Surely we're not thinking of loaning out Broady? 16:44 - Jan 23 with 3688 views | jasondozzell | Been one of our best players the last few games when's he got his opportunity. One of the most unique players in the squad. Can't believe we'll let him go. |  | | |  |
Surely we're not thinking of loaning out Broady? on 16:47 - Jan 23 with 3301 views | Marshalls_Mullet | Is this rumoured? I agree, but it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. I think Broady, Burgess and Chaplin have generally been underused this season, in favour of unproven expensive replacements. |  |
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Surely we're not thinking of loaning out Broady? on 16:57 - Jan 23 with 3197 views | jasondozzell |
Surely we're not thinking of loaning out Broady? on 16:47 - Jan 23 by Marshalls_Mullet | Is this rumoured? I agree, but it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. I think Broady, Burgess and Chaplin have generally been underused this season, in favour of unproven expensive replacements. |
Phil's story on Enciso says Boro are keeping tabs and suggests it's a possibility that we may look to loan him out. For my money he's a McGoldrick type player. Really great to watch. Think he's been excellent. I agree about the league one stalwarts. Think they deserve more. Burgess arguably second only to O'Shea as best defender. Burns has made good progress. Chappers is Chappers. Think it's a difficult balancing act and I am excited at the talent we've brought in but we mustn't lose sight of who we are and what got us here. |  | |  |
Surely we're not thinking of loaning out Broady? on 17:00 - Jan 23 with 3161 views | LankHenners | Slightly bemused by some of the shouts that he's been among our best players recently. IMO we've had the typical Broadhead experience from him - some lovely moments when he's on the ball but disappears completely from the action for long spells and gets jogged past too easily. Can 'carry' that sort of player in the Championship to a degree but no surprise to me that we're looking to bring in players that offer more of an all round game at this level. Understand the support for him and any player that's been with us on the 'journey' but sometimes reality has to trump sentimentality. |  |
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Surely we're not thinking of loaning out Broady? on 17:01 - Jan 23 with 3143 views | BloomBlue | As you say surely not. He's the only one who has created anything in the last few games. Why would you sell him and replace him with players who have delivered nothing so far this season? I hope they are both brilliant, but the facts are to-date Philogene hasn't assisted in a single goal at AV, even though they have better players who would be finding space. Enciso, while I appreciate he had a long term injury, again not done anything so far this season. As I said I hope form improves for both, but It would be banter era if we sold the one player who has created goals in the PL in the last few games. |  | |  |
Surely we're not thinking of loaning out Broady? on 17:10 - Jan 23 with 3066 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
Surely we're not thinking of loaning out Broady? on 17:00 - Jan 23 by LankHenners | Slightly bemused by some of the shouts that he's been among our best players recently. IMO we've had the typical Broadhead experience from him - some lovely moments when he's on the ball but disappears completely from the action for long spells and gets jogged past too easily. Can 'carry' that sort of player in the Championship to a degree but no surprise to me that we're looking to bring in players that offer more of an all round game at this level. Understand the support for him and any player that's been with us on the 'journey' but sometimes reality has to trump sentimentality. |
I think he's played well, as well as anyone. Sentiment doesn't come into it. If it wasnt for Hutchinsons price tag, you could claim the same about him, as hes struggled for end product. |  |
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Surely we're not thinking of loaning out Broady? on 17:12 - Jan 23 with 3046 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
Surely we're not thinking of loaning out Broady? on 16:57 - Jan 23 by jasondozzell | Phil's story on Enciso says Boro are keeping tabs and suggests it's a possibility that we may look to loan him out. For my money he's a McGoldrick type player. Really great to watch. Think he's been excellent. I agree about the league one stalwarts. Think they deserve more. Burgess arguably second only to O'Shea as best defender. Burns has made good progress. Chappers is Chappers. Think it's a difficult balancing act and I am excited at the talent we've brought in but we mustn't lose sight of who we are and what got us here. |
