| Reform 06:58 - May 2 with 28903 views | Benters |
Well done.
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| Reform on 20:26 - May 2 with 1435 views | CoachRob |
| Reform on 14:56 - May 2 by lowhouseblue |
i keep referencing legal net immigration because it amounts to getting of for a million people a year. small boats are a tiny number and for many of them we have a legal duty to accept them. making a dangerous crossing should be stopped, but the number involved is small compared to legal immigration. 70% of the public think total immigration is too high as do i. i keep posting that net immigration has been 3 million in 4 years - but no one comes back to argue that that number is sustainable or it has no effect on, for example, the housing crisis. even the most vocal on here don't seem to want to defend the current level of mass immigration. |
You posted nonsense about fiscal rules and this garbage on immigration. Simon, who I don't agree with on economics and what is required to tackle the mounting challenges, is always incredibly polite explaining Neoclassical theories - he knows his onions. Your understanding is just amateurish nonsense and bares no resemblance to the professionals that assist me.
If you ever feel like presenting your objections to ergodicity economics let me know, I could do with a laugh after seeing the total lack of effort this government has put into adaptation.
One thing I never understand is why there is such a lack of transparency; no references, no context to why you think what you do. Can you give me the name of a living economist that you think is credible?
Oh and you have just talked past Stokie and not directly addressed his points. |  | | |
| Reform on 20:32 - May 2 with 1391 views | Herbivore |
| Reform on 18:39 - May 2 by lowhouseblue |
you never have any answers, mate. so much self-regard and contempt for different views, so little to ever back any of it up. |
I just don't like dishonesty, and you're rotten with it. |  |
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| Reform on 20:37 - May 2 with 1370 views | noggin |
| Reform on 20:26 - May 2 by CoachRob |
You posted nonsense about fiscal rules and this garbage on immigration. Simon, who I don't agree with on economics and what is required to tackle the mounting challenges, is always incredibly polite explaining Neoclassical theories - he knows his onions. Your understanding is just amateurish nonsense and bares no resemblance to the professionals that assist me.
If you ever feel like presenting your objections to ergodicity economics let me know, I could do with a laugh after seeing the total lack of effort this government has put into adaptation.
One thing I never understand is why there is such a lack of transparency; no references, no context to why you think what you do. Can you give me the name of a living economist that you think is credible?
Oh and you have just talked past Stokie and not directly addressed his points. |
Yeah but immigrants and that. |  |
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| Reform on 21:41 - May 2 with 1254 views | Herbivore |
| Reform on 19:56 - May 2 by lowhouseblue |
again, remember from this very thread: "People will vote for them anyway as their base don't care about competence, they only care about kicking brown people out of the country."
this is a line always repeated on here be it about brexit voters or reform voters. those people are constantly called racists and the social composition of those groups is very well established. contempt for the working class is now almost a defining characteristic of the online left in the uk.
you do realise that reform just won runcorn and helsby a largely working class and previously safe labour seat? so those are the sort of voters who apparently "only care about kicking brown people out of the country". |
When you've been shown to be a liar, doubling down on your lie is a bold move, I'll give you that. | |
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| Reform on 21:48 - May 2 with 1232 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Reform on 17:53 - May 2 by Nthsuffolkblue |
At least Farage says it as it is ...
"there isn't any money for the NHS."
"we need lower taxes, cheaper booze and fags and to be allowed to smoke wherever we want to."
"there are too many foreigners coming in and swamping us, we're full."
"the EU are a bunch of foreigners we should steer well clear of."
"now let me take my money and swan off somewhere else and laugh at you all." |
Bluebudgie, care to explain which of these is not an accurate representation of everything that Farage stands for?
