| Corbyn's new party launched 21:11 - Jul 3 with 2663 views | bluelagos |
Guess time will tell how successful they are or whether it serves Reform/Tories by further splitting the left vote? |  |
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| Corbyn's new party launched on 09:04 - Jul 4 with 666 views | Ftnfwest |
People’s front against Judea? |  | | |
| Corbyn's new party launched on 09:37 - Jul 4 with 648 views | RegencyBlue |
| Corbyn's new party launched on 09:04 - Jul 4 by Ftnfwest |
People’s front against Judea? |
More like Jezbollah! |  | | |
| Corbyn's new party launched on 09:57 - Jul 4 with 588 views | J2BLUE |
| Corbyn's new party launched on 23:04 - Jul 3 by positivity |
where does it mention that in the press statement?
(edit missed j2's reply, inclined to agree with banksy that it'll be *an* issue, but plenty of fertile ground elsewhere for it not to be the main one. however, it'll get nowhere if jezza is in charge; some nice ideas, but a dreadful leader), they'd be better if joining the greens if they wanted to provide a real alternative [Post edited 3 Jul 23:15]
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I can't think of a worse leader than Corbyn when you look at the state of the world. It would be a disaster.
Farage and Corbyn, two disastrous options which we must avoid. |  |
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| Corbyn's new party launched on 10:03 - Jul 4 with 556 views | positivity |
| Corbyn's new party launched on 09:57 - Jul 4 by J2BLUE |
I can't think of a worse leader than Corbyn when you look at the state of the world. It would be a disaster.
Farage and Corbyn, two disastrous options which we must avoid. |
totally agree on farage, but jezza would get nowhere near being pm, so no need to worry about that eventuality!
i was talking more about the new party; if they want to establish themselves as a genuine alternative, they need much, much better |  |
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| Corbyn's new party launched on 10:07 - Jul 4 with 534 views | baxterbasics |
| Corbyn's new party launched on 21:30 - Jul 3 by Bugs |
There isn't a left vote. Choices are Reform very hard right. Tories, not quite so very hard right. Labour, very right. Lib Dems right to centre right depending on how the wind blows. All of them are neoliberal, just some are less bad than others. [Post edited 3 Jul 21:35]
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| Corbyn's new party launched on 10:16 - Jul 4 with 521 views | Herbivore |
| Corbyn's new party launched on 10:07 - Jul 4 by baxterbasics |
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A sh!t meme that you've liked on a sh!t social media platform isn't much of a counter-argument, mate. |  |
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| Corbyn's new party launched on 10:21 - Jul 4 with 491 views | positivity |
| Corbyn's new party launched on 10:07 - Jul 4 by baxterbasics |
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i thought thatcher died, how's she got a blue tick? | |
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| Corbyn's new party launched on 10:31 - Jul 4 with 457 views | Herbivore |
| Corbyn's new party launched on 10:21 - Jul 4 by positivity |
i thought thatcher died, how's she got a blue tick? |
She lives on in the ruins of our social fabric and public services. | |
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| Corbyn's new party launched on 12:30 - Jul 4 with 357 views | DJR |
| Corbyn's new party launched on 10:07 - Jul 4 by baxterbasics |
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The irony is that Harold MacMIllan (who warned against selling off the family silver) would be regarded as hard left these day given how far to the right the political centre of gravity has moved. |  | | |
| Corbyn's new party launched on 12:35 - Jul 4 with 332 views | DJR |
Without PR, a new left party is likely to be whistling in the wind. | | | |
| Corbyn's new party launched on 14:00 - Jul 4 with 255 views | jayessess |
| Corbyn's new party launched on 12:35 - Jul 4 by DJR |
Without PR, a new left party is likely to be whistling in the wind. |
Would've said the same thing about UKIP/Reform. Challenge is to be competitive enough that it forces Labour to address your issues. |  |
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| Corbyn's new party launched on 14:02 - Jul 4 with 250 views | bluelagos |
Looks like Jezza is now onboard too
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| Corbyn's new party launched on 14:03 - Jul 4 with 243 views | baxterbasics |
| Corbyn's new party launched on 14:00 - Jul 4 by jayessess |
Would've said the same thing about UKIP/Reform. Challenge is to be competitive enough that it forces Labour to address your issues. |
Yup, this is what is known as a blackmail party. Not likely to win power, but threatens the big guns enough to influence policy. Exactly what UKIP/Reform have been doing for some time. | |
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| Corbyn's new party launched on 14:10 - Jul 4 with 223 views | positivity |
| Corbyn's new party launched on 14:00 - Jul 4 by jayessess |
Would've said the same thing about UKIP/Reform. Challenge is to be competitive enough that it forces Labour to address your issues. |
they're going to need someone new and charismatic if they want to challenge the greens, let alone labour.
