| Morsy Speaks 12:32 - Aug 15 with 5032 views | le2blue |
A lot of sense here Skip...
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| Morsy Speaks on 13:48 - Aug 15 with 910 views | townblue |
I'm a bit confused by it.
There is something that happens in football but not to Omari or even with the club's current management and that somehow justifies the reverse action. Makes sense. |  | | |
| Morsy Speaks on 14:06 - Aug 15 with 836 views | nshearman1 |
| Morsy Speaks on 13:48 - Aug 15 by townblue |
I'm a bit confused by it.
There is something that happens in football but not to Omari or even with the club's current management and that somehow justifies the reverse action. Makes sense. |
I find this whole thing really weird. Samy had no need to get involved but seems to have a personal beef with the club. Clearly there are two different scenarios there with Broady and Omari, so lumping them together is also strange. Perhaps Samy was reacting to Butcher's somewhat old-fashioned rhetoric. Personally, I think it's been a very tricky situation for McKenna in particular to handle. Effectively, both players went on strike with 'sore throats' and 'illness'. So the club has done what they wanted, moved them on, got a decent profit and we continue to re-build the team. We should just leave it there. But something doesn't feel quite right in all this. |  | | |
| Morsy Speaks on 14:07 - Aug 15 with 836 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Morsy Speaks on 14:06 - Aug 15 by nshearman1 |
I find this whole thing really weird. Samy had no need to get involved but seems to have a personal beef with the club. Clearly there are two different scenarios there with Broady and Omari, so lumping them together is also strange. Perhaps Samy was reacting to Butcher's somewhat old-fashioned rhetoric. Personally, I think it's been a very tricky situation for McKenna in particular to handle. Effectively, both players went on strike with 'sore throats' and 'illness'. So the club has done what they wanted, moved them on, got a decent profit and we continue to re-build the team. We should just leave it there. But something doesn't feel quite right in all this. |
Notice how he makes sure he mentions how great the manager was...........
haven't seen any mentions of anyone else.......... |  |
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| Morsy Speaks on 14:09 - Aug 15 with 821 views | FrimleyBlue |
My take on it and based on some recent news reports
Forest given permission to speak to hutch, terms agreed
town were offered 35mill but we stalled as wanted more
we've finally agreed on the 37.5
Morsy probably means we should have just taken the 35 that was offered and this whole mess wouldnt have happened, all for the sake of a couple mill. | |
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| Morsy Speaks on 14:18 - Aug 15 with 782 views | TractorJack |
Fair play that Broady came on against Birm but are we ignoring that he called in sick on the morning of the cup game? |  | | |
| Morsy Speaks on 14:20 - Aug 15 with 770 views | jasondozzell |
| Morsy Speaks on 14:06 - Aug 15 by nshearman1 |
I find this whole thing really weird. Samy had no need to get involved but seems to have a personal beef with the club. Clearly there are two different scenarios there with Broady and Omari, so lumping them together is also strange. Perhaps Samy was reacting to Butcher's somewhat old-fashioned rhetoric. Personally, I think it's been a very tricky situation for McKenna in particular to handle. Effectively, both players went on strike with 'sore throats' and 'illness'. So the club has done what they wanted, moved them on, got a decent profit and we continue to re-build the team. We should just leave it there. But something doesn't feel quite right in all this. |
To be fair, on reflection I think a big part of it is that he just wants to defend Omari and point out that it's a bit more complex than it might look.
He's talking about the reality of football. It's not nice but it's the reality at times |  | | |
| Morsy Speaks on 14:23 - Aug 15 with 734 views | ernie |
| Morsy Speaks on 14:06 - Aug 15 by nshearman1 |
I find this whole thing really weird. Samy had no need to get involved but seems to have a personal beef with the club. Clearly there are two different scenarios there with Broady and Omari, so lumping them together is also strange. Perhaps Samy was reacting to Butcher's somewhat old-fashioned rhetoric. Personally, I think it's been a very tricky situation for McKenna in particular to handle. Effectively, both players went on strike with 'sore throats' and 'illness'. So the club has done what they wanted, moved them on, got a decent profit and we continue to re-build the team. We should just leave it there. But something doesn't feel quite right in all this. |
He’s clearly using the cover of the more recent transfer outgoings to vent about his own departure. | | | |
| Morsy Speaks on 14:25 - Aug 15 with 726 views | berkstractorboy |
| Morsy Speaks on 12:38 - Aug 15 by The_Romford_Blue |
I like Morsy as much as the next Towen fan but I can’t help but think the first half of this is nonsense.
