| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before 08:45 - Aug 13 with 4371 views | Ryorry |
Omari, uh oh, Omari oh no  |  |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 08:51 - Aug 13 with 2586 views | Guthrum |
I'm reserving anything as strong as anger until (if) we find out what's actually going on. But I am disappointed at how the situation is progressing.
He won't be remembered as fondly as Delap after this, despite an arguably greater contribution. |  |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 09:05 - Aug 13 with 2490 views | Ryorry |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 08:51 - Aug 13 by Guthrum |
I'm reserving anything as strong as anger until (if) we find out what's actually going on. But I am disappointed at how the situation is progressing.
He won't be remembered as fondly as Delap after this, despite an arguably greater contribution. |
Fair comment, but if he’s declined to do the job we’re paying him handsomely to do, then we should stop paying him for the duration of his refusal. [Post edited 13 Aug 9:07]
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 09:08 - Aug 13 with 2429 views | FrimleyBlue |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 08:51 - Aug 13 by Guthrum |
I'm reserving anything as strong as anger until (if) we find out what's actually going on. But I am disappointed at how the situation is progressing.
He won't be remembered as fondly as Delap after this, despite an arguably greater contribution. |
guthrum, what more evidence are you waiting for to know that he's refusing to play?
im just curious because it's clear as day now isn't it? |  |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 09:09 - Aug 13 with 2427 views | Cotty |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 09:05 - Aug 13 by Ryorry |
Fair comment, but if he’s declined to do the job we’re paying him handsomely to do, then we should stop paying him for the duration of his refusal. [Post edited 13 Aug 9:07]
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It's not as simple as that, if we think there's a chance he can be persuaded to stay (or that we do not think an offer which is suitable to the club is likely to be forthcoming). |  | | |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 09:11 - Aug 13 with 2410 views | FrimleyBlue |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 09:09 - Aug 13 by Cotty |
It's not as simple as that, if we think there's a chance he can be persuaded to stay (or that we do not think an offer which is suitable to the club is likely to be forthcoming). |
probably best he does go tbh isn't it
stay because no one meets the clubs terms, any poor performances are gonna be met with " he doesn't want to be here anyway etc "
he really should have just played football, | |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 09:11 - Aug 13 with 2410 views | BlueBadger |
Bloody hell Ryorrers, wait till you hear about Chopra, Bullsrd, Norwood...... |  |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 09:12 - Aug 13 with 2380 views | FrimleyBlue |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 09:11 - Aug 13 by BlueBadger |
Bloody hell Ryorrers, wait till you hear about Chopra, Bullsrd, Norwood...... |
all played for town when manager asked them too.... | |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 09:13 - Aug 13 with 2355 views | football |
And Broadhead who was probably not sick |  | | |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 09:15 - Aug 13 with 2349 views | Guthrum |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 09:05 - Aug 13 by Ryorry |
Fair comment, but if he’s declined to do the job we’re paying him handsomely to do, then we should stop paying him for the duration of his refusal. [Post edited 13 Aug 9:07]
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There's just a little voice at the back of my head wondering if Hutchinson is having some sort of a breakdown (or similar, caused by the stress), rather than just being wilfully obstructive. It's the way McKenna keeps using the word "care" in this context. He does come from a Youth coaching background, after all.
Remember Russell Osman talking about how, in his playing time, things like win bonuses and other such conditional sums made a significant impact upon a footballer's income above the basic pay. The difference between getting the car fixed and not. Hutchinson will be missing out on any of that, but these days it's such a drop in the ocean as not to be a real incentive. | |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 09:15 - Aug 13 with 2343 views | Pinewoodblue |
No anger with Omari, it is as it is, assuming he has downed tools.
Any anger is reserved for those responsible for team selection and tactics.
The lack of effort, concern shown last night is unacceptable. KMc give your head a wobble. |  |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 09:20 - Aug 13 with 2217 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
Yeah contrast that with Fernandes at Southampton who played and scored last night. He’s almost certainly off, yet still contributing.
