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Ogbene attacking right back? 22:22 - Jul 5 with 2027 viewsNutkins_Return

If Hutch stays (and possibly even if he doesn't) I quite like the idea of Ogbene pace on the overlap. I think particularly at home in games we dominate this could be a proper weapon. Be interesting to see if we try it on friendlies.

Not quite sure who is our 'solid' option as Clarke and Johnson are also decent offensively. Do wonder of Johnson will be tested in CM as well. He's comfortable there but can be effective enough with the ball.

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Ogbene attacking right back? on 22:48 - Jul 5 with 1908 viewsBlue_Heath

Can he defend though? We need defenders to defend.
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Ogbene attacking right back? on 23:07 - Jul 5 with 1839 viewsStokieBlue

I don't think we can play a hugely attacking right back and left back and given Davis literally set records last time we were in this league I think it'll be attacking from that side.

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Ogbene attacking right back? on 23:10 - Jul 5 with 1825 viewsBlue_Heath

Ogbene attacking right back? on 23:07 - Jul 5 by StokieBlue

I don't think we can play a hugely attacking right back and left back and given Davis literally set records last time we were in this league I think it'll be attacking from that side.

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Agree, we need to be tighter defensively we have a surplus of wingers use them rather than leaving gaping holes.
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Ogbene attacking right back? on 23:14 - Jul 5 with 1806 viewsKentish_Tractor

Would be fine as a wingback in a back 5 with Leif the other side. Wes can do the same job. But no way as a fullback in a back 4 - that would be suicidal. We tried that with Clarke who supposedly IS an actual attacking fullback (rather than a makeshift one) in a back 4 and we all know how often he got found out...
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Ogbene attacking right back? on 23:30 - Jul 5 with 1749 viewstcblue

Why stop there? Walton is tall, he might be an aerial threat and solve our striker squad gap
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Ogbene attacking right back? on 23:52 - Jul 5 with 1651 viewsTrumptonBlue

Ogbene attacking right back? on 23:30 - Jul 5 by tcblue

Why stop there? Walton is tall, he might be an aerial threat and solve our striker squad gap


He did well when he joined the attack at Plymouth that time.
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Ogbene attacking right back? on 00:31 - Jul 6 with 1575 viewsbartyg

Could see it if we played five at the back and then Clarke/Omari left and right 10s

People forget we played Johnson in a similar role multiple games last season
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Ogbene attacking right back? on 01:10 - Jul 6 with 1519 viewsBLUEBEAT

Ogbene attacking right back? on 00:31 - Jul 6 by bartyg

Could see it if we played five at the back and then Clarke/Omari left and right 10s

People forget we played Johnson in a similar role multiple games last season


Am sure Johnson will make that position his own this season.

Regular first team games will show him to be the player West Ham offered a longterm contract to.

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Ogbene attacking right back? on 05:24 - Jul 6 with 1341 viewsfranz_tyson

Ogbene attacking right back? on 23:30 - Jul 5 by tcblue

Why stop there? Walton is tall, he might be an aerial threat and solve our striker squad gap


Haven't seen Woolfy proposed as a CM for a while. Like an advanced Beckenbauer. Worth a shot if OShea is keeping him out of the line up.
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Ogbene attacking right back? on 07:01 - Jul 6 with 1235 viewscressi

Maybe but wouldn't say much for Clarke or Johnson if it happened.
Man utd did the same with Valencia years ago.
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Ogbene attacking right back? on 08:45 - Jul 6 with 1026 viewsNthQldITFC

Ogbene attacking right back? on 23:14 - Jul 5 by Kentish_Tractor

Would be fine as a wingback in a back 5 with Leif the other side. Wes can do the same job. But no way as a fullback in a back 4 - that would be suicidal. We tried that with Clarke who supposedly IS an actual attacking fullback (rather than a makeshift one) in a back 4 and we all know how often he got found out...
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I'd like us to experiment a little this season if things are going really well for us, and a back 3/5 with two attacking wing backs plus incorporating Woolfy as a playmaker, stepping forward with O'Shea and Greaves as more conventional centre halves, makes for a really dynamic base which could really rip Championship sides out of shape and could also be a potential solid option as a 5 at the back base if we get back up.

It easily moves from 5-2-2-1, to 3-2-4-1 with both wing backs pushing right up, to 2-3-4-1 with a lot of overloading in the middle if Woolfy carries it forward. Or the nominal right wing back stays forward and we play the lopsided 4-2-3-1 of the last three years.

