| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before 08:45 - Aug 13 with 7399 views | Ryorry |
Omari, uh oh, Omari oh no  |  |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 15:29 - Aug 13 with 811 views | ernie |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 12:51 - Aug 13 by noggin |
Nobody knows, that’s the point. |
That’s clearly not true is it. You and the rest of the left wing wet wipe mental health brigade have decided that Hutchinson not being able to play is down to his poor ‘mental health’ and the trauma he must have endured of not being able to immediately get what he wants in life. |  | | |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 15:44 - Aug 13 with 777 views | Hugoagogo_Reborn |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 15:29 - Aug 13 by ernie |
That’s clearly not true is it. You and the rest of the left wing wet wipe mental health brigade have decided that Hutchinson not being able to play is down to his poor ‘mental health’ and the trauma he must have endured of not being able to immediately get what he wants in life. |
You ok, Hun? ❤️ |  | | |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 15:50 - Aug 13 with 744 views | Sarge |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 10:14 - Aug 13 by positivity |
were you pleased with his performance yesterday? |
I don’t understand this equivalence. Broadhead wants to leave because he’s not going to get game time. We, for some reason lost on us all, prefer an ineffective and overly expensive replacement instead. He also has formal interest in him. He still participated in pre season and played on Friday despite knowing the coach doesn’t rate him anymore and he’s only there because of injuries.
Hutchinson is first choice, will have as many minutes as he wants but wants to leave regardless even though there are currently no clubs in for him and is refusing to play either in games that matter or games that don’t. | | | |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 15:52 - Aug 13 with 733 views | Hugoagogo_Reborn |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 15:50 - Aug 13 by Sarge |
I don’t understand this equivalence. Broadhead wants to leave because he’s not going to get game time. We, for some reason lost on us all, prefer an ineffective and overly expensive replacement instead. He also has formal interest in him. He still participated in pre season and played on Friday despite knowing the coach doesn’t rate him anymore and he’s only there because of injuries.
Hutchinson is first choice, will have as many minutes as he wants but wants to leave regardless even though there are currently no clubs in for him and is refusing to play either in games that matter or games that don’t. |
I am beginning to wonder if the poster you are replying to is trying to imply that the OP has underhand motives. Which I don't for one second believe she has. | | | |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 16:10 - Aug 13 with 688 views | positivity |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 15:52 - Aug 13 by Hugoagogo_Reborn |
I am beginning to wonder if the poster you are replying to is trying to imply that the OP has underhand motives. Which I don't for one second believe she has. |
no, i'm not implying anything about ryorry, they are an excellent poster who makes lots of valid points.
i'm just confused as to why broady gets a free pass whilst omari gets abuse from a lot of posters for doing very similar things.
when omari says his head's not right, he's "downed tools", but the same doesn't apply when broady "rings in sick" (notice the difference in kmc's reporting of the 2 illnesses, inclined to trust him over fan's hearsay) | |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 16:19 - Aug 13 with 637 views | noggin |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 15:29 - Aug 13 by ernie |
That’s clearly not true is it. You and the rest of the left wing wet wipe mental health brigade have decided that Hutchinson not being able to play is down to his poor ‘mental health’ and the trauma he must have endured of not being able to immediately get what he wants in life. |
So you’re saying he should grow a pair? |  |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 16:34 - Aug 13 with 587 views | blueasfook |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 15:29 - Aug 13 by ernie |
That’s clearly not true is it. You and the rest of the left wing wet wipe mental health brigade have decided that Hutchinson not being able to play is down to his poor ‘mental health’ and the trauma he must have endured of not being able to immediately get what he wants in life. |
Go Ernie! It's an uppie from me bud.
Post more. |  |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 16:37 - Aug 13 with 581 views | MaySixth |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 08:51 - Aug 13 by Guthrum |
I'm reserving anything as strong as anger until (if) we find out what's actually going on. But I am disappointed at how the situation is progressing.
He won't be remembered as fondly as Delap after this, despite an arguably greater contribution. |
It's obvious what is going on.