Very disappointing, and hard to interpret McKenna’s comments as anything other than he’s refusing to play. I mean acting like Isak whilst contributing relatively modestly last season in terms of goals and assists is a bit strange. | | | |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 09:22 - Aug 13 with 2200 views | Somersetractor |
It is crazy and I'm not saying wrong (because none of us actually know), that the majority general assumption is that Omari is being petulant and not that he may be suffering mentally with the pressures of what is going on around him. And no, being paid thousands of pounds a week is not a cure for mental health. | | | |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 09:23 - Aug 13 with 2190 views | Ryorry |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 09:15 - Aug 13 by Guthrum |
There's just a little voice at the back of my head wondering if Hutchinson is having some sort of a breakdown (or similar, caused by the stress), rather than just being wilfully obstructive. It's the way McKenna keeps using the word "care" in this context. He does come from a Youth coaching background, after all.
Remember Russell Osman talking about how, in his playing time, things like win bonuses and other such conditional sums made a significant impact upon a footballer's income above the basic pay. The difference between getting the car fixed and not. Hutchinson will be missing out on any of that, but these days it's such a drop in the ocean as not to be a real incentive. |
Also a fair point, but in the context of ‘care’, I’m sure KM would have mentioned it if OH had some kind of mental health issue - we’re all aware (ok, most are) these days that mental health is as important as physical; and he could have made any reference to it suitably vague to cover confidentiality. | |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 09:23 - Aug 13 with 2186 views | Guthrum |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 09:08 - Aug 13 by FrimleyBlue |
guthrum, what more evidence are you waiting for to know that he's refusing to play?
im just curious because it's clear as day now isn't it? |
I'm thinking deeper than the mere refusal to play. Who or what is driving this? What is Hutchinson's actual mental state? Is he wibbling under pressure from all sides, or coldly and consciously being obstructive?
The answers to those questions - which we may never know - can shed quite different light on what is actually going on and the player's character. | |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 09:24 - Aug 13 with 2166 views | FrimleyBlue |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 09:15 - Aug 13 by Guthrum |
There's just a little voice at the back of my head wondering if Hutchinson is having some sort of a breakdown (or similar, caused by the stress), rather than just being wilfully obstructive. It's the way McKenna keeps using the word "care" in this context. He does come from a Youth coaching background, after all.
Remember Russell Osman talking about how, in his playing time, things like win bonuses and other such conditional sums made a significant impact upon a footballer's income above the basic pay. The difference between getting the car fixed and not. Hutchinson will be missing out on any of that, but these days it's such a drop in the ocean as not to be a real incentive. |
I would wonder similar if it wasn't for KM saying there are different ways to for players to handle this situation. He's pssed about it, it's clear as day, he's rightfully trying to show that as a manager and a club we are communicating with him about it, but let's not pretend it's anything other than omari refusing to play | |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 09:31 - Aug 13 with 2108 views | Guthrum |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 09:24 - Aug 13 by FrimleyBlue |
I would wonder similar if it wasn't for KM saying there are different ways to for players to handle this situation. He's pssed about it, it's clear as day, he's rightfully trying to show that as a manager and a club we are communicating with him about it, but let's not pretend it's anything other than omari refusing to play |
I'm sure McKenna is angry about it. Losing one of the squad's better players to a situation like this, plus having an annoying distraction at the start of a crucial season is bound to make him so.
However, the language he is using still seems to be shielding Hutchinson, emphasising his young age and the duty of care. I don't know he'd be so careful if it was simply the player being an @rse. | |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 09:44 - Aug 13 with 2021 views | CastroSito |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 09:15 - Aug 13 by Guthrum |
There's just a little voice at the back of my head wondering if Hutchinson is having some sort of a breakdown (or similar, caused by the stress), rather than just being wilfully obstructive. It's the way McKenna keeps using the word "care" in this context. He does come from a Youth coaching background, after all.
Remember Russell Osman talking about how, in his playing time, things like win bonuses and other such conditional sums made a significant impact upon a footballer's income above the basic pay. The difference between getting the car fixed and not. Hutchinson will be missing out on any of that, but these days it's such a drop in the ocean as not to be a real incentive. |
This seems like a huge stretch? KM uses the word 'care' because he's our player, a young player, and he has to be seen to be saying the right things.
Omari is just doing what players do in the modern game to get moves. It's nothing more than that. It's happens all the time. | | | |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 09:54 - Aug 13 with 1918 views | noggin |
Devil's advocate here. He's a young man, with a lot of pressure on him, coming from several directions. That pressure is likely to be affecting his mental health. If that is the case, then he might not feel able to do his job.
As someone who has struggled with mental health and had to have periods off work, I'm going to save judgment.
