| Can ajax retract their acceptance of our offer? (n/t) 16:05 - Aug 5 with 2195 views | FrimleyBlue |
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| Can ajax retract their acceptance of our offer? (n/t) on 16:09 - Aug 5 with 2134 views | MattinLondon |
Probably yes - in the sane way a player can change their minds about moving. |  | | |
| Can ajax retract their acceptance of our offer? (n/t) on 16:11 - Aug 5 with 2045 views | Bellevue_Blue |
Absolutely but as with all these moves nowadays, the player has all the power to choose between teams.
Seems pretty clear that he wants us and they will honour the previous deal. |  | | |
| Can ajax retract their acceptance of our offer? (n/t) on 16:13 - Aug 5 with 1957 views | Metal_Hacker |
I'd assume nothing is signed at that stage Frimmers so .......
Nothing legally binding so basically a gentleman's agreement |  |
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| Yep, and if it's true.... on 16:28 - Aug 5 with 1666 views | Bloots |
....that Birmingham have offered a "buy now" deal compared to our "buy if" deal then they'd be mad to sanction a move to us.
If the Birmingham story is real then I expect the ball is firmly back in our court to match it. |  |
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| Yep, and if it's true.... on 16:31 - Aug 5 with 1608 views | Ryorry |
| Yep, and if it's true.... on 16:28 - Aug 5 by Bloots |
....that Birmingham have offered a "buy now" deal compared to our "buy if" deal then they'd be mad to sanction a move to us.
If the Birmingham story is real then I expect the ball is firmly back in our court to match it. |
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| Yep, and if it's true.... on 16:35 - Aug 5 with 1487 views | Bellevue_Blue |
| Yep, and if it's true.... on 16:28 - Aug 5 by Bloots |
....that Birmingham have offered a "buy now" deal compared to our "buy if" deal then they'd be mad to sanction a move to us.
If the Birmingham story is real then I expect the ball is firmly back in our court to match it. |
I don't think that really matters, they will honour the previous deal they agreed I'm sure. It's no different to United offering less for Sesko than Newcastle because United believe he only wants to go to them.
Unless the player wants a permanent move now and is happy to go to either club, Ajax can't really force us to match anything. However reporting suggests he only wants to come here. | | | |
| Yep, and if it's true.... on 16:36 - Aug 5 with 1427 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Yep, and if it's true.... on 16:28 - Aug 5 by Bloots |
....that Birmingham have offered a "buy now" deal compared to our "buy if" deal then they'd be mad to sanction a move to us.
If the Birmingham story is real then I expect the ball is firmly back in our court to match it. |
If Akpom refuses to move there though then Ajax have to take the best deal they can get from us. A mate of mine is an Ajax fan and reckons he's on big money there. The sort of money you struggle to see Birmingham matching as a Championship club. Or maybe their owners are mad enough to do it I suppose. [Post edited 5 Aug 16:41]
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| Can ajax retract their acceptance of our offer? (n/t) on 16:38 - Aug 5 with 1372 views | Horsham |
Say Ajax do that. Akpom then says no to Birmingham because he wants Ipswich then Ajax pretty much have to come back to the original deal anyway. Seem likelier we just sign him on the terms we’ve agreed. |  | | |
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| Yep, and if it's true.... on 16:40 - Aug 5 with 1307 views | burnbudgiesburn |
| Yep, and if it's true.... on 16:35 - Aug 5 by Bellevue_Blue |
I don't think that really matters, they will honour the previous deal they agreed I'm sure. It's no different to United offering less for Sesko than Newcastle because United believe he only wants to go to them.
Unless the player wants a permanent move now and is happy to go to either club, Ajax can't really force us to match anything. However reporting suggests he only wants to come here. |
It makes sense for the player to see where his next club are next season as well, players don't want to be stuck on long contracts in the Championship if they believe in themselves.
I think the only situation it makes sense for us to match Brums upfront offer is if the player indicated they were open to an instant permanent move.
