| Muric 00:55 - Dec 28 with 7752 views | warky_1970 |
Man of the match |  | | |  |
| Muric on 20:37 - Dec 28 with 1579 views | ibbleobble |
| Muric on 16:46 - Dec 28 by FrimleyBlue |
Wasn't motm but did nothing wrong.
Sure a few kicks went out. But many keeprs do when going long.
With all the poor passes going on in front of him. Anyone criticising his passing are being very hypocritical unless they bring up those by others. |
Maybe stop looking at things in isolation; consider context with objectivity (something incredibly lacking on this forum) and use everything that has happened before as a means to apply logic, that’ll then help determine foresight.
No-one is being hypocritical. Most acknowledge there were poor passes and touches by most throughout the game. Muric has been consistently poor with his feet all season, which is why he’s under the microscope. |  | | |
| Muric on 20:46 - Dec 28 with 1541 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Muric on 20:37 - Dec 28 by ibbleobble |
Maybe stop looking at things in isolation; consider context with objectivity (something incredibly lacking on this forum) and use everything that has happened before as a means to apply logic, that’ll then help determine foresight.
No-one is being hypocritical. Most acknowledge there were poor passes and touches by most throughout the game. Muric has been consistently poor with his feet all season, which is why he’s under the microscope. |
It's incredibly hypocritical
Morsy. Burns Hutchinson clarke chappers. Have all been guilty of passing the ball to the opposition or with Clarke pinging it 50 yards out for a goal kick or to the oppo goalkeeper. Morsy has many passes that goes straight to the opposition.
But the goalkeeper who's main job is to save. Catch and command his box does a fairly decent job at that.. doesn't pass accurately 100% in games and he's the worst goalkeeper ever.
I didn't rate the bloke at the start. But I like him.
No ones mentioned the lovely pings over to davis yesterday. Davis unfortunately fluffed a couple.
There were some brilliant drilled balls into cajuste who span and turned and put in Hutchinson at one point too. No mention of it.
But kicked the ball out of play when trying to find someone on the flanks and he's the worst keeper in the world again.
For someone who Is as negative as they come. I find it absolutely baffling how much stick he gets for a part of his game that isn't the main reason why he was signed. Yet you praise those who are paid alot of money who struggle to pass the ball to their own team mates. |  |
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| Muric on 21:22 - Dec 28 with 1478 views | Churchman |
| Muric on 20:37 - Dec 28 by ibbleobble |
Maybe stop looking at things in isolation; consider context with objectivity (something incredibly lacking on this forum) and use everything that has happened before as a means to apply logic, that’ll then help determine foresight.
No-one is being hypocritical. Most acknowledge there were poor passes and touches by most throughout the game. Muric has been consistently poor with his feet all season, which is why he’s under the microscope. |
You started putting the boot into Muric on 25th August after his first game. 10th November you started another thread entitled ‘Muric is such a calamity’. Spurs away.
And you lecture another poster about context and objectivity? Wow. |  | | |
| Muric on 23:03 - Dec 28 with 1441 views | SouperJim |
| Muric on 20:46 - Dec 28 by FrimleyBlue |
It's incredibly hypocritical
Morsy. Burns Hutchinson clarke chappers. Have all been guilty of passing the ball to the opposition or with Clarke pinging it 50 yards out for a goal kick or to the oppo goalkeeper. Morsy has many passes that goes straight to the opposition.
But the goalkeeper who's main job is to save. Catch and command his box does a fairly decent job at that.. doesn't pass accurately 100% in games and he's the worst goalkeeper ever.
I didn't rate the bloke at the start. But I like him.
No ones mentioned the lovely pings over to davis yesterday. Davis unfortunately fluffed a couple.
There were some brilliant drilled balls into cajuste who span and turned and put in Hutchinson at one point too. No mention of it.
But kicked the ball out of play when trying to find someone on the flanks and he's the worst keeper in the world again.
For someone who Is as negative as they come. I find it absolutely baffling how much stick he gets for a part of his game that isn't the main reason why he was signed. Yet you praise those who are paid alot of money who struggle to pass the ball to their own team mates. |
Those who lack the emotional intelligence to accept that there is at least an even chance that, despite doing everything can to avoid it, we're going to go down again at the end of the season, need a scapegoat or two.
Muric has made a few high profile errors, goalkeeping errors tend to be the worst punished, therefore he is prime scapegoat material.
From there on it's just confirmation bias. Nothing he does right counts, everything that he can possibly be blamed for is his fault. Case in point, the wally in this thread who blamed him for Arsenal's goal. Ridiculous.
I've seen this behaviour throughout my 25 years following Town, but it is particularly prevalent in the difficult seasons. The most moronic for me was our last relegation from the premier league, when a reasonable section of our fanbase started hounding Magilton for "only passing sideways".
