| Are we aiming too high? 08:45 - Jul 9 with 6506 views | bluesbrothers |
Obviously I love the ambition, but I'm very nervous we're aiming to recruit players that will ultimately move to the PL this window and we'll be left floundering. I think Joe referred to the situation as a high-wire act, and it's starting to look that way |  | | |  |
| Are we aiming too high? on 10:27 - Jul 9 with 1590 views | itfcjoe |
Still at the stage of market where we can aim high whilst keeping the other lesser targets on a string; knowing we need to act on them if a deal for Plan B or C to anywhere else gets close.
When we get to that stage we then have to make that call with primary targets at that point to stick or twist - but we'll be stringing everyone else along whilst hoping to land the likes of Hackney. |  |
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| Are we aiming too high? on 10:32 - Jul 9 with 1526 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Are we aiming too high? on 09:55 - Jul 9 by baxterbasics |
Highlights the current problem with the gap between PL and Champs. It's one thing being able to build a Championship winning squad, but one that can compete the following season is almost impossible now. KM, MA and the team are stuck between a rock and a hard place. |
PSR is basically working exactly how the cartel want it to work. |  |
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| Are we aiming too high? on 10:41 - Jul 9 with 1473 views | MattinLondon |
| Are we aiming too high? on 10:32 - Jul 9 by Marshalls_Mullet |
PSR is basically working exactly how the cartel want it to work. |
Financial fair play (or whatever it’s called) was only brought in to stop other clubs from becoming another Man City. They don’t want added competition - it has nothing to do with wanting clubs to becoming more sustainable.
Off topic but that’s why I wanted the European SuperLeague to actually happen - get the big clubs (and Spurs) out of the domestic leagues and realign the English league system within a reorganised UEFA. But the PL and government played to their tune and now we have a SuperLeague of sorts with English clubs also creaming off Skys riches. |  | | |
| Are we aiming too high? on 10:42 - Jul 9 with 1472 views | ArnieM |
I think those on here who favour a Downes return can finally put that idea to bed....
Southampton insist one club return won't happen all season https://share.google/keepfZLOkGnpKU77q |  |
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| Are we aiming too high? on 10:42 - Jul 9 with 1461 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Are we aiming too high? on 10:27 - Jul 9 by itfcjoe |
Still at the stage of market where we can aim high whilst keeping the other lesser targets on a string; knowing we need to act on them if a deal for Plan B or C to anywhere else gets close.
When we get to that stage we then have to make that call with primary targets at that point to stick or twist - but we'll be stringing everyone else along whilst hoping to land the likes of Hackney. |
You csn only string along secondary targets for so long, before others move in and sign them.
There has been comment about selling the dream. I wonder what changes have been made to our approach to encourage potential signings to believe when we are promoted we will do better than last time.
Guess we will have some idea on tactical changes to our style of play once we have a few pre-season friendlies behind us. |  |
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| Are we aiming too high? on 10:46 - Jul 9 with 1422 views | itfcjoe |
| Are we aiming too high? on 10:42 - Jul 9 by ArnieM |
I think those on here who favour a Downes return can finally put that idea to bed....
Southampton insist one club return won't happen all season https://share.google/keepfZLOkGnpKU77q |
Because of a dodgy AI article with loads of errors in it? | |
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| Are we aiming too high? on 10:48 - Jul 9 with 1404 views | itfcjoe |
| Are we aiming too high? on 10:42 - Jul 9 by Pinewoodblue |
You csn only string along secondary targets for so long, before others move in and sign them.
There has been comment about selling the dream. I wonder what changes have been made to our approach to encourage potential signings to believe when we are promoted we will do better than last time.
Guess we will have some idea on tactical changes to our style of play once we have a few pre-season friendlies behind us. |
And at that stage you then have to either stick or twist with your A target or pull trigger on your B | |
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| Are we aiming too high? on 10:51 - Jul 9 with 1369 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Are we aiming too high? on 10:41 - Jul 9 by MattinLondon |
Financial fair play (or whatever it’s called) was only brought in to stop other clubs from becoming another Man City. They don’t want added competition - it has nothing to do with wanting clubs to becoming more sustainable.
Off topic but that’s why I wanted the European SuperLeague to actually happen - get the big clubs (and Spurs) out of the domestic leagues and realign the English league system within a reorganised UEFA. But the PL and government played to their tune and now we have a SuperLeague of sorts with English clubs also creaming off Skys riches. |
My point exactly.
And I agree re the Super League. | |
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| Are we aiming too high? on 10:56 - Jul 9 with 1326 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Are we aiming too high? on 10:42 - Jul 9 by ArnieM |
I think those on here who favour a Downes return can finally put that idea to bed....
Southampton insist one club return won't happen all season https://share.google/keepfZLOkGnpKU77q |
Another reason to avoid speculation.
Horrific AI written articles make it even more of a jungle out there.
That 'article' should win some kind of award for how bad it is. | |
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| Are we aiming too high? on 10:57 - Jul 9 with 1324 views | The_Realist_09 |
| Are we aiming too high? on 10:48 - Jul 9 by itfcjoe |
And at that stage you then have to either stick or twist with your A target or pull trigger on your B |
This has clearly served us well, but is also so so difficult in English markets where there is so much information readily available. Almost impossible to get a deal done without a bigger club sniffing around the same player.
Slightly frustrating when you see other clubs at the same level tapping into various worldwide markets e.g. Japan, South America, Belgium etc. | | | |
| Are we aiming too high? on 10:59 - Jul 9 with 1311 views | ArnieM |
| Are we aiming too high? on 10:56 - Jul 9 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Another reason to avoid speculation.
