| Three PL clubs monitoring O’Shea on 13:35 - Jun 5 with 3537 views | homer_123 |
It's a link to the Sun rag website.....avoid |  |
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| Three PL clubs monitoring O’Shea on 13:38 - Jun 5 with 3461 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
Down arrow for making click a link to that dog end newspaper. |  |
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| Three PL clubs monitoring O’Shea on 13:51 - Jun 5 with 3299 views | ElderGrizzly |
I think I said on a thread earlier in the week, he was one I feared might be off.
Agree with your point he should look to settle down at some point, but I'm assuming he has a relegation wage clause here and he could get all that money back at one of those clubs.
And I don't think being made Captain will make one bit of difference to that decision, when we are probably talking £750k to £1m a year difference. |  | | |
| Three PL clubs monitoring O’Shea on 13:52 - Jun 5 with 3282 views | SitfcB |
| Three PL clubs monitoring O’Shea on 13:51 - Jun 5 by ElderGrizzly |
I think I said on a thread earlier in the week, he was one I feared might be off.
Agree with your point he should look to settle down at some point, but I'm assuming he has a relegation wage clause here and he could get all that money back at one of those clubs.
And I don't think being made Captain will make one bit of difference to that decision, when we are probably talking £750k to £1m a year difference. |
He could become a bit of a sl*g! Say he went to Leeds and straight back down again, would he look to go back to the PL yet again! |  |
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| Three PL clubs monitoring O’Shea on 13:55 - Jun 5 with 3231 views | ParisBlue |
| Three PL clubs monitoring O’Shea on 13:52 - Jun 5 by SitfcB |
He could become a bit of a sl*g! Say he went to Leeds and straight back down again, would he look to go back to the PL yet again! |
A defender who gets relegated each year - has to be a limit to the number of times you can move back up.
Wolves interested last summer, but didn't have the finances. Could see him at Leeds, if they need him. |  |
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| Three PL clubs monitoring O’Shea on 13:57 - Jun 5 with 3206 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Three PL clubs monitoring O’Shea on 13:55 - Jun 5 by ParisBlue |
A defender who gets relegated each year - has to be a limit to the number of times you can move back up.
Wolves interested last summer, but didn't have the finances. Could see him at Leeds, if they need him. |
Ramsdale is making a career out of it. Maybe he says he gets lots of practice... | | | |
| Three PL clubs monitoring O’Shea on 13:59 - Jun 5 with 3163 views | _clive_baker_ |
He's every bit a premier league player for me. One I really hope we can keep hold of as he can definitely step back up with us if we make it, and has leadership qualities that would make him an ideal captain IMO. |  | | |
| Three PL clubs monitoring O’Shea on 14:01 - Jun 5 with 3146 views | FromReuserWithLove |
More players gonna leave than we all think. |  | | |
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| Three PL clubs monitoring O’Shea on 14:04 - Jun 5 with 3102 views | IPSWICHFANITFC |
Would have been surprised if we went in to the season with O'Shea and Greaves. O'Shea is aerially strong, can handle and be aggressive in 1 on 1 duals and is athletic. For a side in the bottom 5 of the PL, they're attributes that you want in a CB. A what we paid for you fee is probably fair (max £15m I'm guessing). Seeing shouts that people want £25m/£30m will be way off.
Woolfenden and Greaves compliment each other quite well in my opinion, and if Burgess is off, I felt O'Shea and Burgess complimented each other better as a pairing anyway, so it could work out. [Post edited 5 Jun 14:06]
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| Three PL clubs monitoring O’Shea on 14:06 - Jun 5 with 3061 views | StokieBlue |
We don't need to sell though right?
Haven't heard any mention of a minimum fee on his contract so just ask for very silly money that we would accept.
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| Three PL clubs monitoring O’Shea on 14:13 - Jun 5 with 2955 views | bsw72 |
| Three PL clubs monitoring O’Shea on 13:52 - Jun 5 by SitfcB |
He could become a bit of a sl*g! Say he went to Leeds and straight back down again, would he look to go back to the PL yet again! |
I would suggest wh*re is the more appropriate term, rather than sl*g. |  | | |
| Three PL clubs monitoring O’Shea on 14:14 - Jun 5 with 2937 views | bsw72 |
| Three PL clubs monitoring O’Shea on 14:06 - Jun 5 by StokieBlue |
We don't need to sell though right?