Occasionally I attempt to convince these "supporters" that regardless of what they think of a particular player, they should follow the McCarthy model and be on the inside pissing out, rather than the outside pissing in, but they usually go off on one about how they are entitled to criticise etc.
It's all very tiresome. I'd give up on engaging with it if I were you. You won't change their minds. |  |
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| Muric on 23:39 - Dec 28 with 1392 views | Nutkins_Return |
| Muric on 23:03 - Dec 28 by SouperJim |
Those who lack the emotional intelligence to accept that there is at least an even chance that, despite doing everything can to avoid it, we're going to go down again at the end of the season, need a scapegoat or two.
Muric has made a few high profile errors, goalkeeping errors tend to be the worst punished, therefore he is prime scapegoat material.
From there on it's just confirmation bias. Nothing he does right counts, everything that he can possibly be blamed for is his fault. Case in point, the wally in this thread who blamed him for Arsenal's goal. Ridiculous.
I've seen this behaviour throughout my 25 years following Town, but it is particularly prevalent in the difficult seasons. The most moronic for me was our last relegation from the premier league, when a reasonable section of our fanbase started hounding Magilton for "only passing sideways".
Occasionally I attempt to convince these "supporters" that regardless of what they think of a particular player, they should follow the McCarthy model and be on the inside pissing out, rather than the outside pissing in, but they usually go off on one about how they are entitled to criticise etc.
It's all very tiresome. I'd give up on engaging with it if I were you. You won't change their minds. |
Exactly this. You can't question our players commitment
Exactly as you say even with an outstanding manager pulling the strings and having them well coached and well drilled the chances are it won't be enough. We don't have to dig players out constantly. It's a choice (even if not a conscious one). We have probably all done it at least once and formed opinions on certain players but for some people it sets in and becomes gospel no matter how a player plays. | |
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| Muric on 10:15 - Dec 29 with 1296 views | NthQldITFC |
| Muric on 11:29 - Dec 28 by ibbleobble |
😂 - well that gets my nonsense post of the day award. Here’s your prize 🏆 |
You talk one helluva lot of bollox.
Not sure whether that makes you more or less qualified to allocate a nonsense prize. |  |
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| Muric on 22:20 - Dec 30 with 1102 views | TresBonne |
| Muric on 01:02 - Dec 28 by TresBonne |
Yep great stats tonight:
Kicked it directly out of play three times
Only managed to hammer it at a defender to deal with once
Somehow let a ball squeeze through his near post once
Managed about one half arsed clap to the away end
Made two routine saves (his job)
Great performance real improvement. [Post edited 28 Dec 2024 1:05]
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All these downvotes and the manager sees sense, benches headless man, Walton comes in and - masterclass.
Albeit he did kick a few out, I’ll admit that too… |  | | |
| Muric on 22:23 - Dec 30 with 1087 views | mutters |
| Muric on 22:20 - Dec 30 by TresBonne |
All these downvotes and the manager sees sense, benches headless man, Walton comes in and - masterclass.
Albeit he did kick a few out, I’ll admit that too… |
Walton was solid, did really well.
I do worry at times that we seem to feel obligated to play the ball out from the back, when a good old hoof up front will sometime do. Walton definitely did that at times, which can do wonders for alleviating pressure. |  |
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| Muric on 22:24 - Dec 30 with 1080 views | NedPlimpton |
| Muric on 22:20 - Dec 30 by TresBonne |
All these downvotes and the manager sees sense, benches headless man, Walton comes in and - masterclass.
Albeit he did kick a few out, I’ll admit that too… |
Masterclass? Really???
Let's not get ahead of ourselves |  | | |
| Muric on 22:26 - Dec 30 with 1032 views | TresBonne |
| Muric on 22:24 - Dec 30 by NedPlimpton |
Masterclass? Really???
Let's not get ahead of ourselves |
9.0 rating, MOTM, 2-3 outstanding saves…call that a masterclass personally | | | |
| Muric on 22:33 - Dec 30 with 989 views | NedPlimpton |
| Muric on 22:26 - Dec 30 by TresBonne |
9.0 rating, MOTM, 2-3 outstanding saves…call that a masterclass personally |
He had a good game but it wasn't a goalkeeping masterclass
You can't pretend you didn't see some of the wayward distribution?
The defence certainly looked more comfortable with Walton behind them though and you'd have to think the shirt is his to lose | | | |
| Muric on 22:40 - Dec 30 with 940 views | ibbleobble |
| Muric on 21:22 - Dec 28 by Churchman |
You started putting the boot into Muric on 25th August after his first game. 10th November you started another thread entitled ‘Muric is such a calamity’. Spurs away.
And you lecture another poster about context and objectivity? Wow. |
What fella? You try hard but you really should save your energy as you spin your wheels a lot. I’ve consistently said he’s not the right fit from August until now because he’s still evolving and it’s not what we need. Context has been the same throughout so no idea what you’re trying to say really.