Horrific AI written articles make it even more of a jungle out there.
That 'article' should win some kind of award for how bad it is. |
....I get where you're coming from, and there may be some truth in what you say, but equally it's not beyond the relms possibility that Saints wouldn't sell to a strong promotion rival. | |
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| Are we aiming too high? on 11:00 - Jul 9 with 1299 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Are we aiming too high? on 10:59 - Jul 9 by ArnieM |
....I get where you're coming from, and there may be some truth in what you say, but equally it's not beyond the relms possibility that Saints wouldn't sell to a strong promotion rival. |
None of it matters, best to ignore the speculation and wait for club announcements.
I promise, it will be good for your mental health. | |
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| Are we aiming too high? on 11:07 - Jul 9 with 1246 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Are we aiming too high? on 09:06 - Jul 9 by Marshalls_Mullet |
It's just unfounded rumours and speculation at this stage.
Just ignore it.
I don't understand why some people get caught up in all this.
Much easier to wait for announcements of new signings. |
Isn’t speculating on such things part of the fun of supporting a football team? |  | | |
| Are we aiming too high? on 11:17 - Jul 9 with 1192 views | Vic |
I think there is an arguement to be made that for a few summer windows we've aimed just a bit too high, especially in the forward line. On more than one occasion we've ultimately fallen short - hence relying on thecwinter window. |  |
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| Are we aiming too high? on 11:21 - Jul 9 with 1173 views | ReusersTown |
| Are we aiming too high? on 08:55 - Jul 9 by Guthrum |
I think that's a key area we'll be shopping in. Young Prem loans with maybe an option to buy. Looking for another Hutchinson. |
Exactly who exactly had heard of Omari properly until he'd signed. Were now in a position to make many more of those signings and possibly on perms in the first place. | | | |
| Are we aiming too high? on 12:03 - Jul 9 with 1014 views | Smoresy |
| Are we aiming too high? on 11:07 - Jul 9 by _clive_baker_ |
Isn’t speculating on such things part of the fun of supporting a football team? |
For loads of people yes Clive. Personally I find trying to police the speculation / rumours a bit odd, especially during the summer months. Most forums will probably have a dedicated transfer thread that is tens or hundreds of pages long by now, and without this stuff I'm not sure what there is to log in to talk about lol. | | | |
| Are we aiming too high? on 12:09 - Jul 9 with 979 views | WD19 |
| Are we aiming too high? on 09:02 - Jul 9 by StokieBlue |
Not concerned at all.
I imagine the club have a list of very ambitious signings, if they don't come off I assume they have a list that they know they can get.
Far too much analysis on too little data.
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Absolutely this. It would be far too easy to ‘go ugly early’ and regret it. We will have the resources and the ability to get in back up plans/loan cover if we need it. Hopefully we won’t. |  | | |
| Are we aiming too high? on 12:20 - Jul 9 with 916 views | HighgateBlue |
| Are we aiming too high? on 08:53 - Jul 9 by PrideOfTheEast |
We've been here before too - it concerns me but presumably the club is well aware of what it's doing.
It is clearly much more difficult to sign PL players as a Championship club versus signing Championship players in L1. Surely, anybody we're after the bottom half of the PL will be looking at too. |
Indeed, but that emphasises the importance of recruiting globally. The way that some smaller/middle-sized premier league teams have competed, and traded up, is by recruiting relative unknowns with genuinely big upsides.
Meanwhile we have recruited premium price players with potential who are known about by everyone. If some of them come good, fine, but (a) there's a lot of money spent on those who don't, and (b) if the ones that do come good have a relegation release clause that allows much of our potential profit to be eaten, then our strategy clearly isn't that sound.
Ashton recognises that mistakes have been made, and of course we need to get behind the team in the present and trust the club management to be laying foundations for a more comprehensive scouting network for the future. |  | | |
| Are we aiming too high? on 13:31 - Jul 9 with 774 views | BlueBlood90 |
| Are we aiming too high? on 10:48 - Jul 9 by itfcjoe |
And at that stage you then have to either stick or twist with your A target or pull trigger on your B |
Who would you categorise as being in the B bracket Joe? i.e. who we may fall back on if we don't get the likes of Hackney/Cajuste. |  |
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| Are we aiming too high? on 13:55 - Jul 9 with 716 views | Vaughan8 |
I do think we're in a strange position where we want to try and recruit players who can step up to the premier league, but don't have interest/bids from the PL.
Hopefully we can gauge sooner rather than later who is likely to be a target. | | | |
| Are we aiming too high? on 14:04 - Jul 9 with 666 views | Metal_Hacker |
| Are we aiming too high? on 11:07 - Jul 9 by _clive_baker_ |
Isn’t speculating on such things part of the fun of supporting a football team? |
Imagine being a football supporter at this time of year without speculation …….. [Post edited 9 Jul 14:09]
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| Are we aiming too high? on 17:49 - Jul 9 with 434 views | LeoMuff |
| Are we aiming too high? on 13:31 - Jul 9 by BlueBlood90 |
Who would you categorise as being in the B bracket Joe? i.e. who we may fall back on if we don't get the likes of Hackney/Cajuste. |
Sounds like the Cardiff lad Robertson, wasn’t Burger at stoke linked, previously tried to sign Sheaf could be the B options
Feels like Hackney, Downes, Cajuste are plan A [Post edited 9 Jul 17:49]
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