He doesn't want to scupper a move that will further his career. |  |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 16:40 - Aug 13 with 542 views | Hugoagogo_Reborn |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 16:10 - Aug 13 by positivity |
no, i'm not implying anything about ryorry, they are an excellent poster who makes lots of valid points.
i'm just confused as to why broady gets a free pass whilst omari gets abuse from a lot of posters for doing very similar things.
when omari says his head's not right, he's "downed tools", but the same doesn't apply when broady "rings in sick" (notice the difference in kmc's reporting of the 2 illnesses, inclined to trust him over fan's hearsay) |
Fair enough. Thanks for clarifying. There are so many baiters and trolls on here these days, it's hard to take simple posts at face value!
Apologies for any unfair insinuation on .my part. | | | |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 16:41 - Aug 13 with 536 views | pointofblue |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 16:10 - Aug 13 by positivity |
no, i'm not implying anything about ryorry, they are an excellent poster who makes lots of valid points.
i'm just confused as to why broady gets a free pass whilst omari gets abuse from a lot of posters for doing very similar things.
when omari says his head's not right, he's "downed tools", but the same doesn't apply when broady "rings in sick" (notice the difference in kmc's reporting of the 2 illnesses, inclined to trust him over fan's hearsay) |
Note what McKenns actually said. He spelled out that Hutchinson told him he didn't want to play. Broadhead said he was sick. If McKenna says Broadhead has downed tools too then we can respond accordingly. But he has not said that.
And Broadhead was available for Birmingham, came on, and made an impact. Which is more than can be said for Hutchinson.
At this stage you're taking what is actually being said about Hutchinson, and trying putting two and two together to say the same thing about Broadhead, even though the total may be five.
And, even if you're right, as outlined on the thread, Hutchinson and Broadhead:s circumstances are very different. It feels like the club have been trying to get rid of Broadhead since, at the very least, the turn of the year. | |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 16:42 - Aug 13 with 532 views | runaround |
What some people seem to be missing here is that the comments on why Omari didn’t play are coming from McKenna not rumours or here say.
McKenna is a clever man and a smart cookie so I cannot for one second imagine him saying what he said if there was any chance that the player was suffering mental illness. It would be so unlike him.
The words do point towards the player acting on “advice “ from others outside the club and that club has tried with the player to get him to act differently. All in all it’s now lead to one of our best players making himself unavailable which is doing no one any good but it’s hard to see him playing for the club again |  | | |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 16:47 - Aug 13 with 506 views | LuciBlue |
Let him buy out his contract, does he think he's worth £40M. |  |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 16:48 - Aug 13 with 502 views | positivity |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 16:41 - Aug 13 by pointofblue |
Note what McKenns actually said. He spelled out that Hutchinson told him he didn't want to play. Broadhead said he was sick. If McKenna says Broadhead has downed tools too then we can respond accordingly. But he has not said that.
And Broadhead was available for Birmingham, came on, and made an impact. Which is more than can be said for Hutchinson.
At this stage you're taking what is actually being said about Hutchinson, and trying putting two and two together to say the same thing about Broadhead, even though the total may be five.
And, even if you're right, as outlined on the thread, Hutchinson and Broadhead:s circumstances are very different. It feels like the club have been trying to get rid of Broadhead since, at the very least, the turn of the year. |
the fact is that we don't know the facts, until then the most reliable witness is kmc.
he said omari wasn't fit for friday, and said that broady "reported in sick" for tuesday, unless someone comes out with a definitive rebuttal to that, that's what we have to work on.
i'd be surprised if either of them play a game for us after august 31st (i'd love to be wrong on this!), neither has been as professional as we'd have liked, but it's possible to understand the motives of both | |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 17:05 - Aug 13 with 460 views | pointofblue |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 16:48 - Aug 13 by positivity |
the fact is that we don't know the facts, until then the most reliable witness is kmc.
he said omari wasn't fit for friday, and said that broady "reported in sick" for tuesday, unless someone comes out with a definitive rebuttal to that, that's what we have to work on.