jezza has too much baggage and not enough charm to provide that | |
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| Corbyn's new party launched on 14:12 - Jul 4 with 217 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Corbyn's new party launched on 10:07 - Jul 4 by baxterbasics |
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I’m not so sure about that. There has definitely been a rightward shift in many policies from the main two parties and rhetoric in general from newer parties (e.g. Reform and the two new recent offshoots from it) and the media. When I say rightward, I mean mainly in regard to the policies and language used around immigration. What used to be the reserve of the fringe far right like BNP is now pretty common. |  |
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| Corbyn's new party launched on 14:26 - Jul 4 with 183 views | unbelievablue |
| Corbyn's new party launched on 22:14 - Jul 3 by J2BLUE |
The alliance of independent MPs was centred around Gaza. It hasn't been confirmed that this would be but it's not a massive leap. |
Palestine. |  |
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| Corbyn's new party launched on 14:34 - Jul 4 with 149 views | jayessess |
| Corbyn's new party launched on 14:10 - Jul 4 by positivity |
they're going to need someone new and charismatic if they want to challenge the greens, let alone labour.
jezza has too much baggage and not enough charm to provide that |
Don't know about that. He's certainly very unpopular nationally, but there's probably 20+ seats nationally where he'd be a big name and an asset. Name recognition is one of the biggest issues getting a new party off the ground and he has it.
For a parallel Nigel Farage has consistently been rated one of Britain's most unpopular politicians but UKIP/Reform are utterly dependent on him as the only recognisable politician they have. | |
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| Corbyn's new party launched on 14:46 - Jul 4 with 128 views | positivity |
| Corbyn's new party launched on 14:34 - Jul 4 by jayessess |
Don't know about that. He's certainly very unpopular nationally, but there's probably 20+ seats nationally where he'd be a big name and an asset. Name recognition is one of the biggest issues getting a new party off the ground and he has it.
For a parallel Nigel Farage has consistently been rated one of Britain's most unpopular politicians but UKIP/Reform are utterly dependent on him as the only recognisable politician they have. |
that smacks of galloway though, that kind of effect doesn't last long.
the vast majority of people really dislike farrage, but the tiny minority who do, really love him, not sure jezza has that kind of cut-through | |
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| Corbyn's new party launched on 14:50 - Jul 4 with 120 views | Blueschev |
| Corbyn's new party launched on 14:34 - Jul 4 by jayessess |
Don't know about that. He's certainly very unpopular nationally, but there's probably 20+ seats nationally where he'd be a big name and an asset. Name recognition is one of the biggest issues getting a new party off the ground and he has it.
For a parallel Nigel Farage has consistently been rated one of Britain's most unpopular politicians but UKIP/Reform are utterly dependent on him as the only recognisable politician they have. |
The plus of having Corbyn on board is that he is a household name, and as much as some people loathe him, there are a sizable amount of people that love him. The hundreds of thousands of people who joined the Labour Party under his leadership haven't just disappeared. There would also be brand recognition as you would know what to expect from a party he has helped found.
He's a terrible party leader though, so I think if they were to make any medium term headway they would need to unearth a more ruthless, media savvy leader with Corbyn more in the background. |  | | |
| Corbyn's new party launched on 14:53 - Jul 4 with 114 views | baxterbasics |
Have they thought of a name yet?
I saw it suggested on X that they will be known as the National Anti-Zionist Independent party. There must be a snappy way to abbreviate that. | |
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| Corbyn's new party launched on 15:02 - Jul 4 with 92 views | Blueschev |
| Corbyn's new party launched on 14:46 - Jul 4 by positivity |
that smacks of galloway though, that kind of effect doesn't last long.
the vast majority of people really dislike farrage, but the tiny minority who do, really love him, not sure jezza has that kind of cut-through |
I think the key difference though is that Corbyn comes across as genuine, whereas Galloway is like the most eloquent second hand car salesman you would ever meet. | | | |
| Corbyn's new party launched on 15:05 - Jul 4 with 75 views | positivity |
| Corbyn's new party launched on 15:02 - Jul 4 by Blueschev |
I think the key difference though is that Corbyn comes across as genuine, whereas Galloway is like the most eloquent second hand car salesman you would ever meet. |
largely agree, but so does farrage and it works for him!
i wish corbyn had come across as more genuinely anti-brexit in 2016, we could have saved ourselves years of stagnation... [Post edited 4 Jul 15:06]
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| Corbyn's new party launched on 15:07 - Jul 4 with 61 views | giant_stow |
| Corbyn's new party launched on 14:53 - Jul 4 by baxterbasics |
Have they thought of a name yet?
I saw it suggested on X that they will be known as the National Anti-Zionist Independent party. There must be a snappy way to abbreviate that. |
I think I saw 'Collective' mentioned as a name last night, but I was pissed, so may be mistaken. |  |
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| Corbyn's new party launched on 15:10 - Jul 4 with 48 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Corbyn's new party launched on 15:05 - Jul 4 by positivity |
largely agree, but so does farrage and it works for him!
i wish corbyn had come across as more genuinely anti-brexit in 2016, we could have saved ourselves years of stagnation... [Post edited 4 Jul 15:06]
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That would have been nice, but I think he was always a Eurosceptic. Unfortunately it was bad timing to have him then leader of the Labour Party at that time. As yes, it’s been a dogs dinner and set us back generations. | |
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| Corbyn's new party launched on 15:22 - Jul 4 with 31 views | baxterbasics |
| Corbyn's new party launched on 15:05 - Jul 4 by positivity |
largely agree, but so does farrage and it works for him!
i wish corbyn had come across as more genuinely anti-brexit in 2016, we could have saved ourselves years of stagnation... [Post edited 4 Jul 15:06]
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But is it not the case that Corbs was always anti-EU?
Hard to come across as genuine about something when you don't really believe it. | |
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