| £37.5m feels somewhat light 20:07 - Aug 14 with 4024 views | Zx1988 |
Especially with it most likely being paid in instalments, and subject to various clauses no doubt.
Doesn't necessarily feel like much of an upgrade on £35m up front, especially when it had been mentioned that Ashton was valuing him at £40m-£50m. |  |
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| £37.5m feels somewhat light on 22:15 - Aug 14 with 666 views | Swansea_Blue |
| £37.5m feels somewhat light on 21:18 - Aug 14 by Bellevue_Blue |
I think the whole reason any deal has been held up with Brentford or Forest was over not enough being paid upfront so I wouldn't worry about that. I presume the other hold up is us wanting to keep that 25% sell on fee of profit that we have to give to Chelsea.
The fact there has been a breakthrough for just 2.5M more suggests that Forest have very much come to the table when it comes to those two things.
I don't think 40/50 was ever realistic but i do think his play acting probably contributed to us lowering our demands somewhat. |
This is the first summer I can recall people talking lots about the structure of deals despite it always being a thing. It’s funny how trends permeate fan talk. The first time I was properly aware of it was that time about 10-15 years ago when you couldn’t read this place without someone talking about jockeying. You never hear it mentioned now. It’s a funny old game being a fan.
Not meant to be a dig in any way, just an observation and didn’t feel it warranted a thread. (You could well be right about the structure of the deal). |  |
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| £37.5m feels somewhat light on 22:15 - Aug 14 with 668 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| £37.5m feels somewhat light on 21:58 - Aug 14 by bsw72 |
I’d be very surprised if our controllership would allow 4.5m write off for a deal concluded hours before end of financial year. How Chelsea treat the transfer and how we treat it from an accounting standpoint will be very different.
Not saying they can’t but unlikely and we will only know once results are published. |
Just looked at the 23/24 accounts, and £26.3M appears under intangible assets (where transfer costs, agent fees, etc appear) which has to include Hutch. So definitely recognised in the 23/24 accounts, so presumably (and I’m not an accountant) the first 1/5th write down would also be in the same year? | | | |
| £37.5m feels somewhat light on 22:16 - Aug 14 with 665 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| £37.5m feels somewhat light on 22:09 - Aug 14 by itfcsuth |
Laughing all the way to the bank.
Looked a long way off PL football last season. |
That's enough TWTD for me today! |  |
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| £37.5m feels somewhat light on 22:16 - Aug 14 with 662 views | FrimleyBlue |
| £37.5m feels somewhat light on 21:58 - Aug 14 by bsw72 |
I’d be very surprised if our controllership would allow 4.5m write off for a deal concluded hours before end of financial year. How Chelsea treat the transfer and how we treat it from an accounting standpoint will be very different.
Not saying they can’t but unlikely and we will only know once results are published. |
What are matching rights if there's no buy back clause? |  |
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| £37.5m feels somewhat light on 22:18 - Aug 14 with 637 views | Herbivore |
| £37.5m feels somewhat light on 22:08 - Aug 14 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Spurs, Man U, Villa, Everton [Post edited 14 Aug 22:08]
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Chelsea at home he was excellent too. |  |
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| £37.5m feels somewhat light on 22:20 - Aug 14 with 613 views | Herbivore |
| £37.5m feels somewhat light on 22:15 - Aug 14 by Swansea_Blue |
This is the first summer I can recall people talking lots about the structure of deals despite it always being a thing. It’s funny how trends permeate fan talk. The first time I was properly aware of it was that time about 10-15 years ago when you couldn’t read this place without someone talking about jockeying. You never hear it mentioned now. It’s a funny old game being a fan.
Not meant to be a dig in any way, just an observation and didn’t feel it warranted a thread. (You could well be right about the structure of the deal). |
None of the fees we've been involved with have ever been big enough to really be bothered about the structure before. | |
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| £37.5m feels somewhat light on 22:23 - Aug 14 with 579 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| £37.5m feels somewhat light on 22:18 - Aug 14 by Herbivore |
Chelsea at home he was excellent too. |
Yes I think the guy said he would "give me" Chelsea.
Omari had a talent I have not seen from many other Ipswich players over the years. He had defenders Sh*t scared with the ball at his feet in the box, gilded by them at times, and I am not just talking about lower half championship players either. | |
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| £37.5m feels somewhat light on 22:25 - Aug 14 with 561 views | itfcsuth |
| £37.5m feels somewhat light on 22:13 - Aug 14 by BarcaBlue |
Do you actually watch much football? Some of your posts recently suggest you might not. |
There’s probably not a person on this forum who watches more football than me - can ask the Mrs, she’ll vouch for that! |  | | |
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| £37.5m feels somewhat light on 22:25 - Aug 14 with 554 views | Herbivore |
| £37.5m feels somewhat light on 22:23 - Aug 14 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Yes I think the guy said he would "give me" Chelsea.
Omari had a talent I have not seen from many other Ipswich players over the years. He had defenders Sh*t scared with the ball at his feet in the box, gilded by them at times, and I am not just talking about lower half championship players either. |
There were a few games where he looked the best player on the pitch, not even the best player in a Town shirt. Some of those games were against very established Prem sides. He probably didn't do it as often as we'd have liked, but those saying he didn't look up to the Prem are WAY off the mark. Put him in a more capable team and he'll look very good. | |
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| £37.5m feels somewhat light on 22:26 - Aug 14 with 549 views | Herbivore |
| £37.5m feels somewhat light on 22:25 - Aug 14 by itfcsuth |
There’s probably not a person on this forum who watches more football than me - can ask the Mrs, she’ll vouch for that! |
Does she have to explain what's happening to you? | |
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| £37.5m feels somewhat light on 22:28 - Aug 14 with 533 views | itfcsuth |
| £37.5m feels somewhat light on 22:16 - Aug 14 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
That's enough TWTD for me today! |
They’re paying just over £22m for James McAtee, but £37.5m for Omari.