I have high hopes for JP, not so sure re Enciso. I rate Chappers, its not sentiment. |  |
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Surely we're not thinking of loaning out Broady? on 17:12 - Jan 23 with 3048 views | WD19 |
Surely we're not thinking of loaning out Broady? on 17:00 - Jan 23 by LankHenners | Slightly bemused by some of the shouts that he's been among our best players recently. IMO we've had the typical Broadhead experience from him - some lovely moments when he's on the ball but disappears completely from the action for long spells and gets jogged past too easily. Can 'carry' that sort of player in the Championship to a degree but no surprise to me that we're looking to bring in players that offer more of an all round game at this level. Understand the support for him and any player that's been with us on the 'journey' but sometimes reality has to trump sentimentality. |
The only thing ‘typical’ about Broady is that any team with him in it has a successful season. |  | |  |
Surely we're not thinking of loaning out Broady? on 17:16 - Jan 23 with 2994 views | LankHenners |
Surely we're not thinking of loaning out Broady? on 17:10 - Jan 23 by Marshalls_Mullet | I think he's played well, as well as anyone. Sentiment doesn't come into it. If it wasnt for Hutchinsons price tag, you could claim the same about him, as hes struggled for end product. |
Everyone can have an opinion on how well they think someone's played, that's immaterial really when they evidence staring us all in the face is that those in positions of power in the club think certain positions and players could do with improving on. There clearly is an element of sentimentality when it comes to fans' opinions which is fine (and normal!), but McKenna, Ashton, etc. can't and won't think that way. |  |
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Surely we're not thinking of loaning out Broady? on 17:17 - Jan 23 with 2971 views | OldFart71 | I think maybe Broadhead is a bit like Taylor in that where do they fit in the team. I think this is possibly the case with several of the new recruits where form has been sketchy. Obviously what KM needs is a first eleven and to have at least half a dozen players where if they came on as substitutes no distinct difference would be noticeable. Unfortunately that hasn't been the case for most of the season. The in and out of form has been noticeable amongst the like of Greaves, Muric and Hutchinson and an unsettled back three, four or five. No real alternatives to Morsy and Cajuste in midfield with Phillips not being that impressive, Taylor not able to find a regular place and Loungo most likely to go at the end of the season if still in the Prem. |  | |  |
Surely we're not thinking of loaning out Broady? on 17:20 - Jan 23 with 2932 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
Surely we're not thinking of loaning out Broady? on 17:16 - Jan 23 by LankHenners | Everyone can have an opinion on how well they think someone's played, that's immaterial really when they evidence staring us all in the face is that those in positions of power in the club think certain positions and players could do with improving on. There clearly is an element of sentimentality when it comes to fans' opinions which is fine (and normal!), but McKenna, Ashton, etc. can't and won't think that way. |
No sentiment in my view. I have mentioned three players out of a much larger number who have come on the journey with us. Happy to agree to differ. Its OK to disagree. 😊 |  |
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Surely we're not thinking of loaning out Broady? on 17:33 - Jan 23 with 2863 views | bringbacktheglory |
Surely we're not thinking of loaning out Broady? on 17:12 - Jan 23 by Marshalls_Mullet | I have high hopes for JP, not so sure re Enciso. I rate Chappers, its not sentiment. |
I agree with you about Chaplin, he’s played well most of the games he’s played in my option but he’s a victim of the slight tweak to the formation where we are really playing with 2 10s rather than 3 and he’s only really suited to the centre 10, rather than left or right which is what we are playing with now. Thats how I see it, anyway! Brighton fans I know are disappointed he’s gone out on loan but some have said he needs to be less selfish and he’ll be a hell of a player. If anyone can get him going, it’s McKenna! |  | |  |