Haven't heard any mention of a minimum fee on his contract so just ask for very silly money that we would accept.
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We're well protected on O'Shea. Def info.
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| Three PL clubs monitoring O’Shea on 14:24 - Jun 5 with 2875 views | portmanking |
Selling back to Burnley would make the most financial sense. We still owe £7m-£8m in instalments so it could be a mutual benefit for both clubs. |  | | |
| Three PL clubs monitoring O’Shea on 14:24 - Jun 5 with 2877 views | Herbivore |
I think I'm likely in the minority on this one, but if someone offered us money that meant a decent little profit (say a bid of close to £20m) I'd probably take it. He did fine for a lot of the season but he also made quite a few errors at times (not always punished) and he's not good enough on the ball for the way we like to play. Personally, I don't think he's a huge upgrade on Woolf all things considered and I think we could reinvest the money elsewhere without being significantly weakened by his departure. |  |
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| Three PL clubs monitoring O’Shea on 14:27 - Jun 5 with 2827 views | FromReuserWithLove |
| Three PL clubs monitoring O’Shea on 14:24 - Jun 5 by Herbivore |
I think I'm likely in the minority on this one, but if someone offered us money that meant a decent little profit (say a bid of close to £20m) I'd probably take it. He did fine for a lot of the season but he also made quite a few errors at times (not always punished) and he's not good enough on the ball for the way we like to play. Personally, I don't think he's a huge upgrade on Woolf all things considered and I think we could reinvest the money elsewhere without being significantly weakened by his departure. |
Agree that he isnt a huge upgrade but do think he has a couple of attributes that set him apart and would be really evident at Championship level.
Pace - he is really quick across the ground which can get him out of jail.
First contact - He's very aggressive in the air and wins a lot of first contacts.
Both of those things Woolfy is weak at imo. | | | |
| Three PL clubs monitoring O’Shea on 14:27 - Jun 5 with 2825 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Three PL clubs monitoring O’Shea on 14:24 - Jun 5 by Herbivore |
I think I'm likely in the minority on this one, but if someone offered us money that meant a decent little profit (say a bid of close to £20m) I'd probably take it. He did fine for a lot of the season but he also made quite a few errors at times (not always punished) and he's not good enough on the ball for the way we like to play. Personally, I don't think he's a huge upgrade on Woolf all things considered and I think we could reinvest the money elsewhere without being significantly weakened by his departure. |
I think even if O’Shea went, McKenna would look to replace him leaving Woolf on the sidelines still. Just a hunch. |  |
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| Three PL clubs monitoring O’Shea on 14:28 - Jun 5 with 2818 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Three PL clubs monitoring O’Shea on 14:24 - Jun 5 by Herbivore |
I think I'm likely in the minority on this one, but if someone offered us money that meant a decent little profit (say a bid of close to £20m) I'd probably take it. He did fine for a lot of the season but he also made quite a few errors at times (not always punished) and he's not good enough on the ball for the way we like to play. Personally, I don't think he's a huge upgrade on Woolf all things considered and I think we could reinvest the money elsewhere without being significantly weakened by his departure. |
Its a tough one. Realistically post Delap we've probably only got 3 players that would command £20m+ and they're O'Shea, Davis and Omari. If you told me we have to lose 1 of them for financial reasons you could make a case that the other 2 are more valuable to us. Ideally we keep them all, but maybe that's unrealistic. | | | |
| Three PL clubs monitoring O’Shea on 14:28 - Jun 5 with 2816 views | Kieran_Knows |
Wouldn’t want him to go at all, but happy to sacrifice the sale of O’Shea if it meant Hutchinson stayed. | |
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| Three PL clubs monitoring O’Shea on 14:28 - Jun 5 with 2808 views | StokieBlue |
| Three PL clubs monitoring O’Shea on 14:24 - Jun 5 by portmanking |
Selling back to Burnley would make the most financial sense. We still owe £7m-£8m in instalments so it could be a mutual benefit for both clubs. |
How is it of mutual benefit to us if we don't need the money and already have a quality player?
