| £500 a year better off a year 08:22 - Mar 27 with 7306 views | onceablue |
Under Labour.
Who the hell is she referring to.
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| £500 a year better off a year on 08:23 - Mar 27 with 3895 views | bournemouthblue |
Increase in the national living wage I'd assume |  |
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| £500 a year better off a year on 08:29 - Mar 27 with 3866 views | StokieBlue |
More than 50% of your recent threads are just criticising Labour. Some credit for diversity as you managed to get one in there criticising McKenna as well.
A quick search shows exactly where this figure comes from:
"Increases after that – a result of the end of the freeze in the personal tax thresholds – will take the average level of disposable income to £25,500 in 2029-30, according to the OBR. This is where the £500 quoted by the chancellor comes from, as it had previously predicted a figure of £25,000. For the current tax year, the OBR puts the average at £24,700, so the difference is actually £800."
Whether this turns out to be true is up for debate but what is clear is that it took me 20 seconds to find that so if you were really interested you could have found it as well. It's fairly clear what you're doing though.
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| £500 a year better off a year on 08:31 - Mar 27 with 3837 views | mutters |
After listening to her on Radio 4 this morning, my confidence in her is at an all time low. It's almost like she doesn't know (or care) about the impact she is making. |  |
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| £500 a year better off a year on 08:40 - Mar 27 with 3805 views | EJP |
Please can you edit and move this to the General thread? |  | | |
| £500 a year better off a year on 08:41 - Mar 27 with 3802 views | bluelagos |
Imagine her quoting the Office of budget responsibility rather than a renowned Twtd poster to parliament when it comes to our financial forecasts. |  |
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| £500 a year better off a year on 08:54 - Mar 27 with 3760 views | OldFart71 |
Let's get a few figures right. I am a pensioner and my increase on the O.A.P. is £34 per month. Before Christmas they cut the Winter Fuel Payment so I am £200 down there. HMRC has informed me due to the personal allowance staying at £12,570 that I will pay £253 more tax. Total now at £450. My Council tax has gone up £8 per month. Total now £530. Sky went up in January by £8 and then another £5 in March. Total now £686. Water up by £1 as I was £96 in credit. Total now £698. BT up by £2.41. Total now £726.92. All this without taking into account food prices. So I am £284.92 down on what I received in the last financial year. That's not taking into account what my fuel bill may be. Before the winter I was in credit by
well over £100. I am now around £30 in credit but my heating has been on 2/3rds less than last year and I am paying 28% more. I presume the £500 better off was worked out by Diane Abbott on her abacus for Rachel Reeves | | | |
| £500 a year better off a year on 08:59 - Mar 27 with 3704 views | ArnieM |
Not that Im a political animal , But I dont understand why Labour are not going after these huge International companies such as Costa Coffee (to name but one ), who flood the UK market place with their coffee out lets in every possible place ,making £bns PROFIT every year, and yet pay such proportionately low tax to the UK . WHY arent we taxing them far more..
There is also ( as usual) the argument about taxing more, the 1% super rich perhaps paying just 1% more (They'd not even miss it !), yet it would raise £bns's
Then there is that car crash and complete arse h** TRUMP : talk about causing world wide financial, destabilisation by his ridiculous financial actions., The guy is a bloody head case on a par with Putin. : In fact id say they're related somewhere down their lineage
I agree the money has to be raised but I'm gobsmacked a Labour Govt is targeting those at the bottom of the social demographic |  |
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| £500 a year better off a year on 09:03 - Mar 27 with 3681 views | NedPlimpton |
| £500 a year better off a year on 08:54 - Mar 27 by OldFart71 |
Let's get a few figures right. I am a pensioner and my increase on the O.A.P. is £34 per month. Before Christmas they cut the Winter Fuel Payment so I am £200 down there. HMRC has informed me due to the personal allowance staying at £12,570 that I will pay £253 more tax. Total now at £450. My Council tax has gone up £8 per month. Total now £530. Sky went up in January by £8 and then another £5 in March. Total now £686. Water up by £1 as I was £96 in credit. Total now £698. BT up by £2.41. Total now £726.92. All this without taking into account food prices. So I am £284.92 down on what I received in the last financial year. That's not taking into account what my fuel bill may be. Before the winter I was in credit by
well over £100. I am now around £30 in credit but my heating has been on 2/3rds less than last year and I am paying 28% more. I presume the £500 better off was worked out by Diane Abbott on her abacus for Rachel Reeves |
Hearing a pensioner moan about losing the winter fuel allowance alongside their Sky TV bill going up is everything that is wrong here! |  | | |
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| £500 a year better off a year on 09:05 - Mar 27 with 3633 views | bluejacko |
| £500 a year better off a year on 09:03 - Mar 27 by NedPlimpton |
Hearing a pensioner moan about losing the winter fuel allowance alongside their Sky TV bill going up is everything that is wrong here! |
So are you saying pensioners should live in the complete dark then🙄 | | | |
| £500 a year better off a year on 09:06 - Mar 27 with 3609 views | NedPlimpton |
| £500 a year better off a year on 09:05 - Mar 27 by bluejacko |
So are you saying pensioners should live in the complete dark then🙄 |
What on earth are you talking about? | | | |
| £500 a year better off a year on 09:11 - Mar 27 with 3558 views | homer_123 |
Morning gorgeous, I see you're as chipper as ever. |  |
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| £500 a year better off a year on 09:17 - Mar 27 with 3528 views | homer_123 |
| £500 a year better off a year on 08:59 - Mar 27 by ArnieM |
Not that Im a political animal , But I dont understand why Labour are not going after these huge International companies such as Costa Coffee (to name but one ), who flood the UK market place with their coffee out lets in every possible place ,making £bns PROFIT every year, and yet pay such proportionately low tax to the UK . WHY arent we taxing them far more..