Surely we're not thinking of loaning out Broady? on 17:37 - Jan 23 with 2821 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
Surely we're not thinking of loaning out Broady? on 17:33 - Jan 23 by bringbacktheglory | I agree with you about Chaplin, he’s played well most of the games he’s played in my option but he’s a victim of the slight tweak to the formation where we are really playing with 2 10s rather than 3 and he’s only really suited to the centre 10, rather than left or right which is what we are playing with now. Thats how I see it, anyway! Brighton fans I know are disappointed he’s gone out on loan but some have said he needs to be less selfish and he’ll be a hell of a player. If anyone can get him going, it’s McKenna! |
I read about him having 8 shots in a half v Brentford. Although he didn't score, I like that he seems dynamic and not afraid to take a risk. |  |
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Surely we're not thinking of loaning out Broady? on 17:50 - Jan 23 with 2744 views | Swailsey |
Surely we're not thinking of loaning out Broady? on 17:00 - Jan 23 by LankHenners | Slightly bemused by some of the shouts that he's been among our best players recently. IMO we've had the typical Broadhead experience from him - some lovely moments when he's on the ball but disappears completely from the action for long spells and gets jogged past too easily. Can 'carry' that sort of player in the Championship to a degree but no surprise to me that we're looking to bring in players that offer more of an all round game at this level. Understand the support for him and any player that's been with us on the 'journey' but sometimes reality has to trump sentimentality. |
I’d query that - I think he’s was great in his first games back, and created a great chance against Brighton. Last year he drifted but I don’t think he has this year. Would be a real shame for him to go IMO. |  |
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Surely we're not thinking of loaning out Broady? on 17:50 - Jan 23 with 2739 views | Swailsey |
Surely we're not thinking of loaning out Broady? on 16:47 - Jan 23 by Marshalls_Mullet | Is this rumoured? I agree, but it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. I think Broady, Burgess and Chaplin have generally been underused this season, in favour of unproven expensive replacements. |
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Surely we're not thinking of loaning out Broady? on 18:07 - Jan 23 with 2624 views | bringbacktheglory |
Surely we're not thinking of loaning out Broady? on 17:37 - Jan 23 by Marshalls_Mullet | I read about him having 8 shots in a half v Brentford. Although he didn't score, I like that he seems dynamic and not afraid to take a risk. |
Absolutely, we need people who are not afraid to take risks, like Delap. A bit of coaching on decision making could turn that into 6 shots and two goals! |  | |  |
Surely we're not thinking of loaning out Broady? on 18:09 - Jan 23 with 2616 views | MK1 | Broadhead, Szmodics, Burns, Chaplin, Clarke and Hirst gives us many options from the bench. I wouldn't be letting any of them leave yet. Al-Hamadi, Luongo and H.Clarke maybe need to move on now, but the rest of the squad is looking pretty strong now. |  |
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Surely we're not thinking of loaning out Broady? on 18:11 - Jan 23 with 2601 views | pointofblue |
Surely we're not thinking of loaning out Broady? on 17:16 - Jan 23 by LankHenners | Everyone can have an opinion on how well they think someone's played, that's immaterial really when they evidence staring us all in the face is that those in positions of power in the club think certain positions and players could do with improving on. There clearly is an element of sentimentality when it comes to fans' opinions which is fine (and normal!), but McKenna, Ashton, etc. can't and won't think that way. |
There are a couple of players where I think playing them would be sentimentality above all else - Harry Clarke and Luongo are the two who stand out. But most of last year's squad have shown enough quality to play at this level. They probably need a higher quality of player around them to help bring their best out, so there's no way we can field a League One eleven and expect it to work but, for example, I've been more impressed with the likes of Walton, Woolfenden, Burgess, Burns, Chaplin and Broadhead than I have of Muric, Johnson, Greaves, Phillips, Szmodics and J Clarke. Perhaps a level of expectation plays into that. |  |
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Surely we're not thinking of loaning out Broady? on 19:44 - Jan 23 with 2299 views | Exiled2Surrey |