I guess it's still open to some Ajax shenanigans, e.g saying they are calling off all loan moves and will keep the player unless permanently sold. | | | |
| Can ajax retract their acceptance of our offer? (n/t) on 16:41 - Aug 5 with 1287 views | homer_123 |
| Can ajax retract their acceptance of our offer? (n/t) on 16:38 - Aug 5 by Horsham |
Say Ajax do that. Akpom then says no to Birmingham because he wants Ipswich then Ajax pretty much have to come back to the original deal anyway. Seem likelier we just sign him on the terms we’ve agreed. |
Without wanting to be a sourpuss. Brum might also offer better terms for him as well. |  |
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| Can ajax retract their acceptance of our offer? (n/t) on 16:46 - Aug 5 with 1177 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Can ajax retract their acceptance of our offer? (n/t) on 16:41 - Aug 5 by homer_123 |
Without wanting to be a sourpuss. Brum might also offer better terms for him as well. |
Seems unlikely to me they can offer a permanent move for Akpom this summer that is more appealing to him personally. He can go on loan with his Ajax wage secured for 12 months and no commitment to be in the Championship beyond this season if he does well. [Post edited 5 Aug 16:46]
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| Yep, and if it's true.... on 16:47 - Aug 5 with 1140 views | WD19 |
| Yep, and if it's true.... on 16:36 - Aug 5 by tractorboy1978 |
If Akpom refuses to move there though then Ajax have to take the best deal they can get from us. A mate of mine is an Ajax fan and reckons he's on big money there. The sort of money you struggle to see Birmingham matching as a Championship club. Or maybe their owners are mad enough to do it I suppose. [Post edited 5 Aug 16:41]
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The internet reckons he is on the fat end of €100k a week as a consequence of Ajax qualifying for the Champions League. To ‘buy now’ presumably Brum would have had to offer similar and/or wrap it up in a signing on fee. |  | | |
| Yep, and if it's true.... on 16:51 - Aug 5 with 1049 views | Tampa_Florida_Blue |
| Yep, and if it's true.... on 16:40 - Aug 5 by burnbudgiesburn |
It makes sense for the player to see where his next club are next season as well, players don't want to be stuck on long contracts in the Championship if they believe in themselves.
I think the only situation it makes sense for us to match Brums upfront offer is if the player indicated they were open to an instant permanent move.
I guess it's still open to some Ajax shenanigans, e.g saying they are calling off all loan moves and will keep the player unless permanently sold. |
I read a thread on here last night saying the same thing about Jens, he wanted a permeant move not a long move, and that what we have agreed to. The thread came from Italian press/journalist.
I just looked through the threads and it seems to been removed. It was around 3am uk time (10pm my time) when I was reading this, phil may have removed it for being untrue [Post edited 5 Aug 17:02]
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| Can ajax retract their acceptance of our offer? (n/t) on 16:53 - Aug 5 with 991 views | Ryorry |
| Can ajax retract their acceptance of our offer? (n/t) on 16:46 - Aug 5 by tractorboy1978 |
Seems unlikely to me they can offer a permanent move for Akpom this summer that is more appealing to him personally. He can go on loan with his Ajax wage secured for 12 months and no commitment to be in the Championship beyond this season if he does well. [Post edited 5 Aug 16:46]
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Can see that - it'd make sense for him to keep his options open whilst playing with us in the Champ under a manager he trusts to improve him. He might then go up with us, or if we don't, he'd have had a chance to impress a Prem side sufficiently for them to make an offer for him. | |
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| Can ajax retract their acceptance of our offer? (n/t) on 16:55 - Aug 5 with 931 views | vilanovablue |
The fact that Brum have gone for another striker makes me less concerned. |  | | |
| Can ajax retract their acceptance of our offer? (n/t) on 17:03 - Aug 5 with 791 views | Horsham |
| Can ajax retract their acceptance of our offer? (n/t) on 16:41 - Aug 5 by homer_123 |
Without wanting to be a sourpuss. Brum might also offer better terms for him as well. |
Yep that could potentially happen I guess.
They do seem quite determined to make some sort of statement by beating us to this signing. | | | |
| Yep, and if it's true.... on 17:08 - Aug 5 with 729 views | Wickets |
| Yep, and if it's true.... on 16:28 - Aug 5 by Bloots |
....that Birmingham have offered a "buy now" deal compared to our "buy if" deal then they'd be mad to sanction a move to us.
If the Birmingham story is real then I expect the ball is firmly back in our court to match it. |
Terms are unknown , we might have offered the loan fee up front and Birmingham might have offered less up front even on their buy deal ? |  | | |
| Can ajax retract their acceptance of our offer? (n/t) on 17:11 - Aug 5 with 692 views | Smoresy |
Interesting reporting on SSN just now.
Local Ajax journalist commenting that Ajax would have liked Akpom to stay in other circumstances, one of the few attacking players to have been quite impressive during his time there, but misspending and financial downturn make his departure necessary or at least the right decision.
Akpom at Ipswich still but Birmingham's £6m offer is on the table and under consideration, with the Weirder Bremen striker transfer not being framed as an either / or situation - speaks to Akpom's versatility across the forward line. | | | |
| Can ajax retract their acceptance of our offer? (n/t) on 17:37 - Aug 5 with 435 views | southnorfolkblue |
Yes if no contract has been signed | |
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| They don't have to "honour" anything.... on 17:46 - Aug 5 with 362 views | Bloots |
| Yep, and if it's true.... on 16:35 - Aug 5 by Bellevue_Blue |
I don't think that really matters, they will honour the previous deal they agreed I'm sure. It's no different to United offering less for Sesko than Newcastle because United believe he only wants to go to them.
Unless the player wants a permanent move now and is happy to go to either club, Ajax can't really force us to match anything. However reporting suggests he only wants to come here. |
....other than a contract.
Which I doubt exists. | |
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