There is also ( as usual) the argument about taxing more, the 1% super rich perhaps paying just 1% more (They'd not even miss it !), yet it would raise £bns's
Then there is that car crash and complete arse h** TRUMP : talk about causing world wide financial, destabilisation by his ridiculous financial actions., The guy is a bloody head case on a par with Putin. : In fact id say they're related somewhere down their lineage
I agree the money has to be raised but I'm gobsmacked a Labour Govt is targeting those at the bottom of the social demographic |
It's very simple.
Companies can operate within the UK but can easily ensure that from a financial perspective, any profits are taken offshore....it's not difficult.
It's not easy to simply 'tax' them.
I'm not saying that we shouldn't try... | |
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| £500 a year better off a year on 09:19 - Mar 27 with 3498 views | mutters |
| £500 a year better off a year on 09:03 - Mar 27 by NedPlimpton |
Hearing a pensioner moan about losing the winter fuel allowance alongside their Sky TV bill going up is everything that is wrong here! |
Not at all, people are feeling the squeeze across the board, sky is just an example of one of the many bills that are going up up up.
It feels like you missed the point that was being made | |
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| £500 a year better off a year on 09:20 - Mar 27 with 3479 views | Mullet |
| £500 a year better off a year on 09:05 - Mar 27 by bluejacko |
So are you saying pensioners should live in the complete dark then🙄 |
I’m not sure Sky is the best way to light your house ironically. But after years of young people hearing they should stop drinking coffee and eating bf avocados or whatnot, it does seem that a lot of pensioners don’t apply / have that applied to them in the same way.
Given they are such a key voting bloc it’s also telling what years of pandering and bribing pensioners does to win elections. That’s a systematic fault not a personal one, but we are back to yesterday’s ideas about deserving and undeserving poor aren’t we?
There seems to be a rife attitude of demanding others are shamed for their spending/choices but people feel their luxuries are sacred and should be factored in. Thats why this stuff gets so personal and emotive. |  |
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| £500 a year better off a year on 09:22 - Mar 27 with 3455 views | NedPlimpton |
| £500 a year better off a year on 09:19 - Mar 27 by mutters |
Not at all, people are feeling the squeeze across the board, sky is just an example of one of the many bills that are going up up up.
It feels like you missed the point that was being made |
I fully understand that bills are going up across the board. That's why I adjust my belt accordingly
The point I'm making is that the winter fuel allowance should be for those who need it most. Not to help subsidise tv subscriptions. I'd much rather the money from those those that lost the winter fuel allowance went towards those more in need | | | |
| £500 a year better off a year on 09:27 - Mar 27 with 3390 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| £500 a year better off a year on 08:54 - Mar 27 by OldFart71 |
Let's get a few figures right. I am a pensioner and my increase on the O.A.P. is £34 per month. Before Christmas they cut the Winter Fuel Payment so I am £200 down there. HMRC has informed me due to the personal allowance staying at £12,570 that I will pay £253 more tax. Total now at £450. My Council tax has gone up £8 per month. Total now £530. Sky went up in January by £8 and then another £5 in March. Total now £686. Water up by £1 as I was £96 in credit. Total now £698. BT up by £2.41. Total now £726.92. All this without taking into account food prices. So I am £284.92 down on what I received in the last financial year. That's not taking into account what my fuel bill may be. Before the winter I was in credit by
well over £100. I am now around £30 in credit but my heating has been on 2/3rds less than last year and I am paying 28% more. I presume the £500 better off was worked out by Diane Abbott on her abacus for Rachel Reeves |
I like how it's the government's fault your Sky bill has gone up. |  |
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| £500 a year better off a year on 09:27 - Mar 27 with 3390 views | homer_123 |
| £500 a year better off a year on 09:20 - Mar 27 by Mullet |
I’m not sure Sky is the best way to light your house ironically. But after years of young people hearing they should stop drinking coffee and eating bf avocados or whatnot, it does seem that a lot of pensioners don’t apply / have that applied to them in the same way.
Given they are such a key voting bloc it’s also telling what years of pandering and bribing pensioners does to win elections. That’s a systematic fault not a personal one, but we are back to yesterday’s ideas about deserving and undeserving poor aren’t we?
