| Defence.. 09:27 - Dec 26 with 2975 views | Wallingford_Boy |
Surely time for Greaves to come back in.
He was our standout defender before injury, Burgess has done well in his absence and deserves his place, O’Shea has done ok and can also play right back, Leif is Leif.
Am I being too simplistic, but why not -
O’Shea, Greaves, Burgess, Leif?
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| Defence.. on 09:53 - Dec 26 with 2870 views | lazyblue |
Yes bring him back in now for rest of season |  | | |
| Defence.. on 10:09 - Dec 26 with 2794 views | redrickstuhaart |
Perhaps because O'Shea is not a full back and Greaves is not a right sided CB? | | | |
| Defence.. on 10:15 - Dec 26 with 2777 views | Zx1988 |
Discussed this with a couple of chums at the Newcastle game.
It feels as if it's another symptom of the step-up in quality between EFL and EPL - injured players can't simply come back in and hit the ground running. The gulf between fit and match fit is phenomenal. It almost feels as if it's preferable to have a match fit 'lesser' player in the side, than bring in a better player who needs time to get back up to speed.
It's almost as if a secondary league is needed, that would allow returning players to get back up to speed. You could get a combination of geographically contiguous clubs, and give them the opportunity to field players otherwise held in reserve. No idea what you'd call it, though. | |
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| Defence.. on 10:17 - Dec 26 with 2759 views | muhrensleftfoot |
Or play a back 3 of O’Shea, Greaves and Burgess. With Harry Clarke or Johnson as right wing back, and Leif on the left |  | | |
| Defence.. on 10:20 - Dec 26 with 2706 views | Wallingford_Boy |
| Defence.. on 10:09 - Dec 26 by redrickstuhaart |
Perhaps because O'Shea is not a full back and Greaves is not a right sided CB? |
As the OP, O’Shea has played plenty of games at RB.
Greaves is a centre back, I’m sure he could cope playing on the right side of the centre partnership than the left! Lol
Other than that, you make good points. | |
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| Defence.. on 10:21 - Dec 26 with 2702 views | Wallingford_Boy |
| Defence.. on 10:15 - Dec 26 by Zx1988 |
Discussed this with a couple of chums at the Newcastle game.
It feels as if it's another symptom of the step-up in quality between EFL and EPL - injured players can't simply come back in and hit the ground running. The gulf between fit and match fit is phenomenal. It almost feels as if it's preferable to have a match fit 'lesser' player in the side, than bring in a better player who needs time to get back up to speed.
It's almost as if a secondary league is needed, that would allow returning players to get back up to speed. You could get a combination of geographically contiguous clubs, and give them the opportunity to field players otherwise held in reserve. No idea what you'd call it, though. |
The U21s? | |
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| Defence.. on 10:38 - Dec 26 with 2609 views | mr_bean |
| Defence.. on 10:15 - Dec 26 by Zx1988 |
Discussed this with a couple of chums at the Newcastle game.
It feels as if it's another symptom of the step-up in quality between EFL and EPL - injured players can't simply come back in and hit the ground running. The gulf between fit and match fit is phenomenal. It almost feels as if it's preferable to have a match fit 'lesser' player in the side, than bring in a better player who needs time to get back up to speed.
It's almost as if a secondary league is needed, that would allow returning players to get back up to speed. You could get a combination of geographically contiguous clubs, and give them the opportunity to field players otherwise held in reserve. No idea what you'd call it, though. |
That's not a bad shout. I can see where you're going with this. A secondary league like that could be called... let me see.... The Football Combination? | | | |
| Defence.. on 10:49 - Dec 26 with 2554 views | pointofblue |
The issue might be his lack of experience playing alongside O'Shea - then add to that him having no time whatsoever alongside Burgess. The best he's looked is when Woolfenden was RCB.
I personally think we should move to a back three but, should have stick to a four, I can see why Burgess might be preferred as it stands. | |
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| Defence.. on 11:05 - Dec 26 with 2486 views | ibbleobble |
Two left footers in the centre of defence? Not going to happen at this level. Bad shout. | | | |
| Defence.. on 11:08 - Dec 26 with 2473 views | ReusersTown |
| Defence.. on 10:20 - Dec 26 by Wallingford_Boy |
As the OP, O’Shea has played plenty of games at RB.
Greaves is a centre back, I’m sure he could cope playing on the right side of the centre partnership than the left! Lol
Other than that, you make good points. |
On one of the few times I've seen Greaves in a RCB position he shanked his clearance straight to Morgan Rodgers and we conceded. Having correctly footed LCB & RCB has been fairly important to our play over the last few years. | | | |
| Defence.. on 11:55 - Dec 26 with 2306 views | Wallingford_Boy |
| Defence.. on 11:05 - Dec 26 by ibbleobble |
Two left footers in the centre of defence? Not going to happen at this level. Bad shout. |
Hahaha it’s 2024, players aren’t really single footed anymore.
Left/right centre back is a bit of a myth tbh. | |
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| Defence.. on 12:04 - Dec 26 with 2275 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Defence.. on 11:55 - Dec 26 by Wallingford_Boy |
Hahaha it’s 2024, players aren’t really single footed anymore.
