| Dara O'Shea ... 15:23 - Apr 23 with 3939 views | Bellevue_Blue |
Seen a lot of people mention O'Shea as a nailed on exit but I for one can't see him leaving.
It would have to be a solid mid table Prem side and if that's the case you're probably talking £25M given we signed him for £15M? That to me does not feel like a hugely attractive price.
If it's someone like Leeds I'd feel pretty confident. I know players live on the road nowadays but I'm not sure moving to a third club in three seasons would be top of the priority list for his young family.
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| Dara O'Shea ... on 15:25 - Apr 23 with 3155 views | textbackup |
He jumped ship from Burnley to us and didn’t bat an eyelid.
Burnley were always a fav to bounce straight back again too.
If Leeds/Burnley/playoff winners come for him, and the price is right, he’ll go with no worries. |  |
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| Dara O'Shea ... on 15:25 - Apr 23 with 3160 views | _clive_baker_ |
I think there will be interest in him, from decent sides as well. Could very well seeing the likes of Wolves & Brentford being keen given his age and experience. He's every bit a Premier league player IMO and well worth £25m. |  | | |
| Dara O'Shea ... on 15:27 - Apr 23 with 3133 views | IPSWICHFANITFC |
We won't get £25m for him. I think £15m/whatever we paid for him is probably what we will be looking for.
At the end of the day, every player has a price and every player has ambitions to play at the highest level. I don't think we will get in the way of him leaving but I do hope he stays. |  |
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| Dara O'Shea ... on 15:29 - Apr 23 with 3095 views | gainsboroughblue |
He may well find himself in an endless loop of going to clubs who then get relegated.
Which means, he may even be back here next summer. |  |
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| Dara O'Shea ... on 15:36 - Apr 23 with 2976 views | Dennyx4 |
| Dara O'Shea ... on 15:27 - Apr 23 by IPSWICHFANITFC |
We won't get £25m for him. I think £15m/whatever we paid for him is probably what we will be looking for.
At the end of the day, every player has a price and every player has ambitions to play at the highest level. I don't think we will get in the way of him leaving but I do hope he stays. |
I think we would want to make a profit on him, however small that may be.
I do think he is one that will be looked at by a few lower end Premier sides, would like him to stay, and we don’t have to sell. |  | | |
| Dara O'Shea ... on 15:36 - Apr 23 with 2979 views | Bellevue_Blue |
| Dara O'Shea ... on 15:25 - Apr 23 by textbackup |
He jumped ship from Burnley to us and didn’t bat an eyelid.
Burnley were always a fav to bounce straight back again too.
If Leeds/Burnley/playoff winners come for him, and the price is right, he’ll go with no worries. |
He would have had his justifications for coming here but at some stage he and his family will come to crave a little bit of stability.
Maybe he will go but three clubs in three years with every possibility he would be in the same position again 12 months down the line feels like less of a straight forward decision. [Post edited 23 Apr 15:37]
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| Dara O'Shea ... on 15:40 - Apr 23 with 2925 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Dara O'Shea ... on 15:25 - Apr 23 by textbackup |
He jumped ship from Burnley to us and didn’t bat an eyelid.
Burnley were always a fav to bounce straight back again too.
If Leeds/Burnley/playoff winners come for him, and the price is right, he’ll go with no worries. |
For both recent relegations, Burnley have struggled financially, with big loan repayments due and having to offload players (verging on fire sales both times).
They needed to shift O'Shea and others. We are not in a similar position, and have no need to sell many high value assets after Delap leaves. [Post edited 23 Apr 15:48]
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| Dara O'Shea ... on 15:40 - Apr 23 with 2923 views | Sarge |
To be honest aside from Delap I wouldn’t really be too worried about losing any of our PL signings. I don’t think we signed anyone who was a serious upgrade on who was already here and therefore I don’t think we’ll suffer too much if we lose any of them.
I’d be far more concerned about losing Hirst given what he brings to the team and our longstanding inability to sign strikers. | | | |
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| Dara O'Shea ... on 15:41 - Apr 23 with 2885 views | algy |
| Dara O'Shea ... on 15:29 - Apr 23 by gainsboroughblue |
He may well find himself in an endless loop of going to clubs who then get relegated.
Which means, he may even be back here next summer. |
Perhaps he's after Herman's record | |
| I was there when McKenna's ITFC won in the Premier League at Home. |
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| Dara O'Shea ... on 15:47 - Apr 23 with 2829 views | Jon_456 |
| Dara O'Shea ... on 15:40 - Apr 23 by SuffolkPunchFC |
For both recent relegations, Burnley have struggled financially, with big loan repayments due and having to offload players (verging on fire sales both times).
They needed to shift O'Shea and others. We are not in a similar position, and have no need to sell many high value assets after Delap leaves. [Post edited 23 Apr 15:48]
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Yep.
