businesses aren’t charged any IHT on their business assets! | |
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| It's all kicking off at the 'we demand Clarkson pays less tax' demo, lads on 13:50 - Nov 19 with 3524 views | Zx1988 |
Hopefully not a stupid question, as I know nothing about IHT law, but...
What is stopping farmers from employing the age-old IHT-dodge of just sticking everything in a trust for the benefit of their kids? | |
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| It's all kicking off at the 'we demand Clarkson pays less tax' demo, lads on 13:57 - Nov 19 with 3473 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| It's all kicking off at the 'we demand Clarkson pays less tax' demo, lads on 13:50 - Nov 19 by Zx1988 |
Hopefully not a stupid question, as I know nothing about IHT law, but...
What is stopping farmers from employing the age-old IHT-dodge of just sticking everything in a trust for the benefit of their kids? |
There are loads of ways round it if they care to look... and it only affects a small proportion of farms anyway, way less than the farming body are saying. They're just trying to protect their own, which is fair enough - that's their job. |  |
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| It's all kicking off at the 'we demand Clarkson pays less tax' demo, lads on 13:58 - Nov 19 with 3463 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| It's all kicking off at the 'we demand Clarkson pays less tax' demo, lads on 12:45 - Nov 19 by GlasgowBlue |
I bet the people who drew Trump or Putin in the "Who will start WW3" sweepstakes feel silly now.
It was always going to be Clarkson. |
LOL, I like how 2 weeks ago you had a go at me for joking about Clarkson, and here you are doing the same! | |
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| It's all kicking off at the 'we demand Clarkson pays less tax' demo, lads on 14:01 - Nov 19 with 3420 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| It's all kicking off at the 'we demand Clarkson pays less tax' demo, lads on 13:37 - Nov 19 by Ryorry |
Does seem a pretty stupid choice to have him as spokesman, guess it evens up the stupidity on both sides though. Can’t believe the levels of ignorance around from those not in the farming community, but you’d have expected a Labour cabinet to at least do some homework - and stick to their pre-election promises.
Is farming and food production on UK school’s curriculum? Education, education, education. [Post edited 19 Nov 2024 13:40]
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They've done their homework... and have decided owning a £1m+ farm shouldn't be a tax dodge.
I'm not surprised Clarkson's miffed, that was exactly his plan. | |
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| It's all kicking off at the 'we demand Clarkson pays less tax' demo, lads on 14:13 - Nov 19 with 3305 views | Ryorry |
| It's all kicking off at the 'we demand Clarkson pays less tax' demo, lads on 14:01 - Nov 19 by The_Flashing_Smile |
They've done their homework... and have decided owning a £1m+ farm shouldn't be a tax dodge.
I'm not surprised Clarkson's miffed, that was exactly his plan. |
We had our argument about this a few days ago on similar thread, no point in both of us wasting our time having the same argument again.
I just wish city dwellers with no knowledge of the reality for farmers & the rural community would go educate themselves - better still, go and live on a small/medium family farm for a month - if you/they were to do that & genuinely didn't consequently change your/their minds, I'd donate £50 to a charity of your/their choice.
*Edited for grammar [Post edited 19 Nov 2024 14:15]
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| It's all kicking off at the 'we demand Clarkson pays less tax' demo, lads on 14:23 - Nov 19 with 3230 views | Illinoisblue |
Time to rewatch Stewart Lee’s bit about who he hates most from Top Gear |  |
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| It's all kicking off at the 'we demand Clarkson pays less tax' demo, lads on 14:24 - Nov 19 with 3217 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| It's all kicking off at the 'we demand Clarkson pays less tax' demo, lads on 14:13 - Nov 19 by Ryorry |
We had our argument about this a few days ago on similar thread, no point in both of us wasting our time having the same argument again.
I just wish city dwellers with no knowledge of the reality for farmers & the rural community would go educate themselves - better still, go and live on a small/medium family farm for a month - if you/they were to do that & genuinely didn't consequently change your/their minds, I'd donate £50 to a charity of your/their choice.
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Yep, I was careful with my words because I don't want to get into another row or upset you, but for whatever reasons you've still failed to respond to the evidence and are just repeating what you feel.
Also, it's rather patronising to say city dwellers can't possibly understand (and we should go live on a farm for a month). I appreciate farming is a hard life and the profits aren't great for many. It's a vocation of love rather than a money making scheme (unless you're Clarkson). But we do have the ability to digest the facts. I listened to BBC Verify this morning on the radio, and I'm pretty confident the government are right on this (much closer to it than the farmer's union).
None of this diminishes what farmers do, that's rather beside the point. | |
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| It's all kicking off at the 'we demand Clarkson pays less tax' demo, lads on 14:43 - Nov 19 with 3127 views | Ryorry |
| It's all kicking off at the 'we demand Clarkson pays less tax' demo, lads on 14:24 - Nov 19 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Yep, I was careful with my words because I don't want to get into another row or upset you, but for whatever reasons you've still failed to respond to the evidence and are just repeating what you feel.
Also, it's rather patronising to say city dwellers can't possibly understand (and we should go live on a farm for a month). I appreciate farming is a hard life and the profits aren't great for many. It's a vocation of love rather than a money making scheme (unless you're Clarkson). But we do have the ability to digest the facts. I listened to BBC Verify this morning on the radio, and I'm pretty confident the government are right on this (much closer to it than the farmer's union).
None of this diminishes what farmers do, that's rather beside the point. |
The only thing that upsets me is injustice, or people getting their facts wrong; or getting/presenting an incomplete/partial version of the facts.
DEFRA, one branch of govt., actually opposes the Cabinet on this. Their figures are entirely different, also a fact.
Which is why I suggested you go and talk with people actually experiencing the reality, rather than getting it second-hand from the media. [Post edited 19 Nov 2024 14:45]
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