| If Omari and Axel leave…. 11:03 - Jun 23 with 2974 views | Horsham |
And it’s beginning to feel like they likelier will than won’t, I think it’ll be tricky replacing them.
Ramblings below
We have pretty good options in the building already. Take right back, we have Johnson and who may not have pulled up trees last last season but ultimately still been good enough in his career to do a job in the PL over a number of seasons. We also have Clarke, and again he’s not always been perfect but ultimately still was good enough to be Sheff U’s first choice RB.
It’s even more complex with Omari, where we already have 4 other big signings (and in this theory elite championship players) in Clarke, Philogene, Ogbene and Szmodics plus the 3 who were good enough to make a massive contribution to us getting to the PL. That’s a pretty decent amount of quality even without Omari.
So I guess the challenge would be to sign players better than Johnson and the 4 we brought in last season or stick with the players we already have in the building.
Have a half a thought that if Omari and Axel go we might not replace them directly and instead focus recruitment in other areas. |  | | |  |
| If Omari and Axel leave…. on 11:23 - Jun 23 with 2473 views | Denny32 |
It's moat likely now that omari, axel. And cajuste,and possibly o shea will all leave,plus the others that have gone,ie delap ,Phillips enciso..burgess we are now down to the Bare bones of championship side which on the face of it will be just about competitive in the new season..what mckenna does next will be interesting. Does he get in players with Premier ship experience and if we get back to Premier ship then we will be in a better place and more ready than having to gel in a lot of new players from the start and be caught cold and then playing catch up ..or if he just brings in younger players and just about gets us out of the league be it autos or play off s.well then it's a half another build of new players to help us compete. And basically we are back to deja vu...Will we have more physical robust players this time and not being easily pushed around, or wil mckenna do similar Again as regards just bringing in technically gifted players regardless of size..?? it will be interesting to see how the summer recruitment goes..will definitely give us an insight in to his way of thinking about how to prepare better ,having had the experience of playing with the big boys... |  | | |
| If Omari and Axel leave…. on 11:29 - Jun 23 with 2387 views | Guthrum |
I may have missed something in the last week, but why does it seem likelier that Hutchinson and Tuanzebe will leave than stay? [Post edited 23 Jun 11:30]
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| If Omari and Axel leave…. on 11:38 - Jun 23 with 2249 views | glasso |
| If Omari and Axel leave…. on 11:29 - Jun 23 by Guthrum |
I may have missed something in the last week, but why does it seem likelier that Hutchinson and Tuanzebe will leave than stay? [Post edited 23 Jun 11:30]
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Because they haven't held their own press conferences to tell us that they're staying forever and have bought houses within a mile of the training ground. | | | |
| If Omari and Axel leave…. on 11:38 - Jun 23 with 2244 views | ReusersTown |
| If Omari and Axel leave…. on 11:23 - Jun 23 by Denny32 |
It's moat likely now that omari, axel. And cajuste,and possibly o shea will all leave,plus the others that have gone,ie delap ,Phillips enciso..burgess we are now down to the Bare bones of championship side which on the face of it will be just about competitive in the new season..what mckenna does next will be interesting. Does he get in players with Premier ship experience and if we get back to Premier ship then we will be in a better place and more ready than having to gel in a lot of new players from the start and be caught cold and then playing catch up ..or if he just brings in younger players and just about gets us out of the league be it autos or play off s.well then it's a half another build of new players to help us compete. And basically we are back to deja vu...Will we have more physical robust players this time and not being easily pushed around, or wil mckenna do similar Again as regards just bringing in technically gifted players regardless of size..?? it will be interesting to see how the summer recruitment goes..will definitely give us an insight in to his way of thinking about how to prepare better ,having had the experience of playing with the big boys... |
Based on... Absolutely nothing. | | | |
| If Omari and Axel leave…. on 11:39 - Jun 23 with 2236 views | NedPlimpton |
| If Omari and Axel leave…. on 11:29 - Jun 23 by Guthrum |
I may have missed something in the last week, but why does it seem likelier that Hutchinson and Tuanzebe will leave than stay? [Post edited 23 Jun 11:30]
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Has Omari even been properly linked with anyone yet??