i'd be surprised if either of them play a game for us after august 31st (i'd love to be wrong on this!), neither has been as professional as we'd have liked, but it's possible to understand the motives of both |
But yesterday McKenna made it clear it was Hutchinson's choice not to play, whilst stating Broadhead called in sick. It's two different circumstances. You're adding something which McKenna has not said to...I don't know... defend Hutchinson, slander Broadhead, whatever. There is nothing, at the moment, to say Broadhead is being unprofessional. There is plenty of evidence from McKenna himself to say that about Hutchinson.
If McKenna says Broadhead is refusing to play, then you have a point. And you may say people were calling out Hutchinson for missing Birmingham with a sore throat, but that's because McKenna had previously told us he was refusing to travel and play against Auxerre. There was evidence of downing tools. Again, no such case for Broadhead so far. | |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 17:12 - Aug 13 with 433 views | positivity |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 17:05 - Aug 13 by pointofblue |
But yesterday McKenna made it clear it was Hutchinson's choice not to play, whilst stating Broadhead called in sick. It's two different circumstances. You're adding something which McKenna has not said to...I don't know... defend Hutchinson, slander Broadhead, whatever. There is nothing, at the moment, to say Broadhead is being unprofessional. There is plenty of evidence from McKenna himself to say that about Hutchinson.
If McKenna says Broadhead is refusing to play, then you have a point. And you may say people were calling out Hutchinson for missing Birmingham with a sore throat, but that's because McKenna had previously told us he was refusing to travel and play against Auxerre. There was evidence of downing tools. Again, no such case for Broadhead so far. |
point me to the interview where mckenna has stated that omari "downed tools" for auxerre. not how i remember it
if mckenna thought broady was sick, i think he'd say broady was sick, not that he'd "reported sick".
basically, we're both reading things into mckenna's words, which is why i'm saying it's not as black and white as some posters want to make out. there are grey areas in both cases | |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 17:20 - Aug 13 with 403 views | pointofblue |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 17:12 - Aug 13 by positivity |
point me to the interview where mckenna has stated that omari "downed tools" for auxerre. not how i remember it
if mckenna thought broady was sick, i think he'd say broady was sick, not that he'd "reported sick".
basically, we're both reading things into mckenna's words, which is why i'm saying it's not as black and white as some posters want to make out. there are grey areas in both cases |
Presumably because Broadhead was taken ill overnight, if true, so didn't come into the training ground, so didn't see McKenna in person. So he reported sick. You're reaching at this stage to cast aspersions on Broadhead.
This is McKenna's interview pair Auxerre, making clear it was Omari's decision not come because he didn't feel in the right place mentally to do so. Downing tools may be the wrong phrase, admittedly.
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 17:20 - Aug 13 with 393 views | ArnieM |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 09:09 - Aug 13 by Cotty |
It's not as simple as that, if we think there's a chance he can be persuaded to stay (or that we do not think an offer which is suitable to the club is likely to be forthcoming). |
He doesn't want to stay and anyone who thinks different to that is in cloud cuckoo land. |  |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 17:42 - Aug 13 with 354 views | Meadowlark |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 09:56 - Aug 13 by Wright1 |
Given the poor treatment of Muric from a section of our fanbase, can Omari expect the same if he appears again or stays? If so, is it even possible for the club to keep him?
Of course he is a better player and made a big contribution to this club - but his "crimes" are far worse than a few rickets. |
"fanbase"
Noun. A modern word that has replaced "fans." |  | | |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 17:49 - Aug 13 with 326 views | Swailsey |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 15:29 - Aug 13 by ernie |
That’s clearly not true is it. You and the rest of the left wing wet wipe mental health brigade have decided that Hutchinson not being able to play is down to his poor ‘mental health’ and the trauma he must have endured of not being able to immediately get what he wants in life. |
Gosh you’re a bellend. |  |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 17:52 - Aug 13 with 302 views | positivity |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 17:20 - Aug 13 by pointofblue |
Presumably because Broadhead was taken ill overnight, if true, so didn't come into the training ground, so didn't see McKenna in person. So he reported sick. You're reaching at this stage to cast aspersions on Broadhead.