I don’t need to say anymore than that. | | | |
| £37.5m feels somewhat light on 22:30 - Aug 14 with 508 views | Horsham |
| £37.5m feels somewhat light on 21:58 - Aug 14 by bsw72 |
I’d be very surprised if our controllership would allow 4.5m write off for a deal concluded hours before end of financial year. How Chelsea treat the transfer and how we treat it from an accounting standpoint will be very different.
Not saying they can’t but unlikely and we will only know once results are published. |
Was included in the 23/24 accounts. |  | | |
| £37.5m feels somewhat light on 22:31 - Aug 14 with 501 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| £37.5m feels somewhat light on 22:25 - Aug 14 by Herbivore |
There were a few games where he looked the best player on the pitch, not even the best player in a Town shirt. Some of those games were against very established Prem sides. He probably didn't do it as often as we'd have liked, but those saying he didn't look up to the Prem are WAY off the mark. Put him in a more capable team and he'll look very good. |
Yes! | |
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| £37.5m feels somewhat light on 22:35 - Aug 14 with 467 views | _clive_baker_ |
| £37.5m feels somewhat light on 22:15 - Aug 14 by SuffolkPunchFC |
Just looked at the 23/24 accounts, and £26.3M appears under intangible assets (where transfer costs, agent fees, etc appear) which has to include Hutch. So definitely recognised in the 23/24 accounts, so presumably (and I’m not an accountant) the first 1/5th write down would also be in the same year? |
It’s amortised on a straight line basis over the length of the contract, so doesn’t really make much odds when he signed in that respect. In other words if a player signed in mid June then 2 weeks worth would hit that year.
It’s relevant on sale though, the profit / loss on disposal would hit the year the sale happened. |  | | |
| £37.5m feels somewhat light on 22:43 - Aug 14 with 440 views | joshITFCporter |
For anyone crazy enough to say that 37.5M for Omari isn't great:
Arsenal have never sold a player for 37.5M
This would be Man U's 3rd highest sale
Ipswich as a club were sold to Gamechanger for 40m just 4 years ago |  |
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| £37.5m feels somewhat light on 00:10 - Aug 15 with 363 views | berkstractorboy |
| £37.5m feels somewhat light on 22:28 - Aug 14 by itfcsuth |
They’re paying just over £22m for James McAtee, but £37.5m for Omari.
I don’t need to say anymore than that. |
One is in the last year of his contract the other isn't. I'll let you work out which is which ... | | | |
| £37.5m feels somewhat light on 09:57 - Aug 15 with 155 views | itfcsuth |
| £37.5m feels somewhat light on 00:10 - Aug 15 by berkstractorboy |
One is in the last year of his contract the other isn't. I'll let you work out which is which ... |
That isn't really my point.
What my point is is that there are far better options than Omari for £37.5m for PL clubs, like McAtee (in his final year), to do really smart business.
37.5m for Omari, is a very good return for the club. In no way has his value almost doubled in the past season based on his PL performances. | | | |
| £37.5m feels somewhat light on 10:00 - Aug 15 with 141 views | Herbivore |
| £37.5m feels somewhat light on 09:57 - Aug 15 by itfcsuth |
That isn't really my point.
What my point is is that there are far better options than Omari for £37.5m for PL clubs, like McAtee (in his final year), to do really smart business.
37.5m for Omari, is a very good return for the club. In no way has his value almost doubled in the past season based on his PL performances. |
Clearly it has, or Forest wouldn't be paying it. His value is whatever people are prepared to stump up for him. | |
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| £37.5m feels somewhat light on 10:23 - Aug 15 with 95 views | positivity |
| £37.5m feels somewhat light on 22:25 - Aug 14 by Herbivore |
There were a few games where he looked the best player on the pitch, not even the best player in a Town shirt. Some of those games were against very established Prem sides. He probably didn't do it as often as we'd have liked, but those saying he didn't look up to the Prem are WAY off the mark. Put him in a more capable team and he'll look very good. |
as shown by his performances in the u-21 world cup with better players | |
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| £37.5m feels somewhat light on 10:24 - Aug 15 with 89 views | berkstractorboy |
| £37.5m feels somewhat light on 09:57 - Aug 15 by itfcsuth |
That isn't really my point.
What my point is is that there are far better options than Omari for £37.5m for PL clubs, like McAtee (in his final year), to do really smart business.
37.5m for Omari, is a very good return for the club. In no way has his value almost doubled in the past season based on his PL performances. |
Agreed and I thought Forest had turned to getting a winger from overseas so surprised back in for Omari with the UK tax added to his price. I think the U21s performances will have helped to enhance his price, argument being surrounded by better players look what Omari can do. | | | |
| £37.5m feels somewhat light on 10:28 - Aug 15 with 60 views | Herbivore |
| £37.5m feels somewhat light on 10:23 - Aug 15 by positivity |
as shown by his performances in the u-21 world cup with better players |
Think that's more the level of the opposition and playing against peers rather than seasoned world class footballers. You put that England under-21 team in the Prem and it does worse than Southampton, imo. Not that they aren't talented players, but they would get bullied off the park most weeks, and in a few positions they would be well out of their depth in the Prem. | |
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