Even if Omari were to leave, we're hardly short of quality championship forwards! |  | | |
| If Omari and Axel leave…. on 11:44 - Jun 23 with 2134 views | wrightsrightglove |
I think we’ll actually see less leave than I initially anticipated (I thought Davis and O’Shea might go but now not so sure). I think it’ll look something like the below. Hopefully Ogbene is ready for the new season to challenge for the right wing spot, burns I assume will take a bit longer. Broadhead might go as well. So I make that 5/6 signings, 3 permanent, 2/3 loans. We should be able to focus on real quality which improves us moving forwards
Out: Delap, Omari, Muric (European loan), Slicker (loan), Harness, Al-Hamadi, Luongo, Tuanzebe, Burgess
In: 1 x LCB, 2 x CM, 1st choice striker, young 3rd choice striker
I think our starting 11 will be:
Palmer
Johnson - O’Shea - Greaves - Davis
New - Morsy
Philogene - Szmodics - Clarke
New ST
Second 11:
Walton
Clarke - Wolf - New CB - Townsend
New - Taylor
Ogbene - Chaplin - Broadhead
Hirst
Squad:
Young GK, Burns, Kone or similar, Humphries (if not loaned) | | | |
| If Omari and Axel leave…. on 11:47 - Jun 23 with 2074 views | NthQldITFC |
| If Omari and Axel leave…. on 11:23 - Jun 23 by Denny32 |
It's moat likely now that omari, axel. And cajuste,and possibly o shea will all leave,plus the others that have gone,ie delap ,Phillips enciso..burgess we are now down to the Bare bones of championship side which on the face of it will be just about competitive in the new season..what mckenna does next will be interesting. Does he get in players with Premier ship experience and if we get back to Premier ship then we will be in a better place and more ready than having to gel in a lot of new players from the start and be caught cold and then playing catch up ..or if he just brings in younger players and just about gets us out of the league be it autos or play off s.well then it's a half another build of new players to help us compete. And basically we are back to deja vu...Will we have more physical robust players this time and not being easily pushed around, or wil mckenna do similar Again as regards just bringing in technically gifted players regardless of size..?? it will be interesting to see how the summer recruitment goes..will definitely give us an insight in to his way of thinking about how to prepare better ,having had the experience of playing with the big boys... |
"Do you really like it, is it, is it wicked, I'm lovin' it, lovin' it, lovin' it, I'm lovin' it like that." |  |
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| If Omari and Axel leave…. on 11:48 - Jun 23 with 2055 views | ipswichtillidie |
| If Omari and Axel leave…. on 11:39 - Jun 23 by NedPlimpton |
Has Omari even been properly linked with anyone yet??
Even if Omari were to leave, we're hardly short of quality championship forwards! |
Exactly and even if he were to leave we’d receive £35m and increase our budget this summer substantially. |  |
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| If Omari and Axel leave…. on 11:50 - Jun 23 with 2016 views | Swansea_Blue |
I’ll be delighted, but surprised, if they’re both here at the end of the window. You never know though. Stranger things have happened. Leif would be my biggest worry - he’s so important to our attacking play. More-so that Hutch really.
If they go, we should be in a good position to replace. The possible biggest issue is that KM seems to go for players with a high ceiling but who take a long time to get up to speed. Omari being a classic example. |  |
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| If Omari and Axel leave…. on 11:56 - Jun 23 with 1874 views | Denny32 |
| If Omari and Axel leave…. on 11:38 - Jun 23 by ReusersTown |
Based on... Absolutely nothing. |
You do know we are now in the championship !! Or were you asleep for a very long time lol | | | |
| If Omari and Axel leave…. on 11:57 - Jun 23 with 1861 views | Illinoisblue |
Midfield remains an issue |  |
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| If Omari and Axel leave…. on 12:04 - Jun 23 with 1726 views | bsw72 |
| If Omari and Axel leave…. on 11:57 - Jun 23 by Illinoisblue |
Midfield remains an issue |
Only the deeper CM holding positions, at least for the coming Championship season.
As does coverage for centre forward.
Apart from that . . . we currently have a squad of 21 players all with a mix of Championship and Premier league experience with contracts due to run to June 2026 and beyond, add to that players like Al Hamadi and Clark due to return from loans.
Our squad is far more experienced than it was at the start of 23-24 and the coverage / improvement of CM and CF is where I expect our business to be done, plus replacement of any players leaving if they choose to. |  | | |
| If Omari and Axel leave…. on 12:08 - Jun 23 with 1682 views | gsoly |
If Axel goes we will 100% spend big on a RB of a similar profile. |  | | |
| If Omari and Axel leave…. on 12:08 - Jun 23 with 1679 views | ReusersTown |
| If Omari and Axel leave…. on 11:56 - Jun 23 by Denny32 |
You do know we are now in the championship !! Or were you asleep for a very long time lol |
So, it's more likely than when we were in the Prem? Well done on working that out. You might want to clarify that in your post, and work on your punctuation. | | | |
| If Omari and Axel leave…. on 12:12 - Jun 23 with 1642 views | Axeldalai_lama |
| If Omari and Axel leave…. on 11:57 - Jun 23 by Illinoisblue |
Midfield remains an issue |
But it's such an obvious issue that it's hardly worth bringing up, in a way. It simply has to be addressed and obviously will be. As comparatively bad as they were in the prem, in no world can we lose Phillips, Cajuste, and Luongo, have our oldest first teamer get another year past prime, have the one player with the faintest of glimmers of stepping up not do so, and think we'd be okay muddling through. |  | | |
| If Omari and Axel leave…. on 12:22 - Jun 23 with 1504 views | _clive_baker_ |
Axel's obviously exploring his options which he's entitled to do. Presumably he'll need to make a decision pretty soon though as he won't be under contract from next week and we'll want him back for pre season if he's staying.
