| If The FA, UEFA, FIFA, really wanted fair competition... 09:55 - May 30 with 1178 views | norfsufblue |
Would they not ban buy back clauses, sell on clauses and release clauses?
They could also do something about total club squad numbers limiting how many youngsters could hoover up...
But then you couldnt really keep everyone in their " rightful" place i suppose?
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| If The FA, UEFA, FIFA, really wanted fair competition... on 09:57 - May 30 with 1154 views | WeirdFishes |
Sell on clauses I think are fair however the buy back is not. Essentially creates a system for the big clubs to circumvent FFP and loan rules. |  |
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| If The FA, UEFA, FIFA, really wanted fair competition... on 10:30 - May 30 with 1054 views | Swansea_Blue |
I’d scrap Bosmans. It seems daft that players can run their contracts down denying the clubs an opportunity to recoup some of the cost of their contract (or make a profit where they’ve developed the player). |  |
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| If The FA, UEFA, FIFA, really wanted fair competition... on 10:44 - May 30 with 1033 views | naa |
| If The FA, UEFA, FIFA, really wanted fair competition... on 10:30 - May 30 by Swansea_Blue |
I’d scrap Bosmans. It seems daft that players can run their contracts down denying the clubs an opportunity to recoup some of the cost of their contract (or make a profit where they’ve developed the player). |
You can't scrap Bosmans. They are part of contract law that it was found football was breaching some years back.
A footballer is just an employee and no other company can demand compensation or stop someone leaving who isn't contracted to them in any way.
There may well be unpleasant side effects of it, but it's the law. |  | | |
| If The FA, UEFA, FIFA, really wanted fair competition... on 10:47 - May 30 with 1019 views | positivity |
| If The FA, UEFA, FIFA, really wanted fair competition... on 09:57 - May 30 by WeirdFishes |
Sell on clauses I think are fair however the buy back is not. Essentially creates a system for the big clubs to circumvent FFP and loan rules. |
sell on clauses can be massive for small clubs | |
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| If The FA, UEFA, FIFA, really wanted fair competition... on 11:03 - May 30 with 975 views | Steve_M |
I can't see any problem with sell-on clauses.
Buy backs on the other hand look like the same sort of restriction on trade that lead to the Bosman ruling in the first place. Different in character but quite restrictive for the worker (putting aside that they are generally well rewarded). |  |
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| If The FA, UEFA, FIFA, really wanted fair competition... on 11:12 - May 30 with 946 views | Swansea_Blue |
| If The FA, UEFA, FIFA, really wanted fair competition... on 10:44 - May 30 by naa |
You can't scrap Bosmans. They are part of contract law that it was found football was breaching some years back.
A footballer is just an employee and no other company can demand compensation or stop someone leaving who isn't contracted to them in any way.
There may well be unpleasant side effects of it, but it's the law. |
Ah, fair enough 👍 | |
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| If The FA, UEFA, FIFA, really wanted fair competition... on 11:13 - May 30 with 946 views | Jon_456 |
| If The FA, UEFA, FIFA, really wanted fair competition... on 10:30 - May 30 by Swansea_Blue |
I’d scrap Bosmans. It seems daft that players can run their contracts down denying the clubs an opportunity to recoup some of the cost of their contract (or make a profit where they’ve developed the player). |
So if you signed a 1year FTC with your workplace and then they prevented you from ever leaving unless another company pays a lump sum for you, you’d be ok with that? | | | |
| If The FA, UEFA, FIFA, really wanted fair competition... on 11:44 - May 30 with 900 views | textbackup |
We don’t care if we benefit from them… but suddenly care because it’s gone against us? |  |
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| If The FA, UEFA, FIFA, really wanted fair competition... on 11:48 - May 30 with 892 views | HungryLikeTheWoolf |
| If The FA, UEFA, FIFA, really wanted fair competition... on 10:44 - May 30 by naa |
You can't scrap Bosmans. They are part of contract law that it was found football was breaching some years back.
A footballer is just an employee and no other company can demand compensation or stop someone leaving who isn't contracted to them in any way.
There may well be unpleasant side effects of it, but it's the law. |
I don't disagree, but I wonder if eventually there'll be some sort of mandatory compensation to happen to the club the player leaves, like how if a youth player leaves us for another club, a panel works out a compensation amount for us to be awarded, I believe? |  | | |
| If The FA, UEFA, FIFA, really wanted fair competition... on 12:02 - May 30 with 861 views | skinnybob72 |
PL has a squad cap of 25 senior (over 21) players.
I would go further - I would have a maximum number of senior players that any club could sign / own, maybe 30 to allow for injuries - but that extra 5 would also be the maximum number of senior players that a club could loan out.
That would mean the bigger clubs couldn't hoard players and should mean more players available to sign for other clubs, it might even reduce the transfer fees with less clubs vying for the same players. | | | |
| If The FA, UEFA, FIFA, really wanted fair competition... on 14:43 - May 30 with 732 views | ITFC_Forever |
It’s really simple.
