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Anyone else repulsed by the designs of the prospective new United and Newcastle stadiums? They all look the same, horrible doughnut type enormodomes that seem to all copy Bayern's Allianz arena.
I'm not against modernity but they aren't football ground are they - they're giant entertainment venues.
Would be such a shame for for them to leave St James Park and Old Trafford
Spurs' stadium is impressive but the best things about it are where they've put football first. Outside looks like an airport.
So glad we have PR. True beauty in it!
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The death of the football ground on 19:04 - Jan 31 with 4492 views
Sorry Spuds ground looked great from the outside. The away section was very poor. Ques for toilets & bars great as EPL is supposed to be the away fans game experience is not up the Championship
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The death of the football ground on 19:23 - Jan 31 with 4376 views
Well I'm repulsed by the idea that Manchester get their second tax payer funded stadium, when they're owned by billionaires who could afford to build it themselves.
As to the design, it's all about maximising the corporate experience, multi use setup. No one builds half a billion pound football stadia anymore and never will.
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The death of the football ground on 19:24 - Jan 31 with 4378 views
More so than the design & style of the ground it’s the location of a lot of the ‘newer’ ones that offend me. I love the fact you roll off the train into Ipswich and see PR in all its glory over the bridge. 10 minutes walk into town too. Proper. Numerous away fans this season have said how cool it is, and it’s so much better than a lot of the out of town ‘practical’ stadia that are dumped out in cheaper real estate areas where parking is plentiful and access is easy by road. Fine, but it’s all a bit soulless. Colchester is a good example, Layer Road was a bit of a dive but and training at the Garrison isn’t ideal, but at least it was in the heart of the city. It’s great for the local economy too. The Weston homes community ikea flat pack eyesore sat on the A12 is an absolute abomination of a set up.
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The death of the football ground on 19:58 - Jan 31 with 4164 views
The death of the football ground on 19:34 - Jan 31 by _clive_baker_
More so than the design & style of the ground it’s the location of a lot of the ‘newer’ ones that offend me. I love the fact you roll off the train into Ipswich and see PR in all its glory over the bridge. 10 minutes walk into town too. Proper. Numerous away fans this season have said how cool it is, and it’s so much better than a lot of the out of town ‘practical’ stadia that are dumped out in cheaper real estate areas where parking is plentiful and access is easy by road. Fine, but it’s all a bit soulless. Colchester is a good example, Layer Road was a bit of a dive but and training at the Garrison isn’t ideal, but at least it was in the heart of the city. It’s great for the local economy too. The Weston homes community ikea flat pack eyesore sat on the A12 is an absolute abomination of a set up.
Absolutely. Well said. I really enjoyed seeing Anfield again last week and part of the thrill is turning down a ln ordinary residential street and suddenly being met with the sight of it at the end.
PR is part of the town as you say.
Col U never recovered from moving really.
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The death of the football ground on 20:01 - Jan 31 with 4150 views
The death of the football ground on 19:34 - Jan 31 by _clive_baker_
More so than the design & style of the ground it’s the location of a lot of the ‘newer’ ones that offend me. I love the fact you roll off the train into Ipswich and see PR in all its glory over the bridge. 10 minutes walk into town too. Proper. Numerous away fans this season have said how cool it is, and it’s so much better than a lot of the out of town ‘practical’ stadia that are dumped out in cheaper real estate areas where parking is plentiful and access is easy by road. Fine, but it’s all a bit soulless. Colchester is a good example, Layer Road was a bit of a dive but and training at the Garrison isn’t ideal, but at least it was in the heart of the city. It’s great for the local economy too. The Weston homes community ikea flat pack eyesore sat on the A12 is an absolute abomination of a set up.
Hard to describe just how awful Col U’s ground is. What on earth were they thinking? The design is bad enough but the location may as well be in Hell itself.
The death of the football ground on 20:01 - Jan 31 by Illinoisblue
Hard to describe just how awful Col U’s ground is. What on earth were they thinking? The design is bad enough but the location may as well be in Hell itself.
I went for the pre season friendly in 2023 (first sighting of Omari!) and it is just dreadful. I know Colchester really well and it's just such a trek out of town with nothing near it.