Omari I wouldn't make more likely to leave than stay. He'll certainly be one we'll be doing everything to keep hold of and £35m (if true as a release clause) isn't an insignificant sum for a club to pay. |  | | |
| If Omari and Axel leave…. on 12:39 - Jun 23 with 1312 views | tractorboy1978 |
| If Omari and Axel leave…. on 11:23 - Jun 23 by Denny32 |
It's moat likely now that omari, axel. And cajuste,and possibly o shea will all leave,plus the others that have gone,ie delap ,Phillips enciso..burgess we are now down to the Bare bones of championship side which on the face of it will be just about competitive in the new season..what mckenna does next will be interesting. Does he get in players with Premier ship experience and if we get back to Premier ship then we will be in a better place and more ready than having to gel in a lot of new players from the start and be caught cold and then playing catch up ..or if he just brings in younger players and just about gets us out of the league be it autos or play off s.well then it's a half another build of new players to help us compete. And basically we are back to deja vu...Will we have more physical robust players this time and not being easily pushed around, or wil mckenna do similar Again as regards just bringing in technically gifted players regardless of size..?? it will be interesting to see how the summer recruitment goes..will definitely give us an insight in to his way of thinking about how to prepare better ,having had the experience of playing with the big boys... |
Bare bones of a Championship side that has:
3 players that made Championship team of the season in 23/24
The player who got the most assists in 23/24
The top scorer from 23/24
The keeper with the joint most clean sheets from 23/24
6 players that scored 10+ goals in 23/24 | | | |
| If Omari and Axel leave…. on 12:42 - Jun 23 with 1264 views | Horsham |
| If Omari and Axel leave…. on 11:29 - Jun 23 by Guthrum |
I may have missed something in the last week, but why does it seem likelier that Hutchinson and Tuanzebe will leave than stay? [Post edited 23 Jun 11:30]
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For sure I have no insight but I think there’s a logic that holds that Omari has been prominent with England U21’s in their so far successful campaign and that may have moved the dial to ever so slightly in terms of the money teams might be willing to pay and the longer Axel goes without signing a new deal the less likely he is to sign on. | | | |
| If Omari and Axel leave…. on 12:50 - Jun 23 with 1194 views | tractorboy1978 |
| If Omari and Axel leave…. on 12:42 - Jun 23 by Horsham |
For sure I have no insight but I think there’s a logic that holds that Omari has been prominent with England U21’s in their so far successful campaign and that may have moved the dial to ever so slightly in terms of the money teams might be willing to pay and the longer Axel goes without signing a new deal the less likely he is to sign on. |
Equally, the longer he goes without signing one elsewhere, the more likely he is to sign here. Depends how you look at it. | | | |
| If Omari and Axel leave…. on 13:17 - Jun 23 with 963 views | Denny32 |
| If Omari and Axel leave…. on 12:08 - Jun 23 by ReusersTown |
So, it's more likely than when we were in the Prem? Well done on working that out. You might want to clarify that in your post, and work on your punctuation. |
So sorry you can't read properly | | | |
| If Omari and Axel leave…. on 13:24 - Jun 23 with 885 views | Horsham |
| If Omari and Axel leave…. on 12:50 - Jun 23 by tractorboy1978 |
Equally, the longer he goes without signing one elsewhere, the more likely he is to sign here. Depends how you look at it. |
True. Although my gut instinct is pessimistic about our prospects of keeping him. | | | |
| If Omari and Axel leave…. on 13:25 - Jun 23 with 859 views | NedPlimpton |
| If Omari and Axel leave…. on 13:24 - Jun 23 by Horsham |
True. Although my gut instinct is pessimistic about our prospects of keeping him. |
Based on the OP your gut instinct is intrinsically glass half empty! [Post edited 23 Jun 13:26]
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| If Omari and Axel leave…. on 13:27 - Jun 23 with 834 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
If Omari stays he will rip up the league. I think he will go but as mentioned he is yet to be seriously linked with someone. So who knows.
Hamer seemed a certainty to leave Blades last summer and he stayed and won POTS. Hopefully Omari can do the same. |  |
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| If Omari and Axel leave…. on 14:11 - Jun 23 with 663 views | Illinoisblue |
| If Omari and Axel leave…. on 12:12 - Jun 23 by Axeldalai_lama |
But it's such an obvious issue that it's hardly worth bringing up, in a way. It simply has to be addressed and obviously will be. As comparatively bad as they were in the prem, in no world can we lose Phillips, Cajuste, and Luongo, have our oldest first teamer get another year past prime, have the one player with the faintest of glimmers of stepping up not do so, and think we'd be okay muddling through. |
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| If Omari and Axel leave…. on 14:27 - Jun 23 with 542 views | Horsham |
| If Omari and Axel leave…. on 13:25 - Jun 23 by NedPlimpton |
Based on the OP your gut instinct is intrinsically glass half empty! [Post edited 23 Jun 13:26]
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I think that’s a bit harsh. Sure my gut feeling is they will probably both leave but I’m pretty 55/45 about it and also was also pointing out the quality of the potential replacements we already have on the books.
Pretty much every championship team would be chuffed to have Johnson and Clarke to choose from at right back and 3 from Ogbene, Philogene, Szmodics, Clarke, Burns, Chaplin and Broadhead to play behind the striker: | | | |
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