Or to offer anything else that he stands for? |  |
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| Reform on 22:16 - May 2 with 1174 views | lowhouseblue |
| Reform on 21:41 - May 2 by Herbivore |
When you've been shown to be a liar, doubling down on your lie is a bold move, I'll give you that. |
you can't engage in discussion and you have never have answers when challenged. insulting people, declaring that you are right, and belittling anyone who holds different views isn't discussion it's just being arrogant and shouty. i'm sure in real life you know this to be true. hey ho. |  |
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| Reform on 22:27 - May 2 with 1133 views | lowhouseblue |
| Reform on 20:26 - May 2 by CoachRob |
You posted nonsense about fiscal rules and this garbage on immigration. Simon, who I don't agree with on economics and what is required to tackle the mounting challenges, is always incredibly polite explaining Neoclassical theories - he knows his onions. Your understanding is just amateurish nonsense and bares no resemblance to the professionals that assist me.
If you ever feel like presenting your objections to ergodicity economics let me know, I could do with a laugh after seeing the total lack of effort this government has put into adaptation.
One thing I never understand is why there is such a lack of transparency; no references, no context to why you think what you do. Can you give me the name of a living economist that you think is credible?
Oh and you have just talked past Stokie and not directly addressed his points. |
what in this thread is garbage about immigration? and can you answer without name dropping, being insulting or including tangents about neoclassical economics please. | |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Reform on 23:04 - May 2 with 1072 views | BlueRobin |
| Reform on 22:16 - May 2 by lowhouseblue |
you can't engage in discussion and you have never have answers when challenged. insulting people, declaring that you are right, and belittling anyone who holds different views isn't discussion it's just being arrogant and shouty. i'm sure in real life you know this to be true. hey ho. |
As a first time poster to this forum, I have read these posts with some amazement. The points you have made are clear, and unarguable. The ad hominems, without addressing the points of the argument from Herbivore, are really quite extraordinary. Does this person have any reasoning for the clearly poorly thought out views they had!? |  | | |
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| Reform on 23:11 - May 2 with 1038 views | vapour_trail |
| Reform on 23:04 - May 2 by BlueRobin |
As a first time poster to this forum, I have read these posts with some amazement. The points you have made are clear, and unarguable. The ad hominems, without addressing the points of the argument from Herbivore, are really quite extraordinary. Does this person have any reasoning for the clearly poorly thought out views they had!? |
Welcome to twtd.
An obvious first post, nothing untoward here.
Do you have a favourite cheese? |  |
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| Reform on 23:13 - May 2 with 1031 views | BlueRobin |
| Reform on 21:41 - May 2 by Herbivore |
When you've been shown to be a liar, doubling down on your lie is a bold move, I'll give you that. |
You're coming across very poorly here. Undeveloped views, and defensive arrogance. Red card, mate | | | |
| Reform on 23:19 - May 2 with 1006 views | Herbivore |
| Reform on 22:16 - May 2 by lowhouseblue |
you can't engage in discussion and you have never have answers when challenged. insulting people, declaring that you are right, and belittling anyone who holds different views isn't discussion it's just being arrogant and shouty. i'm sure in real life you know this to be true. hey ho. |
If you can explain to everyone how 20% of working class voters is the entire working class in a way that isn't ridiculous then you might save a bit of face. Otherwise, I've scraped better off my shoe quite honestly. | |
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| Reform on 23:22 - May 2 with 1000 views | BlueRobin |
| Reform on 23:19 - May 2 by Herbivore |
If you can explain to everyone how 20% of working class voters is the entire working class in a way that isn't ridiculous then you might save a bit of face. Otherwise, I've scraped better off my shoe quite honestly. |
He didn't say it was "the entire working class". He gave you the figures. Are you being deliberately obtuse? Red card, 4 game ban. Don't post again. | | | |
| Reform on 23:26 - May 2 with 973 views | BlueRobin |
| Reform on 22:27 - May 2 by lowhouseblue |
what in this thread is garbage about immigration? and can you answer without name dropping, being insulting or including tangents about neoclassical economics please. |
Honestly, the responses to your very reasinable posts are unbelievable. These idiots pose stupid questions that have no answers. Reading the thread - Stokie Blue is one of the worst. Multiculturalism and immigration may be seen as a great success on Church Street, but take a walk through Ipswich and tell the poor beggers living in terraced housing in Ipswich that it's working well. Shocking heads up arrises attitudes from these morons | | | |
| Reform on 23:27 - May 2 with 970 views | Herbivore |
| Reform on 23:22 - May 2 by BlueRobin |
He didn't say it was "the entire working class". He gave you the figures. Are you being deliberately obtuse? Red card, 4 game ban. Don't post again. |
Lowie, setting up an alt that can use caps isn't the flex you think it is. | |
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| Reform on 23:27 - May 2 with 970 views | BlueRobin |
| Reform on 23:11 - May 2 by vapour_trail |
Welcome to twtd.