Think some people underestimate the ambition of the club. They won’t be looking to just break even on high potential assets, we signed them to ensure the squad keeps improving. | | | |
| Dara O'Shea ... on 15:53 - Apr 23 with 2755 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Dara O'Shea ... on 15:40 - Apr 23 by Sarge |
To be honest aside from Delap I wouldn’t really be too worried about losing any of our PL signings. I don’t think we signed anyone who was a serious upgrade on who was already here and therefore I don’t think we’ll suffer too much if we lose any of them.
I’d be far more concerned about losing Hirst given what he brings to the team and our longstanding inability to sign strikers. |
If this happened, we'd be heading the way of Norwich and maybe Luton. Many of the signings have a much higher ceiling and are younger.
Don't forget, many that brought us through the Championship are now 2 years older, and some are approaching the twilight of their playing career at the top.
Now is the time to develop the potential we invested in over the past 12 months, not let sentiment attach us to the genuine heroes, but aging players, from the previous L1 and Championship campaigns. | | | |
| Dara O'Shea ... on 15:54 - Apr 23 with 2744 views | catch74 |
He’s been captain when Morsy hasn’t been playing, think that signals our intentions and hopefully helps keep him here. Morsy will be playing less and less. |  |
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| Dara O'Shea ... on 15:58 - Apr 23 with 2678 views | BtreeBlueBlood |
Now with all the ins n outs this season!
I feel we need to get our house in order before preseason!
75% of team get a full pre season into them! |  | | |
| Dara O'Shea ... on 16:09 - Apr 23 with 2611 views | Len_Brennan |
O'Shea wasn't keen on coming here initially, due to the likelihood of us being relegated & his previous unfortunate record of relegations. There was interest in him from both Brentford & Wolves, and given the ultimate choice, he would have picked either over us.
That is no slight on the club, the manager, the fans or the town, but a reasonable analysis of his career prospects at that time. As other trading took place, and signings were made, he lost out on those moves & McKenna moved in for him again, despite being well down the road on recruiting the lad from Sheff Utd. At this point we were his best remaining option & he was impressed by McKenna tbf.
We cannot fault his choices in the summer, nor can we now question his utter commitment to Ipswich Town since signing; he is a Premier League level player & a total professional.
We won't be forced to sell him for financial reasons, nor will we want him to go, so he should be worth in excess of £20m, however ... given his history, & his justifiable concerns about relegation before signing, he MAY have one of those dreaded clauses in his contract that allows him to go if a certain value is met! | | | |
| Dara O'Shea ... on 16:16 - Apr 23 with 2549 views | Axeldalai_lama |
| Dara O'Shea ... on 15:40 - Apr 23 by Sarge |
To be honest aside from Delap I wouldn’t really be too worried about losing any of our PL signings. I don’t think we signed anyone who was a serious upgrade on who was already here and therefore I don’t think we’ll suffer too much if we lose any of them.
I’d be far more concerned about losing Hirst given what he brings to the team and our longstanding inability to sign strikers. |
I think that's beyond naive to be honest.
It's the age old players get better the less they are played. We stepped up to pretty much the highest level in the club game, and the new players struggled a bit, shocking. That in no way means they aren't an improvement on those who clearly did amazingly well to get us up and who will forever be held in massively high regard. |  | | |
| Dara O'Shea ... on 16:42 - Apr 23 with 2381 views | textbackup |
| Dara O'Shea ... on 15:40 - Apr 23 by SuffolkPunchFC |
For both recent relegations, Burnley have struggled financially, with big loan repayments due and having to offload players (verging on fire sales both times).
They needed to shift O'Shea and others. We are not in a similar position, and have no need to sell many high value assets after Delap leaves. [Post edited 23 Apr 15:48]
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I get there isn’t the need to, but he’s proven a capable CB in the PL. if someone comes calling, I don’t see he’d want to stay. | |
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| Dara O'Shea ... on 17:00 - Apr 23 with 2262 views | cressi |
| Dara O'Shea ... on 15:40 - Apr 23 by Sarge |
To be honest aside from Delap I wouldn’t really be too worried about losing any of our PL signings. I don’t think we signed anyone who was a serious upgrade on who was already here and therefore I don’t think we’ll suffer too much if we lose any of them.
I’d be far more concerned about losing Hirst given what he brings to the team and our longstanding inability to sign strikers. |
I agree to a point I'd like to keep Palmer Hutchinson and Hirst. But we have lots of decent championship players. | | | |
| Dara O'Shea ... on 17:23 - Apr 23 with 2168 views | dirtyboy |
| Dara O'Shea ... on 16:42 - Apr 23 by textbackup |
I get there isn’t the need to, but he’s proven a capable CB in the PL. if someone comes calling, I don’t see he’d want to stay. |
I think the club would likely cash in on O'Shea if the opportunity arose, purely as he's one I think would go for more than the £12m or so we paid for him.