Looks like something chucked down near a road in a Sim City game!
Modern stadia in the absolute arse end of nowhere are garbage. Brighton springs to mind, nice enough ground but it may as well be on the moon. A ground where you can walk out and find a pub close by is what you're after.
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Everton’s is superb on 21:02 - Jan 31 with 3863 views
Great location Iconic shape and roof Tight as Goodison to the pitch Large single banks - kop - like stand Heritage building restored on site Steeply pitched so fans on top of play Only single level of hospitality (issue at Spurs) Fan centric design All him internal concourses linked so people can meet Huge terraces outside overlooking city centre and Mersey Significant nods to Goodison architectural features
Top class ground expected… let’s hope their injuries mean it’s showcasing Championship football
The death of the football ground on 19:58 - Jan 31 by jasondozzell
Absolutely. Well said. I really enjoyed seeing Anfield again last week and part of the thrill is turning down a ln ordinary residential street and suddenly being met with the sight of it at the end.
PR is part of the town as you say.
Col U never recovered from moving really.
The area around Anfield must have changed since I was last there in the 70's. There were roads but instead of houses there was flattened brick rubble. You could see across 4 or 5 blocks of non-existent houses.
Don't believe a word I say. I'm only kidding. Or am I?
The death of the football ground on 20:21 - Jan 31 by jasondozzell
I went for the pre season friendly in 2023 (first sighting of Omari!) and it is just dreadful. I know Colchester really well and it's just such a trek out of town with nothing near it.
Looks like something chucked down near a road in a Sim City game!
I have never been there but did come across this vlog a week or so back.
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The death of the football ground on 22:10 - Jan 31 with 3578 views
The death of the football ground on 23:08 - Jan 31 by urbanpenguin
Where are the images of these?
AFAIK no decisions are made, let alone architectural designs public or planning applications in.
OK I have done some googling.
There is a news article illustrated with AI-generated images of a stadium "design" for Man Utd.
There is another article with a random Alamy image of a generic blob-shaped stadium which is definitely not in Newcastle.
So unless I am missing something, I don't think any designs have been published.
As I understand it - as an architectural journalist - Man Utd are talking about possible solutions with Norman Foster and Populous. I suspect Newcastle are dealing with Populous also. Neither will be anywhere near design stage.
Newcastle have an extremely complicated site to contend with and while always have looked at the idea of a new stadium in a new location, have found the idea of leaving St James' too much. These owners may have less cares for tradition and force through whatever they want.
Manchester United have potentially a lot more space near their current ground, and it looks like they are in advanced stages in buying up land all around Old Trafford. The AI image in the Mirror is very, very AI and is not an architectural proposition (i mean, it looks silly but also simply makes no sense).
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The death of the football ground on 23:48 - Jan 31 with 3262 views
The death of the football ground on 20:01 - Jan 31 by Illinoisblue
Hard to describe just how awful Col U’s ground is. What on earth were they thinking? The design is bad enough but the location may as well be in Hell itself.
I believe they are the only Football League club in the post-Taylor era to have moved to a new stadium and seen their attendances fall (comparing the last season at the old stadium with the first at the new).
I went to uni in Reading - we were offered free tickets on a regular basis, but after the first trip to the Madjeski and realising how difficult it was to get there, very few people bothered taking them up afterwards.
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The death of the football ground on 05:00 - Feb 1 with 2989 views
They can't look any different, a giant doughnut is the optimal way to seat people around a pitch. As the desired capacity goes up, you will just end up with something that is rounder and rounder.
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The death of the football ground on 07:10 - Feb 1 with 2871 views
The death of the football ground on 19:24 - Jan 31 by Marshalls_Mullet
I think Old Trafford is a bit of a sh1t hole in an industrial estate.
St James Park is iconic though.
Agree about SJP. The whole experience of going there is great. Walking up from the station through the town via some great pubs on Grey Street to the Monument, seeing the ground towering over everything at the top of the hill as you approach, and then inside those massive stands are just awesome. Toon fans are good craic too. Definitely one of my favourite places I have ever watched football.
