| This is starting out as badly as many feared 08:02 - Jan 27 with 4923 views | StokieBlue |
I'm sure those amongst us who don't agree with him feared this would be the case but Trump has started in an awful fashion:
On Saturday he called the Danish PM demanding they hand over Greenland. For context, this is a NATO ally and has been an ally for 75 years who he is trying to bully into ceding part of their territory. If Putin was doing it there would be outrage [1].
Then on Sunday he said Gaza should be cleared of Palestinians whilst they rebuild [2]. He then changed that to "possibly the longer term" then he said this:
"“I’d rather get involved with some of the Arab nations and build housing at a different location where they can maybe live in peace for a change,” Trump told reporters on Air Force One. “You’re talking about probably a million and a half people, and we just clean out that whole thing and say: ‘You know, it’s over.’”
That's all in his first weekend of his second term.
Horrible stuff.
SB
[1]. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jan/25/trump-greenland-denmark
[2]. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/26/trump-resumes-sending-2000-pound |  | | |  |
| This is starting out as badly as many feared on 10:01 - Jan 27 with 951 views | Lord_Lucan |
| This is starting out as badly as many feared on 08:14 - Jan 27 by GlasgowBlue |
His words regarding Gaza is an incitement to ethnic cleansing and it emboldens the ultra right in Israel, such as Ben-Gvir who resigned from the cabinet due to the ceasefire deal. It’s absolutely reprehensible. Trump just thinks he can bully his way through every situation. It’s as if he thinks he can use a compulsory purchase order when building his hotels and golf courses.
And we are only one week in. |
Does Trumpy realise that should Denmark want to sell, they have to offer it to UK first, after an agreement was signed in 1917 when USA last tried to steal it. |  |
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| This is starting out as badly as many feared on 10:16 - Jan 27 with 920 views | Pinewoodblue |
| This is starting out as badly as many feared on 09:57 - Jan 27 by Ryorry |
Not to mention reneging on the Paris Climate Agreement with his "drill drill drill" schtick, which U-turn would mean the most fundamental damage of all to the human population of the planet. |
Denmark bans drilling for oil in Greenland,and seas around it, because of thr high risk of damaging the environment. |  |
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| This is starting out as badly as many feared on 10:20 - Jan 27 with 904 views | DJR |
| This is starting out as badly as many feared on 08:23 - Jan 27 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I didn't read it in an "ethnic cleansing" way, but more like a clueless moron who has an etch-a-sketch view of problems, no idea about context and nuance, and that these are real people.
You might be right of course. The best we can hope is he's just an idiot who likes the sound of his own voice and will be put right by the less-idiotic people behind the scenes. |
But his picks for UN Ambassador and Ambassador to Israel are evangelical Christians who believe Israel has the biblical right to Judea and Samaria (the West Bank).
As it is, I don't think the removal of people from Gaza is practical for three reasons.
1. Jordan doesn't want them and doesn't have the capacity.
2. Egypt doesn't want them.
3. The people in Gaza would resist, and I don't think they could be expelled without mass casualties. |  | | |
| This is starting out as badly as many feared on 10:24 - Jan 27 with 870 views | Pinewoodblue |
| This is starting out as badly as many feared on 10:01 - Jan 27 by Lord_Lucan |
Does Trumpy realise that should Denmark want to sell, they have to offer it to UK first, after an agreement was signed in 1917 when USA last tried to steal it. |
Perhaps it would be a good time for the Joint Expeditionary Force to hold exercises in Greenland.
Perhaps based on an unlikely invasion by a foreign power. | |
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| This is starting out as badly as many feared on 10:26 - Jan 27 with 853 views | ElderGrizzly |
| This is starting out as badly as many feared on 10:24 - Jan 27 by Pinewoodblue |
Perhaps it would be a good time for the Joint Expeditionary Force to hold exercises in Greenland.
Perhaps based on an unlikely invasion by a foreign power. |
At least the US have a competent and experienced Defence Sec to push back against an unstable President... |  | | |
| This is starting out as badly as many feared on 10:29 - Jan 27 with 844 views | redrickstuhaart |
| This is starting out as badly as many feared on 10:20 - Jan 27 by DJR |
But his picks for UN Ambassador and Ambassador to Israel are evangelical Christians who believe Israel has the biblical right to Judea and Samaria (the West Bank).
As it is, I don't think the removal of people from Gaza is practical for three reasons.
1. Jordan doesn't want them and doesn't have the capacity.
2. Egypt doesn't want them.
3. The people in Gaza would resist, and I don't think they could be expelled without mass casualties. |
Indeed. Ethnic cleansing has already been happening. Whilst it may not be trumps peimary motive, he is plainly fine with it. Lets not forget that he has elon seig heil musk whispering in his ear eother. His motoves and understanidng are another issue.... |  | | |
| This is starting out as badly as many feared on 10:38 - Jan 27 with 809 views | Bent_double |
| This is starting out as badly as many feared on 10:20 - Jan 27 by DJR |
But his picks for UN Ambassador and Ambassador to Israel are evangelical Christians who believe Israel has the biblical right to Judea and Samaria (the West Bank).