I can only really see the value in selling if:
- It's a whopper offer
- It means we can keep other more important players (Hutch) but I believe he has a release fee so that isn't really in our hands.
SB [Post edited 5 Jun 14:30]
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| Three PL clubs monitoring O’Shea on 14:29 - Jun 5 with 2803 views | Garv |
| Three PL clubs monitoring O’Shea on 14:24 - Jun 5 by Herbivore |
I think I'm likely in the minority on this one, but if someone offered us money that meant a decent little profit (say a bid of close to £20m) I'd probably take it. He did fine for a lot of the season but he also made quite a few errors at times (not always punished) and he's not good enough on the ball for the way we like to play. Personally, I don't think he's a huge upgrade on Woolf all things considered and I think we could reinvest the money elsewhere without being significantly weakened by his departure. |
Big upgrade in Premier League terms, though. And that's where we aim to be.
For what it's worth I thought LW did very very little wrong when he played this season. |  |
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| Three PL clubs monitoring O’Shea on 14:30 - Jun 5 with 2772 views | portmanking |
| Three PL clubs monitoring O’Shea on 14:28 - Jun 5 by StokieBlue |
How is it of mutual benefit to us if we don't need the money and already have a quality player?
I can only really see the value in selling if:
- It's a whopper offer
- It means we can keep other more important players (Hutch) but I believe he has a release fee so that isn't really in our hands.
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It's £7m-£8m saved on the balance sheet that could strengthen our case to repel further bids for Leif or Omari. | | | |
| Three PL clubs monitoring O’Shea on 14:31 - Jun 5 with 2763 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Three PL clubs monitoring O’Shea on 14:28 - Jun 5 by StokieBlue |
How is it of mutual benefit to us if we don't need the money and already have a quality player?
I can only really see the value in selling if:
- It's a whopper offer
- It means we can keep other more important players (Hutch) but I believe he has a release fee so that isn't really in our hands.
SB [Post edited 5 Jun 14:30]
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I imagine we're going to be in a situation where we don't need to sell, but the player makes it clear if a deal can be done, he'd like to leave.
Wage difference? Ambition? Location? With those linked all being further up North for O'Shea may be a draw.
Does anyone know, did he ever buy somewhere down here when he joined, or is his family still up near Burnley? | | | |
| Three PL clubs monitoring O’Shea on 14:33 - Jun 5 with 2725 views | portmanking |
| Three PL clubs monitoring O’Shea on 14:24 - Jun 5 by Herbivore |
I think I'm likely in the minority on this one, but if someone offered us money that meant a decent little profit (say a bid of close to £20m) I'd probably take it. He did fine for a lot of the season but he also made quite a few errors at times (not always punished) and he's not good enough on the ball for the way we like to play. Personally, I don't think he's a huge upgrade on Woolf all things considered and I think we could reinvest the money elsewhere without being significantly weakened by his departure. |
Yep, he's quick and a beast in the air, but his distribution is bang average (it really is) and his positional awareness isn't good.
If we can sell O'Shea for £20m and buy Japhet Tanganga for comparable peanuts from Millwall I'd do it. On the proviso we kept Leif and Omari too, of course. | | | |
| Three PL clubs monitoring O’Shea on 14:34 - Jun 5 with 2700 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Three PL clubs monitoring O’Shea on 14:31 - Jun 5 by ElderGrizzly |
I imagine we're going to be in a situation where we don't need to sell, but the player makes it clear if a deal can be done, he'd like to leave.
Wage difference? Ambition? Location? With those linked all being further up North for O'Shea may be a draw.
Does anyone know, did he ever buy somewhere down here when he joined, or is his family still up near Burnley? |
Probably just rents if he's moving every 12 months. Stamp duty's a killer. | | | |
| Three PL clubs monitoring O’Shea on 14:35 - Jun 5 with 2676 views | StokieBlue |
| Three PL clubs monitoring O’Shea on 14:30 - Jun 5 by portmanking |
It's £7m-£8m saved on the balance sheet that could strengthen our case to repel further bids for Leif or Omari. |
It's not though really because as others have said, we will probably look to replace him so some of that money will be spent on a replacement.
It's been posted on here that Hutch has a release clause - might be nonsense but if it's not then we can't repel a certain level of bid.
With regards to capital, I didn't think we really need to sell to repel bids?
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