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Ogbene attacking right back? on 09:17 - Jul 6 with 951 viewsNutkins_Return

Ogbene attacking right back? on 23:30 - Jul 5 by tcblue

Why stop there? Walton is tall, he might be an aerial threat and solve our striker squad gap


Ogbene has played a lot of football at RWB. So don't write silly posts because you don't know our player well.
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Ogbene attacking right back? on 09:20 - Jul 6 with 938 viewsNutkins_Return

Ogbene attacking right back? on 07:01 - Jul 6 by cressi

Maybe but wouldn't say much for Clarke or Johnson if it happened.
Man utd did the same with Valencia years ago.


Yes worked really well. Very similar player. Ogbene is good defensively and seen him do really well. Given we sent Clarke out on loan it will be interesting to see how KM sees it next season with him. Capable in champ but so we want more?

As per original post it would be where be in games where we would be more dominant and needing to break teams down. No suggestion from me that it would be a standard RB role in tough games. Don't know why we had edge lords coming on writing silly comments.

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Ogbene attacking right back? on 10:05 - Jul 6 with 861 viewsPhilTWTD

Ogbene attacking right back? on 09:17 - Jul 6 by Nutkins_Return

Ogbene has played a lot of football at RWB. So don't write silly posts because you don't know our player well.
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Indeed, played there a lot for Luton and Rotherham, and for Ireland as well, I think. Not sure Kieran would use him in that role as I doubt we'll play with wing-backs and with Leif so advanced on the other side if we're in a four.
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Ogbene attacking right back? on 10:20 - Jul 6 with 782 viewsRalphinho

Ogbene attacking right back? on 23:30 - Jul 5 by tcblue

Why stop there? Walton is tall, he might be an aerial threat and solve our striker squad gap


I'd argue Muric has the better record of ensuring the ball finds the back of the net...
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Ogbene attacking right back? on 10:47 - Jul 6 with 683 viewsNutkins_Return

Ogbene attacking right back? on 10:05 - Jul 6 by PhilTWTD

Indeed, played there a lot for Luton and Rotherham, and for Ireland as well, I think. Not sure Kieran would use him in that role as I doubt we'll play with wing-backs and with Leif so advanced on the other side if we're in a four.


Most probably not but I like a bit of flex and we might see a bit more of Townsend over a longer season (off bench or where quick game turnarounds) and gives you an attacking option other side. Don't think we will play 2 wing backs.

Most likely won't happen. Just interested to see if we experiment a bit pre-season. Looking forward to seeing Ogbene pace.

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Ogbene attacking right back? on 11:25 - Jul 6 with 598 viewsStokieBlue

Ogbene attacking right back? on 10:47 - Jul 6 by Nutkins_Return

Most probably not but I like a bit of flex and we might see a bit more of Townsend over a longer season (off bench or where quick game turnarounds) and gives you an attacking option other side. Don't think we will play 2 wing backs.

Most likely won't happen. Just interested to see if we experiment a bit pre-season. Looking forward to seeing Ogbene pace.


I don't think we will see more of Townsend.

Leif managed the matches fine last time, I think if he's fit then he's one of the first names on McKenna's team sheet.

I might be wrong, we will see!

SB
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Ogbene attacking right back? on 11:35 - Jul 6 with 549 viewsnorfsufblue

Ogbene attacking right back? on 05:24 - Jul 6 by franz_tyson

Haven't seen Woolfy proposed as a CM for a while. Like an advanced Beckenbauer. Worth a shot if OShea is keeping him out of the line up.


Have been suggesting this for years... almost forgot i had to be honest.... think Woolfie could easily be a Claus Thomsen type CM
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Ogbene attacking right back? on 12:20 - Jul 6 with 474 viewsPhilTWTD

Ogbene attacking right back? on 10:47 - Jul 6 by Nutkins_Return

Most probably not but I like a bit of flex and we might see a bit more of Townsend over a longer season (off bench or where quick game turnarounds) and gives you an attacking option other side. Don't think we will play 2 wing backs.

Most likely won't happen. Just interested to see if we experiment a bit pre-season. Looking forward to seeing Ogbene pace.


I think the situation will be similar if Leif stays but can see Townsend being promoted if he moves on and the system tweaked.
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Ogbene attacking right back? on 19:23 - Jul 6 with 96 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Ogbene attacking right back? on 23:07 - Jul 5 by StokieBlue

I don't think we can play a hugely attacking right back and left back and given Davis literally set records last time we were in this league I think it'll be attacking from that side.

SB


I think our lack of variety made us too predictable in the Premier League. Developing more unpredictability in which side we attack down (or through the middle) and with the pace of attack (sometimes being a bit more direct) would be good. Yes, play to your strengths but don't be too predictable about it.

That said, we cannot afford to be gung-ho across the pitch. There must be sufficient organisation to it.

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