There are a lot of ruthless people in professional football and he might well be feeling overwhelmed. These young players are not prepared for so much pressure. |  |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 09:56 - Aug 13 with 1901 views | Wright1 |
Given the poor treatment of Muric from a section of our fanbase, can Omari expect the same if he appears again or stays? If so, is it even possible for the club to keep him?
Of course he is a better player and made a big contribution to this club - but his "crimes" are far worse than a few rickets. | | | |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 09:57 - Aug 13 with 1856 views | homer_123 |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 09:23 - Aug 13 by Guthrum |
I'm thinking deeper than the mere refusal to play. Who or what is driving this? What is Hutchinson's actual mental state? Is he wibbling under pressure from all sides, or coldly and consciously being obstructive?
The answers to those questions - which we may never know - can shed quite different light on what is actually going on and the player's character. |
Which is why I posted a response to Blueas down below.
He's a young lad and, according to some ITK on here, is being pressured by family members (allegedly) for a Prem move whilst wanting to stay at Town.
If there is an element of truth in this (I'm not asserting there is), you can see how this might be affecting Omari and he maybe struggling.
The reality is things are never quite as cut and dried as they might first appear.
Ultimately, I want to see the best for the Club but also the player - actually, it's one of the things that has seen the Club build bridges between the fans and the community - we generally seem to go about things in a much better way. So, if Omari needs support, then I hope we provide it - even if he does leave. |  |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 09:58 - Aug 13 with 1832 views | blueasfook |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 09:22 - Aug 13 by Somersetractor |
It is crazy and I'm not saying wrong (because none of us actually know), that the majority general assumption is that Omari is being petulant and not that he may be suffering mentally with the pressures of what is going on around him. And no, being paid thousands of pounds a week is not a cure for mental health. |
If that was the case, I think KM would have been a bit more protective of him rather than hanging him out to dry by informing the press he didn't want to play. |  |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 09:59 - Aug 13 with 1801 views | FrimleyBlue |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 09:54 - Aug 13 by noggin |
Devil's advocate here. He's a young man, with a lot of pressure on him, coming from several directions. That pressure is likely to be affecting his mental health. If that is the case, then he might not feel able to do his job.
As someone who has struggled with mental health and had to have periods off work, I'm going to save judgment.
There are a lot of ruthless people in professional football and he might well be feeling overwhelmed. These young players are not prepared for so much pressure. |
TBH, with KM being the person that he is, if he wanted to protect omari, then omari would have simply pulled hamstring or something in training and was looking at a few weeks out.
the fact he's made the point twice about omari advising he can't play imo says a lot | |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 10:04 - Aug 13 with 1732 views | noggin |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 09:59 - Aug 13 by FrimleyBlue |
TBH, with KM being the person that he is, if he wanted to protect omari, then omari would have simply pulled hamstring or something in training and was looking at a few weeks out.
the fact he's made the point twice about omari advising he can't play imo says a lot |
"the fact he's made the point twice about omari advising he can't play imo says a lot"
But that's you making assumptions. Mental health is an individual thing. If Omari feels he's not up to playing, then that's his judgment. KM might not be happy about it, but would we want OH playing while his head is in the wrong place? | |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 10:04 - Aug 13 with 1735 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
I was more angry at players who were drink driving or missing games with toothache and then drinking a bottle of coke on the train home.
Its a cr@p situation and Omari hasn't covered himself in glory at all. Part of me wants to show some level of sympathy to him as he is just a kid who is likely being poorly advised by the people around him. But equally he is the one who is handsomely paid and he is showing 0 respect to KM who deserves an awful lot of it.
He is a super footballer and is capable of being a prem player but flat out refusing to play will just never be something I can get my head around. |  |
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| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 10:06 - Aug 13 with 1698 views | noggin |
| In 50 years of supporting Town, I’ve never been so angry at a player before on 10:04 - Aug 13 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
I was more angry at players who were drink driving or missing games with toothache and then drinking a bottle of coke on the train home.
Its a cr@p situation and Omari hasn't covered himself in glory at all. Part of me wants to show some level of sympathy to him as he is just a kid who is likely being poorly advised by the people around him. But equally he is the one who is handsomely paid and he is showing 0 respect to KM who deserves an awful lot of it.
He is a super footballer and is capable of being a prem player but flat out refusing to play will just never be something I can get my head around. |
"But equally he is the one who is handsomely paid and he is showing 0 respect to KM who deserves an awful lot of it."
Salary is completely irrelevant, if mental health is the issue. | |
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