This is McKenna's interview pair Auxerre, making clear it was Omari's decision not come because he didn't feel in the right place mentally to do so. Downing tools may be the wrong phrase, admittedly.
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that's as reaching as my reading! grey areas, not black and white...
we may never know the full story, we can probably agree that both are being more professional than isak! | |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 17:55 - Aug 13 with 276 views | blueoutlook |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 16:19 - Aug 13 by noggin |
So you’re saying he should grow a pair? |
He definitely should ! I’ve already said that. |  | | |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 18:01 - Aug 13 with 249 views | MK1 |
Totally agree. Been going slightly longer and never seen alike. Let him go asap and play J. Clarke in his best position. Unacceptable behaviour from any player. Understand Wissa at Brentford is doing an Issac as well. I fear for the game. Glad I'm old and won't be around for when the players totally take over the game. |  |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 18:01 - Aug 13 with 249 views | pointofblue |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 17:52 - Aug 13 by positivity |
that's as reaching as my reading! grey areas, not black and white...
we may never know the full story, we can probably agree that both are being more professional than isak! |
Maybe. In bit cases it sounds like the players said they were not fit to play - the difference is Hutchinson's is mental and Broadhead is reportedly physical.
McKenna was far more forthright about Hutchinson than Broadhead. If it continues then maybe we'll get something similar about Broadhead. But at the moment it's coming across that Broadhead is can't play whilst Hutchinson is won't play. | |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 18:11 - Aug 13 with 226 views | Swansea_Blue |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 18:01 - Aug 13 by pointofblue |
Maybe. In bit cases it sounds like the players said they were not fit to play - the difference is Hutchinson's is mental and Broadhead is reportedly physical.
McKenna was far more forthright about Hutchinson than Broadhead. If it continues then maybe we'll get something similar about Broadhead. But at the moment it's coming across that Broadhead is can't play whilst Hutchinson is won't play. |
“But at the moment it's coming across that Broadhead is can't play whilst Hutchinson is won't play.”
That’s correct. Broady has been involved, OH not. OH is the only one KM has said won’t play. Anything else is guesswork and supposition.
I’ll be glad when the window shuts. If Hutch is still here (I very much suspect he won’t be), he’ll have some serious bridge building to do. |  |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 18:20 - Aug 13 with 191 views | Xatticus |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 09:22 - Aug 13 by Somersetractor |
It is crazy and I'm not saying wrong (because none of us actually know), that the majority general assumption is that Omari is being petulant and not that he may be suffering mentally with the pressures of what is going on around him. And no, being paid thousands of pounds a week is not a cure for mental health. |
What is he suffering from? Are you insinuating that it could potentially be due to something completely unrelated to the transfer situation? I think McKenna removed all doubt on this when he very politely said that Omari is being immature.
I have no sympathy for him. He was available with a release clause in place, but that clause was not activated because the potential suitors presumably did not deem him worthy of said fee. They waited for it to expire and then came in to unsettle him to force a move for a lesser fee. If either of the interested clubs met the release clause while it was active, then there is no story here at all.
Omari is essentially aiding them while under contract with us, so this is one where I'm digging in my heels. If this comes at Omari's expense, so be it, but I'm not going to reward other clubs for attempting to raid us with underhanded tactics. I'd like the situation resolved. It isn't good for us, but nothing is off the table. If we have to carry an unhappy player to the next window, so be it.
All of that said, I don't blame Omari for this. It does no good to attack the character of someone that doesn't behave in the manner you prefer. This is not unique. This is the present environment for yo-yo clubs and it is for our management to navigate while we continue to build. I expect we will have learned some lessons from this. In the future, perhaps release clauses won't expire, but rather the figure will increase if not activated by a certain date to disincentivize this tactic. | | | |
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