Left/right centre back is a bit of a myth tbh. |
What utter nonsense that is. | | | |
| Defence.. on 12:10 - Dec 26 with 2241 views | kpblues |
| Defence.. on 11:55 - Dec 26 by Wallingford_Boy |
Hahaha it’s 2024, players aren’t really single footed anymore.
Left/right centre back is a bit of a myth tbh. |
Sadly a lot of our players are single footed.
For example have you not have noticed Lief is left only and Sammy is right only?
They often rotate their whole body in order to kick with their favoured foot.
Personally I would love Kieron to make two feet a criteria of future Ipswich players but football is stuck in the myth that players can only have one foot. | |
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| Defence.. on 12:13 - Dec 26 with 2230 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Defence.. on 12:10 - Dec 26 by kpblues |
Sadly a lot of our players are single footed.
For example have you not have noticed Lief is left only and Sammy is right only?
They often rotate their whole body in order to kick with their favoured foot.
Personally I would love Kieron to make two feet a criteria of future Ipswich players but football is stuck in the myth that players can only have one foot. |
Genuinely two footed players of the required quality are very expensive. Though Hutch is probably one of them.
The idea, though, that we should just put left footers in right footed positions is nuts. There is a reason Burgess takes the left side and Leif doesnt play right back. | | | |
| Defence.. on 12:54 - Dec 26 with 2091 views | cbower |
| Defence.. on 10:17 - Dec 26 by muhrensleftfoot |
Or play a back 3 of O’Shea, Greaves and Burgess. With Harry Clarke or Johnson as right wing back, and Leif on the left |
352 would seem so obvious to me. Tighten up at the back, seek to avoid getting overrun in the centre of the park. Stop getting caught so much on the counter when Leif bombs on, lots of alternatives on the right side - Clarke, Johnson, Burns and Axel when he returns, offer some support to Delap with someone playing off him |  |
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| Defence.. on 13:16 - Dec 26 with 2010 views | BlueForYou |
Not the modern way perhaps, but could play Woolfenden, O'Shea, Greaves, Burgess. Push Davis forward as part of a 442. We could do with trying something different. [Post edited 26 Dec 2024 16:04]
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| Defence.. on 14:28 - Dec 26 with 1852 views | bournemouthblue |
| Defence.. on 10:15 - Dec 26 by Zx1988 |
Discussed this with a couple of chums at the Newcastle game.
It feels as if it's another symptom of the step-up in quality between EFL and EPL - injured players can't simply come back in and hit the ground running. The gulf between fit and match fit is phenomenal. It almost feels as if it's preferable to have a match fit 'lesser' player in the side, than bring in a better player who needs time to get back up to speed.
It's almost as if a secondary league is needed, that would allow returning players to get back up to speed. You could get a combination of geographically contiguous clubs, and give them the opportunity to field players otherwise held in reserve. No idea what you'd call it, though. |
I suppose by not being Category 1, we don't play in the highest reserve leagues available? |  |
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| Defence.. on 14:50 - Dec 26 with 1778 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Defence.. on 11:55 - Dec 26 by Wallingford_Boy |
Hahaha it’s 2024, players aren’t really single footed anymore.
Left/right centre back is a bit of a myth tbh. |
Really isn't |  | | |
| Defence.. on 15:14 - Dec 26 with 1698 views | vinceg |
A large proportion of players are competent with their weaker foot, but certainly not truly two-footed.
Recall seeing a guy playing for Darlington though, way back when they were in the league, I think he was from Liechtenstein. Darlo got a corner on the left which he swung in with his right foot, it got cleared behind on the other side and he trotted over and swung it in with his left! |  | | |
| Defence.. on 15:17 - Dec 26 with 1686 views | billlm |
| Defence.. on 10:17 - Dec 26 by muhrensleftfoot |
Or play a back 3 of O’Shea, Greaves and Burgess. With Harry Clarke or Johnson as right wing back, and Leif on the left |
For the top teams thats the way to go try and get something home or away, |  | | |
| Defence.. on 16:17 - Dec 26 with 1553 views | Garv |
| Defence.. on 11:55 - Dec 26 by Wallingford_Boy |
Hahaha it’s 2024, players aren’t really single footed anymore.
Left/right centre back is a bit of a myth tbh. |
Someone has never watched Phil Foden. |  |
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| Defence.. on 16:18 - Dec 26 with 1546 views | Garv |
| Defence.. on 11:55 - Dec 26 by Wallingford_Boy |
Hahaha it’s 2024, players aren’t really single footed anymore.
Left/right centre back is a bit of a myth tbh. |
Someone has never watched Phil Foden.
Loads of players are single footed. Omari Hutchinson has a very average right foot. | |
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| Defence.. on 19:03 - Dec 26 with 1353 views | Vaughan8 |
Not for me.
Greaves is for me not better than Burgess (at the moment) and I don't think Oshea at RB vs Arsenal's attack is a wise move.
Johnson is a better option at RB for me. | | | |
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