I assume me you’re trying to insinuate I’m scapegoating him, which is of course, something those of simple minds jibber rather lazily.
Probably best we let sleeping dogs lie given events tonight, which should make some eat humble pie on this forum and on this thread in particular. | | | |
| Muric on 22:43 - Dec 30 with 916 views | Ryorry |
| Muric on 22:33 - Dec 30 by NedPlimpton |
He had a good game but it wasn't a goalkeeping masterclass
You can't pretend you didn't see some of the wayward distribution?
The defence certainly looked more comfortable with Walton behind them though and you'd have to think the shirt is his to lose |
The R5live commentator said Muric had a right grump on & refused to give them a comment before the game (not sure how usual it'd be for a player to do so beforehand anyway?) - they only found out later that he was on the bench, they then understood why.
Makes you wonder if the swap really was made because of injury. |  |
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| Muric on 22:46 - Dec 30 with 894 views | Eireannach_gorm |
| Muric on 22:20 - Dec 30 by TresBonne |
All these downvotes and the manager sees sense, benches headless man, Walton comes in and - masterclass.
Albeit he did kick a few out, I’ll admit that too… |
He played well but hardly a masterclass. He had some good luck when (a) he dropped the ball in a crowded box and (b) the rebound off the post was kicked straight to him with an empty goal to aim at. Even though he was not that commanding the defence DID seem more confident in him. Still think Muric is the better keeper but way more flakey which probably puts Walton in the driving seat. |  | | |
| Muric on 22:49 - Dec 30 with 882 views | ibbleobble |
| Muric on 22:43 - Dec 30 by Ryorry |
The R5live commentator said Muric had a right grump on & refused to give them a comment before the game (not sure how usual it'd be for a player to do so beforehand anyway?) - they only found out later that he was on the bench, they then understood why.
Makes you wonder if the swap really was made because of injury. |
Either way, Walton can’t be dropped for Fulham now so the shirt is his to lose. I don’t think KM has been overly enamoured with Muric for a while despite a public backing. Speculative of course but we needed a change to freshen it up and what a time and occasion to do it. | | | |
| Muric on 22:56 - Dec 30 with 833 views | BonchosBicycle |
As I said elsewhere - Walton did a fantastic job tonight but to be fair to Muric, it was clear Walton had been told not to play short and lump it towards Delap unless there was someone in 10 yards of space. Most of Muric's "errors" have come from our rigidity about not going long. There's a place for both, I just wish we'd find a balance. Still, absolutely blinding result. |  | | |
| Muric on 22:57 - Dec 30 with 823 views | Churchman |
| Muric on 22:40 - Dec 30 by ibbleobble |
What fella? You try hard but you really should save your energy as you spin your wheels a lot. I’ve consistently said he’s not the right fit from August until now because he’s still evolving and it’s not what we need. Context has been the same throughout so no idea what you’re trying to say really.
I assume me you’re trying to insinuate I’m scapegoating him, which is of course, something those of simple minds jibber rather lazily.
Probably best we let sleeping dogs lie given events tonight, which should make some eat humble pie on this forum and on this thread in particular. |
You come on here after a result like tonight’s and come out with a post like that? Dear oh dear.
No insinuation. You have scapegoated him from the start. That may mean I am simple minded, it may not, but regardless I’m certainly not interested in your opinion. No need to respond. | | | |
| Muric on 22:57 - Dec 30 with 820 views | TresBonne |
| Muric on 22:33 - Dec 30 by NedPlimpton |
He had a good game but it wasn't a goalkeeping masterclass
You can't pretend you didn't see some of the wayward distribution?
The defence certainly looked more comfortable with Walton behind them though and you'd have to think the shirt is his to lose |
Read what I put about his distribution... | | | |
| Muric on 22:59 - Dec 30 with 803 views | NedPlimpton |
| Muric on 22:57 - Dec 30 by TresBonne |
Read what I put about his distribution... |
So not a masterclass then? | | | |
| Muric on 23:00 - Dec 30 with 792 views | JammyDodgerrr |
| Muric on 22:49 - Dec 30 by ibbleobble |
Either way, Walton can’t be dropped for Fulham now so the shirt is his to lose. I don’t think KM has been overly enamoured with Muric for a while despite a public backing. Speculative of course but we needed a change to freshen it up and what a time and occasion to do it. |
I'd be fully expecting Muric to come back in. [Post edited 30 Dec 2024 23:00]
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| Muric on 23:02 - Dec 30 with 776 views | TresBonne |
| Muric on 22:59 - Dec 30 by NedPlimpton |
So not a masterclass then? |
Ok ok, maybe I got ahead of myself, I'll give you it!
Was too buzzing. Either way great night. Up the town. | | | |
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