A far higher proportion of Prem income should go down the pyramid and scrap Parachute payments. |  |
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| If The FA, UEFA, FIFA, really wanted fair competition... on 15:51 - May 30 with 664 views | Radlett_blue |
| If The FA, UEFA, FIFA, really wanted fair competition... on 10:30 - May 30 by Swansea_Blue |
I’d scrap Bosmans. It seems daft that players can run their contracts down denying the clubs an opportunity to recoup some of the cost of their contract (or make a profit where they’ve developed the player). |
Good luck with taking that to the European Court of Justice! Of course, if Farage & Reform UK get in, maybe the Premier League can ignore the men in wigs (as Arthur Scargill once famously said). |  |
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| If The FA, UEFA, FIFA, really wanted fair competition... on 15:58 - May 30 with 639 views | mellowblue |
| If The FA, UEFA, FIFA, really wanted fair competition... on 11:03 - May 30 by Steve_M |
I can't see any problem with sell-on clauses.
Buy backs on the other hand look like the same sort of restriction on trade that lead to the Bosman ruling in the first place. Different in character but quite restrictive for the worker (putting aside that they are generally well rewarded). |
and the player has no right of refusal. | | | |
| If The FA, UEFA, FIFA, really wanted fair competition... on 16:25 - May 30 with 602 views | Radlett_blue |
| If The FA, UEFA, FIFA, really wanted fair competition... on 12:02 - May 30 by skinnybob72 |
PL has a squad cap of 25 senior (over 21) players.
I would go further - I would have a maximum number of senior players that any club could sign / own, maybe 30 to allow for injuries - but that extra 5 would also be the maximum number of senior players that a club could loan out.
That would mean the bigger clubs couldn't hoard players and should mean more players available to sign for other clubs, it might even reduce the transfer fees with less clubs vying for the same players. |
I would ban all loans, except possibly for players aged under 21. That would discourage clubs from hoarding players & encourage players to join clubs where they might get some decent game time. | |
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| If The FA, UEFA, FIFA, really wanted fair competition... on 16:26 - May 30 with 599 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
They care about money, not that stuff. |  | | |
| If The FA, UEFA, FIFA, really wanted fair competition... on 16:54 - May 30 with 550 views | monty_radio |
| If The FA, UEFA, FIFA, really wanted fair competition... on 15:51 - May 30 by Radlett_blue |
Good luck with taking that to the European Court of Justice! Of course, if Farage & Reform UK get in, maybe the Premier League can ignore the men in wigs (as Arthur Scargill once famously said). |
wigless himself, he did however stretch the comb-over to unlikely dimensions. | |
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| If The FA, UEFA, FIFA, really wanted fair competition... on 23:26 - May 30 with 380 views | Plums |
| If The FA, UEFA, FIFA, really wanted fair competition... on 16:25 - May 30 by Radlett_blue |
I would ban all loans, except possibly for players aged under 21. That would discourage clubs from hoarding players & encourage players to join clubs where they might get some decent game time. |
I'd certainly ban loans into the same division. It's so open to abuse that has potential to distort the competition. Having players in the dressing rooms of multiple clubs is a recipe for industrial espionage on a grand scale. |  |
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| If The FA, UEFA, FIFA, really wanted fair competition... on 00:20 - May 31 with 344 views | Kropotkin123 |
| If The FA, UEFA, FIFA, really wanted fair competition... on 10:47 - May 30 by positivity |
sell on clauses can be massive for small clubs |
Bit of a p*ss-take for clubs like Man City though. They buy up ridiculous amounts of young talent, sell them on to clubs like us and then demand a sell on fee.
I'm not intelligent enough to see a way around it though. Need to project the small clubs and as you say, it can be massive for them |  |
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| If The FA, UEFA, FIFA, really wanted fair competition... on 08:27 - May 31 with 192 views | Swansea_Blue |
| If The FA, UEFA, FIFA, really wanted fair competition... on 14:43 - May 30 by ITFC_Forever |
It’s really simple.
A far higher proportion of Prem income should go down the pyramid and scrap Parachute payments. |
A lot of issues can be traced back to the formation of the Premier League. We should only have one professional league imo. Then you could have a better trickle-down arrangements. You also wouldn’t have the ridiculous situation where teams yo-yo-ing can breach PSR rules but delay or avoid sanctions because they’re now under a different jurisdiction. | |
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| If The FA, UEFA, FIFA, really wanted fair competition... on 09:56 - May 31 with 133 views | pointofblue |
| If The FA, UEFA, FIFA, really wanted fair competition... on 14:43 - May 30 by ITFC_Forever |
It’s really simple.
A far higher proportion of Prem income should go down the pyramid and scrap Parachute payments. |
Agreed. The money is there; they should realign the amount won over position so they is something like - taking an arbitrary amount - £50,000 per league position instead of the millions difference there is. Particularly between the Premier League and the Championship.
EPPP needs to be scrapped as well. A hideous plan which has just helped the rich get richer and kept the smaller clubs in their place. | |
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| If The FA, UEFA, FIFA, really wanted fair competition... on 10:20 - May 31 with 110 views | Radlett_blue |
| If The FA, UEFA, FIFA, really wanted fair competition... on 08:27 - May 31 by Swansea_Blue |
A lot of issues can be traced back to the formation of the Premier League. We should only have one professional league imo. Then you could have a better trickle-down arrangements. You also wouldn’t have the ridiculous situation where teams yo-yo-ing can breach PSR rules but delay or avoid sanctions because they’re now under a different jurisdiction. |
Most other countries don't try to sustain a pyramid of over 100 full time professional clubs. most of whom are regularly loss-making. Handing them more money is pointless as most of them will fritter it away on higher wages. | |
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