I think it's obvious Delap will go, that's a chunk, so if we made £20m on a couple of sales, I don't think we'd be significantly weaker and I still think we'd be a stronger side than the one that got promoted.
All conjecture at this point, nice to discuss having assets that are actually worth more than we paid for them though lol! |  | | |
| Dara O'Shea ... on 17:23 - Apr 23 with 2168 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Dara O'Shea ... on 15:25 - Apr 23 by textbackup |
He jumped ship from Burnley to us and didn’t bat an eyelid.
Burnley were always a fav to bounce straight back again too.
If Leeds/Burnley/playoff winners come for him, and the price is right, he’ll go with no worries. |
Exactly. It’s not necessarily nailed on, but there’s some logic in thinking that anyone who we signed this season could be the subject of interest from another PL team, given that last year there was interest from a PL team!
And you can possibly throw in one or two of our older team to that list, as the rumour of interest in Hirst may show. As I’ve said before, I think more players will move on than some people expect.
There’s rarely loyalty in football at the best of times, never mind when there’s a PL wage on offer. And that’s fine and to be expected. I’ll have no hard feelings against anyone choosing to move on. |  |
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| Dara O'Shea ... on 17:27 - Apr 23 with 2146 views | textbackup |
| Dara O'Shea ... on 17:23 - Apr 23 by Swansea_Blue |
Exactly. It’s not necessarily nailed on, but there’s some logic in thinking that anyone who we signed this season could be the subject of interest from another PL team, given that last year there was interest from a PL team!
And you can possibly throw in one or two of our older team to that list, as the rumour of interest in Hirst may show. As I’ve said before, I think more players will move on than some people expect.
There’s rarely loyalty in football at the best of times, never mind when there’s a PL wage on offer. And that’s fine and to be expected. I’ll have no hard feelings against anyone choosing to move on. |
Nope, chance to earn more, in the top league. Grab it while you can! | |
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| Dara O'Shea ... on 17:32 - Apr 23 with 2128 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Dara O'Shea ... on 16:42 - Apr 23 by textbackup |
I get there isn’t the need to, but he’s proven a capable CB in the PL. if someone comes calling, I don’t see he’d want to stay. |
You may be right, but a lot depends on the conversation we have with him.
Future captain with an ambitious club aiming to bounce back at first try may appeal to him. Ofc, if a club competing for Europe / already in Europe came calling, that's going to be incredibly tempting to him. Do any of those now have a berth for him though? So he might be trading another season in the EPL with a strong relegation likelihood. [Post edited 23 Apr 17:57]
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| Dara O'Shea ... on 17:49 - Apr 23 with 2021 views | mellowblue |
| Dara O'Shea ... on 17:32 - Apr 23 by SuffolkPunchFC |
You may be right, but a lot depends on the conversation we have with him.
Future captain with an ambitious club aiming to bounce back at first try may appeal to him. Ofc, if a club competing for Europe / already in Europe came calling, that's going to be incredibly tempting to him. Do any of those now have a berth for him though? So he might be trading another season in the EPL with a strong relegation likelihood. [Post edited 23 Apr 17:57]
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If he is married with children, it could be uprooting them yet again would not be an attractive proposition. Also would a season in a lower division actually winning games be such a disaster. I would not have thought so. Would still be on Premier wages. | | | |
| Dara O'Shea ... on 17:52 - Apr 23 with 2007 views | Dennyx4 |
| Dara O'Shea ... on 17:49 - Apr 23 by mellowblue |
If he is married with children, it could be uprooting them yet again would not be an attractive proposition. Also would a season in a lower division actually winning games be such a disaster. I would not have thought so. Would still be on Premier wages. |
There may well be a relegation clause for both wages and release fee? | | | |
| Dara O'Shea ... on 17:54 - Apr 23 with 1992 views | textbackup |
| Dara O'Shea ... on 17:49 - Apr 23 by mellowblue |
If he is married with children, it could be uprooting them yet again would not be an attractive proposition. Also would a season in a lower division actually winning games be such a disaster. I would not have thought so. Would still be on Premier wages. |
I’d guess he, like others, have a relegation clause whereby his wage decreases by a % | |
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| Dara O'Shea ... on 17:56 - Apr 23 with 1984 views | J2BLUE |
Depends what the relegation clause if for his salary.
I don't think he will necessarily want to leave, especially for a newly promoted club. Well aware he came here but players don't usually wish to leave McKenna, and even though this is a new situation, he might look at the manager/owners/squad and want to be part of the long term future as captain with a potential promotion on his CV rather than a hat trick of relegations. |  |
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