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The death of the football ground on 07:12 - Feb 1 with 2860 views
The death of the football ground on 20:21 - Jan 31 by jasondozzell
I went for the pre season friendly in 2023 (first sighting of Omari!) and it is just dreadful. I know Colchester really well and it's just such a trek out of town with nothing near it.
Looks like something chucked down near a road in a Sim City game!
They do a bus shuttle service from the station,well they did when I went anyway.
The death of the football ground on 23:22 - Jan 31 by urbanpenguin
OK I have done some googling.
There is a news article illustrated with AI-generated images of a stadium "design" for Man Utd.
There is another article with a random Alamy image of a generic blob-shaped stadium which is definitely not in Newcastle.
So unless I am missing something, I don't think any designs have been published.
As I understand it - as an architectural journalist - Man Utd are talking about possible solutions with Norman Foster and Populous. I suspect Newcastle are dealing with Populous also. Neither will be anywhere near design stage.
Newcastle have an extremely complicated site to contend with and while always have looked at the idea of a new stadium in a new location, have found the idea of leaving St James' too much. These owners may have less cares for tradition and force through whatever they want.
Manchester United have potentially a lot more space near their current ground, and it looks like they are in advanced stages in buying up land all around Old Trafford. The AI image in the Mirror is very, very AI and is not an architectural proposition (i mean, it looks silly but also simply makes no sense).
I did wonder what designs the OP was referring to
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The death of the football ground on 08:00 - Feb 1 with 2754 views
The death of the football ground on 23:22 - Jan 31 by urbanpenguin
OK I have done some googling.
There is a news article illustrated with AI-generated images of a stadium "design" for Man Utd.
There is another article with a random Alamy image of a generic blob-shaped stadium which is definitely not in Newcastle.
So unless I am missing something, I don't think any designs have been published.
As I understand it - as an architectural journalist - Man Utd are talking about possible solutions with Norman Foster and Populous. I suspect Newcastle are dealing with Populous also. Neither will be anywhere near design stage.
Newcastle have an extremely complicated site to contend with and while always have looked at the idea of a new stadium in a new location, have found the idea of leaving St James' too much. These owners may have less cares for tradition and force through whatever they want.
Manchester United have potentially a lot more space near their current ground, and it looks like they are in advanced stages in buying up land all around Old Trafford. The AI image in the Mirror is very, very AI and is not an architectural proposition (i mean, it looks silly but also simply makes no sense).
Thanks for that. I had only seen the 'mocked up' photos and perhaps I'm being unnecessarily cynical but I have very little faith that either party will avoid what has become the trend in modern stadia with US sports field style bowls.
Liverpool have done a good job because you can see that the new stent is still designed to fit in with the football ground and has nods to classic football architecture.
As someone who is close to it all through work, do you think any modern designs woek better than others?
I thought the inside of spurs ground was impressive but the outside just looks like a spaceship) airport to me. Everything looks like a shopping mall.
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The death of the football ground on 08:22 - Feb 1 with 2687 views
Everton’s is superb on 21:02 - Jan 31 by unstableblue
Great location Iconic shape and roof Tight as Goodison to the pitch Large single banks - kop - like stand Heritage building restored on site Steeply pitched so fans on top of play Only single level of hospitality (issue at Spurs) Fan centric design All him internal concourses linked so people can meet Huge terraces outside overlooking city centre and Mersey Significant nods to Goodison architectural features
Top class ground expected… let’s hope their injuries mean it’s showcasing Championship football
*but looks like a generic pro evo ground.
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Everton’s is superb on 14:19 - Feb 1 with 2124 views
Everton’s is superb on 21:02 - Jan 31 by unstableblue
Great location Iconic shape and roof Tight as Goodison to the pitch Large single banks - kop - like stand Heritage building restored on site Steeply pitched so fans on top of play Only single level of hospitality (issue at Spurs) Fan centric design All him internal concourses linked so people can meet Huge terraces outside overlooking city centre and Mersey Significant nods to Goodison architectural features
Top class ground expected… let’s hope their injuries mean it’s showcasing Championship football
Actually the concourses being looped round at Man Citys Ethiad was something that surprised me. Couod walk nearly all the way round. Perhaps the only advantage those grounds have.
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