An obvious first post, nothing untoward here.
Do you have a favourite cheese? |
The Baron. By God its good | | | |
| Reform on 23:28 - May 2 with 963 views | vapour_trail |
| Reform on 23:27 - May 2 by BlueRobin |
The Baron. By God its good |
Shefki or Pablo? | |
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| Reform on 23:29 - May 2 with 957 views | BlueRobin |
| Reform on 23:27 - May 2 by Herbivore |
Lowie, setting up an alt that can use caps isn't the flex you think it is. |
You're embarrassing yourself. No one has the time or the money for your underdeveloped sixth form politics. | | | |
| Reform on 23:29 - May 2 with 955 views | Herbivore |
Think this one would probably go for Nathan Ellington looking at the horses he's backed so far. | |
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| Reform on 23:30 - May 2 with 945 views | Herbivore |
| Reform on 23:29 - May 2 by BlueRobin |
You're embarrassing yourself. No one has the time or the money for your underdeveloped sixth form politics. |
I'm not sure it's me who's embarrassing myself, princess. | |
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| Reform on 23:32 - May 2 with 938 views | BlueRobin |
| Reform on 23:30 - May 2 by Herbivore |
I'm not sure it's me who's embarrassing myself, princess. |
And you've just doe it again. You have nothing of any substance to say. Just insults and incoherent points. You're not even worth muting. Thicko | | | |
| Reform on 23:34 - May 2 with 928 views | Herbivore |
| Reform on 23:32 - May 2 by BlueRobin |
And you've just doe it again. You have nothing of any substance to say. Just insults and incoherent points. You're not even worth muting. Thicko |
Lowie, put down the brandy and the alt who can use caps. It's getting tragic at this point. | |
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| Reform on 23:38 - May 2 with 921 views | BlueRobin |
| Reform on 23:34 - May 2 by Herbivore |
Lowie, put down the brandy and the alt who can use caps. It's getting tragic at this point. |
Who's Lowie, and what are you talking about? Anyway, ayour views are tragic. Your intelligence is negligible. You repeat talking points you've heard others discuss with no understanding what you are advocating, and you have absolutely no reasoning skills. You left school at 16, but wish you'd been able to go to the local college after sixth form to discuss politics with those who understand as little as you do. | | | |
| Reform on 23:42 - May 2 with 903 views | Herbivore |
| Reform on 23:38 - May 2 by BlueRobin |
Who's Lowie, and what are you talking about? Anyway, ayour views are tragic. Your intelligence is negligible. You repeat talking points you've heard others discuss with no understanding what you are advocating, and you have absolutely no reasoning skills. You left school at 16, but wish you'd been able to go to the local college after sixth form to discuss politics with those who understand as little as you do. |
Put down the brandy, Lowie, ffs. | |
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| Reform on 23:43 - May 2 with 900 views | NeedhamChris |
| Reform on 23:19 - May 2 by Herbivore |
If you can explain to everyone how 20% of working class voters is the entire working class in a way that isn't ridiculous then you might save a bit of face. Otherwise, I've scraped better off my shoe quite honestly. |
He's not said that though, has he.
Lowhouse has rightly pointed out the relatively higher support for Reform UK within the working class compared to other classes. If people say voting Reform = racist, then on that logic the working class are more likely to be racist too.
In fairness, you have correctly pointed out that the majority of working-class voters still support other major parties. Reassuringly, you're right.
Neither of your points is necessarily contradictory with each other - but only one of you is being an abusive, sanctimonious troll, and it's not Lowhouse. | |
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