There seems to be a rife attitude of demanding others are shamed for their spending/choices but people feel their luxuries are sacred and should be factored in. Thats why this stuff gets so personal and emotive. |
Ah, my bad Mullers, I thought Sky was a necessity! | |
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| £500 a year better off a year on 09:52 - Mar 27 with 3211 views | baxterbasics |
Now I'm a lifelong 'never Labour' type, and even I'm starting to roll my eyes at these posts! |  |
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| £500 a year better off a year on 09:57 - Mar 27 with 3178 views | SaffronWaldenBlues |
| £500 a year better off a year on 08:31 - Mar 27 by mutters |
After listening to her on Radio 4 this morning, my confidence in her is at an all time low. It's almost like she doesn't know (or care) about the impact she is making. |
They are doing what they intended to do when elected. People who believe voting Labour or Conservative makes any difference (or is any different) would probably laugh at a 40-year-old who still believes in Father Christmas, and yet they are living in the same fantasy realm. |  |
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| £500 a year better off a year on 09:58 - Mar 27 with 3179 views | DJR |
| £500 a year better off a year on 08:54 - Mar 27 by OldFart71 |
Let's get a few figures right. I am a pensioner and my increase on the O.A.P. is £34 per month. Before Christmas they cut the Winter Fuel Payment so I am £200 down there. HMRC has informed me due to the personal allowance staying at £12,570 that I will pay £253 more tax. Total now at £450. My Council tax has gone up £8 per month. Total now £530. Sky went up in January by £8 and then another £5 in March. Total now £686. Water up by £1 as I was £96 in credit. Total now £698. BT up by £2.41. Total now £726.92. All this without taking into account food prices. So I am £284.92 down on what I received in the last financial year. That's not taking into account what my fuel bill may be. Before the winter I was in credit by
well over £100. I am now around £30 in credit but my heating has been on 2/3rds less than last year and I am paying 28% more. I presume the £500 better off was worked out by Diane Abbott on her abacus for Rachel Reeves |
Bit unfair to bring Diane Abbott into the discussion. She is no supporter of the Starmer project, as evidenced by the fact they attempted to prevent her standing as a Labour MP.
As regards your tax calculation, £34 per month works out at an extra £408 per year. Tax at 20% on that is £81.60.
Maybe you have a private pension too, which means you pay more tax because of that, but I assume that pension (which you don't mention) will also go up.
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| £500 a year better off a year on 10:07 - Mar 27 with 3114 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| £500 a year better off a year on 09:57 - Mar 27 by SaffronWaldenBlues |
They are doing what they intended to do when elected. People who believe voting Labour or Conservative makes any difference (or is any different) would probably laugh at a 40-year-old who still believes in Father Christmas, and yet they are living in the same fantasy realm. |
No they're not. | |
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| £500 a year better off a year on 10:42 - Mar 27 with 2987 views | Ftnfwest |
us in 2030.... probably |  | | |
| £500 a year better off a year on 10:46 - Mar 27 with 2969 views | mutters |
| £500 a year better off a year on 09:22 - Mar 27 by NedPlimpton |
I fully understand that bills are going up across the board. That's why I adjust my belt accordingly
The point I'm making is that the winter fuel allowance should be for those who need it most. Not to help subsidise tv subscriptions. I'd much rather the money from those those that lost the winter fuel allowance went towards those more in need |
No I agree about the belt tightening, the whole concept of sky TV is an interesting one as the cost of it ranges significantly depending on what type of package you sign up for.
The whole winter fuel situation is an interesting one. My dad used to always wonder why he got it each year as he was fortunate to not need it. As there was no way to reject it every year he would donate it to charity, so I am completely onboard with it being means tested. So long as it's done in a fair way. | |
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| £500 a year better off a year on 10:51 - Mar 27 with 2936 views | mutters |
| £500 a year better off a year on 09:57 - Mar 27 by SaffronWaldenBlues |
They are doing what they intended to do when elected. People who believe voting Labour or Conservative makes any difference (or is any different) would probably laugh at a 40-year-old who still believes in Father Christmas, and yet they are living in the same fantasy realm. |
Did you listen to her this morning? When challenged on the impact to carers allowance and disability payments directly she floundered. She seems to not realize that the proposed cuts will have a serious impact on those who labour historically have fought for.
Tories in another skin, but maybe that is where UK policits sit these days? | |
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| £500 a year better off a year on 11:00 - Mar 27 with 2882 views | DJR |
| £500 a year better off a year on 10:51 - Mar 27 by mutters |
Did you listen to her this morning? When challenged on the impact to carers allowance and disability payments directly she floundered. She seems to not realize that the proposed cuts will have a serious impact on those who labour historically have fought for.
Tories in another skin, but maybe that is where UK policits sit these days? |
I've said this before but Reeves, Starmer and Streeting come across to me as automatons who lack empathy.
Perhaps it is this that makes them unaware of the consequences of what they are doing, and thus able to do things that are anathema to the Labour movement.
And lurking behind is Morgan McSweeney, who must also take the blame for the political ineptness of what they are doing in relation to carers and the disabled. [Post edited 27 Mar 11:01]
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