Surely we're not thinking of loaning out Broady? on 18:11 - Jan 23 by pointofblue | There are a couple of players where I think playing them would be sentimentality above all else - Harry Clarke and Luongo are the two who stand out. But most of last year's squad have shown enough quality to play at this level. They probably need a higher quality of player around them to help bring their best out, so there's no way we can field a League One eleven and expect it to work but, for example, I've been more impressed with the likes of Walton, Woolfenden, Burgess, Burns, Chaplin and Broadhead than I have of Muric, Johnson, Greaves, Phillips, Szmodics and J Clarke. Perhaps a level of expectation plays into that. |
I think you are right that expectation and an understanding of the journey plays a large part in those views. Greaves v Burgess is an interesting one for me. I am sure some think that Greaves plays because of the price tag. I am not sure. I think he plays because his link up in tight spaces with Davis and Cajuste are very effective at getting us out of tight spots. And he also gets his head on it. Clearly Burgess is more physical and therefore was more suited to the Haarland duel, but I still think we will see more of Greaves because of his ability with the ball at his feet. He just needs to develop that ball up the side to Leif. |  | |  |
Surely we're not thinking of loaning out Broady? on 19:53 - Jan 23 with 2208 views | Miaow | I think he's our most naturally gifted player. |  |
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Surely we're not thinking of loaning out Broady? on 19:54 - Jan 23 with 2200 views | Swansea_Blue | I really hope not. I wasn’t sure before the season started if he’d get any game time, yet he’s one of the few that has made us look, well, like us. He helps us gut up the pitch and looks like he belongs in this league. |  |
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Surely we're not thinking of loaning out Broady? on 20:21 - Jan 23 with 2066 views | stonojnr |
Surely we're not thinking of loaning out Broady? on 17:10 - Jan 23 by Marshalls_Mullet | I think he's played well, as well as anyone. Sentiment doesn't come into it. If it wasnt for Hutchinsons price tag, you could claim the same about him, as hes struggled for end product. |
Hutch is 21, still learning the game and how to play at the top level, he will get better. Broady is 26, roughly into the peak periof of his career, can he get any better than he already is ? an unknown imo. he has flashes of inspiration and moves, but equally I do forget he's on the pitch still sometimes. the reality is we have to shift some players out now to meet the squad size rules so its only a question of whom goes, not if. |  | |  |
Surely we're not thinking of loaning out Broady? on 20:26 - Jan 23 with 2044 views | PhilTWTD | They would have let him go on loan to Sunderland in the summer had the move for Reiss Nelson come off, even if he didn't want to go. I know there is interest in him, but it would surprise me if they let him go now. |  | |  |
Surely we're not thinking of loaning out Broady? on 20:48 - Jan 23 with 1871 views | Vaughan8 | Your view of Broadhead is very inflated but he has been fine since he's come in and done well in a period where the team haven't particularly. I'd be surprised if he is loaned out now. I'm guessing we are currently over our allocated players so some players have to go (or will never be played) |  | |  |
Surely we're not thinking of loaning out Broady? on 21:30 - Jan 23 with 1734 views | jasondozzell |
Surely we're not thinking of loaning out Broady? on 20:26 - Jan 23 by PhilTWTD | They would have let him go on loan to Sunderland in the summer had the move for Reiss Nelson come off, even if he didn't want to go. I know there is interest in him, but it would surprise me if they let him go now. |
Thanks, Phil. Would love him to score a big goal this season. So close recently Such a big part of the journey. Still think of his free kick against Wednesday as the pivotal moment somehow! |  | |  |
Surely we're not thinking of loaning out Broady? on 21:32 - Jan 23 with 1707 views | PhilTWTD |
Surely we're not thinking of loaning out Broady? on 21:30 - Jan 23 by jasondozzell | Thanks, Phil. Would love him to score a big goal this season. So close recently Such a big part of the journey. Still think of his free kick against Wednesday as the pivotal moment somehow! |
Would love him to get a goal and prove a success in this division. As you say, that free-kick was a big moment. |  | |  |
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