As it is, I don't think the removal of people from Gaza is practical for three reasons.
1. Jordan doesn't want them and doesn't have the capacity.
2. Egypt doesn't want them.
3. The people in Gaza would resist, and I don't think they could be expelled without mass casualties. |
On your 3rd point, I really don't think that's a problem for the current Israeli and US administrations.
On the contrary, no-more Palestinians = no more problems, full stop. |  |
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| This is starting out as badly as many feared on 10:48 - Jan 27 with 791 views | NthQldITFC |
| This is starting out as badly as many feared on 10:01 - Jan 27 by Lord_Lucan |
Does Trumpy realise that should Denmark want to sell, they have to offer it to UK first, after an agreement was signed in 1917 when USA last tried to steal it. |
That makes the UK something akin to Aston Villa, doesn't it, with Greenland as Jaden Philogene and Mark Ashton as the US. Something tells me they'll get their man in the end. |  |
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| This is starting out as badly as many feared on 11:04 - Jan 27 with 756 views | DJR |
| This is starting out as badly as many feared on 10:38 - Jan 27 by Bent_double |
On your 3rd point, I really don't think that's a problem for the current Israeli and US administrations.
On the contrary, no-more Palestinians = no more problems, full stop. |
I think it is one thing moving people around Gaza but expelling them is a completely different exercise.
In any event, allowing Gazans to return to the north seems completely at variance with a policy of eventual expulsion.
For what it is worth, it is not clear to me that the war is over, and I don't think Israel or the US would mind if Gaza remains a devastation zone for years to come, with Gazans relying on aid and eking out a living. | | | |
| This is starting out as badly as many feared on 11:05 - Jan 27 with 747 views | itfcjoe |
| This is starting out as badly as many feared on 09:15 - Jan 27 by Swansea_Blue |
See also Boris Johnson, with people defending him to the hilt. ‘Oh, he’s not doing it for the money, he doesn’t get paid much’ - meanwhile he rakes in donations and makes £5M from speaking engagements in the 6 months after leaving office in disgrace. And what did he do for ‘the people’. Knowingly made the country worse off by taking us out of the EU and his ineptitude is believed to have led to tens of thousands of unnecessary deaths.
It’s crackers. They’re snake oil salesmen that people should see through. |
Boris will always have been ok for money because people like him and will pay him, I'm not a fan of his but what is spoken about in this country isn't in anyway on the same scale as America so don't think need to conflate the two.
Trump launching a meme coin the day before he takes office, with no actual value but allows people to just pump up his value. It's just outright naked corruption |  |
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| This is starting out as badly as many feared on 11:15 - Jan 27 with 704 views | Pinewoodblue |
| This is starting out as badly as many feared on 10:48 - Jan 27 by NthQldITFC |
That makes the UK something akin to Aston Villa, doesn't it, with Greenland as Jaden Philogene and Mark Ashton as the US. Something tells me they'll get their man in the end. |
AllTrump has to do is pat Starmer on the head and tickle him under his chin, wondered why Trump has been saying nice things about Sir K. | |
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| This is starting out as badly as many feared on 11:29 - Jan 27 with 666 views | Lord_Lucan |
| This is starting out as badly as many feared on 11:15 - Jan 27 by Pinewoodblue |
AllTrump has to do is pat Starmer on the head and tickle him under his chin, wondered why Trump has been saying nice things about Sir K. |
You need to read this in a Kevin Keegan voice.
“I’d luv it if the rest of the world put 25% import tariffs on US goods” | |
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| This is starting out as badly as many feared on 12:57 - Jan 27 with 580 views | Illinoisblue |
| This is starting out as badly as many feared on 09:01 - Jan 27 by Guthrum |
Because they've been promised they will benefit from it and get revenge on the traditional politicians who've robbed them of the milk and honey they've been waiting in vain for since the 1980s.
I didn't say it was rational, but the other lot weren't delivering either.
In any case, the masses have been taught* not to care about anything which does not directly and immediately affect themselves.
* The masses are not to blame for that, but the media owners and those setting an educational policy which does not equip them for real critical thinking. |
This is essentially it. That millions of rubes have and do actively give money to Trump tells you all need to know. |  |
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| This is starting out as badly as many feared on 12:59 - Jan 27 with 566 views | Ryorry |
| This is starting out as badly as many feared on 12:57 - Jan 27 by Illinoisblue |
This is essentially it. That millions of rubes have and do actively give money to Trump tells you all need to know. |
Are '"rubes" the US equivalent of gammons? |  |
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| This is starting out as badly as many feared on 13:08 - Jan 27 with 537 views | iamatractorboy |
| This is starting out as badly as many feared on 12:59 - Jan 27 by Ryorry |
Are '"rubes" the US equivalent of gammons? |
It means a (whispers it) country bumpkin. | | | |
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