There’s absolutely no suggestion anywhere that Towen did any of those things so Omari had no right to affectively go on strike. All we wanted was for him to do the job he was paid to do. The people around Omari are the issue. |
It was great to get a players perspective but i am sure its very carefully worded.
Where I take (minor) issue with Morsy's words is around the point if the offer is close there should be flex with the club. On normal deals I am sure the club may understand the desire to move to certain clubs and possibly flex price. A bit like the reported agreement Sesko had with Leipzig about 'special' clubs.
For Omari he had a clear release clause in contract with specific payment conditions attached to the price. The agent 100% knew all of this. Therefore it's the agents job to make sure interested clubs are aware of all conditions of the release clause. So the club has every right to reject an offer not fully meeting the clause and there should be no suggestion the club could be doing wrong especially as the release clause is likely to be under what the club values the player.
Omari should only have issue with his agent in this case and not with the club. It is wrong for Morsy to infer the club could be culpable, its's clear here the agent failed to do their job.
In all this saga the agent (probably) hasn't done their job well and based on their incompetence then unsettle the player and somehow it could be suggested the club could have made this smoother. Not sure I agree on that. [Post edited 15 Aug 14:39]
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| Morsy Speaks on 14:26 - Aug 15 with 724 views | Metal_Hacker |
I just don't know why he's got involved in the first place
Sadly he's gone but he's gone all the same
Let sleeping dogs lie and all that |  |
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| Morsy Speaks on 14:30 - Aug 15 with 686 views | Deano69 |
| Morsy Speaks on 12:45 - Aug 15 by ipswichtillidie |
He played and scored for them your correct. Many examples of pre Madonna’s and actual professional football players. Omari is just one example sadly. Can’t wish him well, will jeer him and I won’t be alone. |
Pre what? |  |
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| Morsy Speaks on 14:41 - Aug 15 with 641 views | Wright1 |
I love Sam, I really do... but are we going to have him putting his 2 pence in any time something happens at Town? I'm not really here for it. | | | |
| Morsy Speaks on 14:44 - Aug 15 with 626 views | stiff_talking |
| Morsy Speaks on 12:52 - Aug 15 by pointofblue |
Though even Samy admits it should have been handed better.
I wonder why he brings up "political based"? |
The Omari departure wasn’t the issue with the fans. It was the fact he wouldn’t play in preseason and at the start of the season. This was a decision that should have been smoother. | | | |
| Morsy Speaks on 15:13 - Aug 15 with 566 views | SouthBucksBlue |
| Morsy Speaks on 12:51 - Aug 15 by Damster |
Strange to talk about a situation entirely different and 100% opposite to the scenario being faced. Referencing the “ugly side” but no mention of the players contractual obligation.
Love Morsy but don’t get this at all?? |
I agree. Doesn’t seem particularly relevant to me especially as we’re the kind of club who did not ask for a fee so that Morsy’s move could be best facilitated. | | | |
| Morsy Speaks on 15:22 - Aug 15 with 534 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Morsy Speaks on 12:50 - Aug 15 by FrimleyBlue |
Tbh. I dont know why KM was so vocal about omari and not wanting to play.
Should have just said omari was Injured and then when move completed we'd all know it was bullux
No real need for KM to tell the world that he didn't want to play |
I find the honesty refreshing |  |
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| Morsy Speaks on 15:31 - Aug 15 with 509 views | pointofblue |
| Morsy Speaks on 14:18 - Aug 15 by TractorJack |
Fair play that Broady came on against Birm but are we ignoring that he called in sick on the morning of the cup game? |
I love how it's being consistently suggested that Broadhead was lying and not actually ill. Maybe that's right, but there's no proof of it and he showed up at Birmingham. | |
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| Morsy Speaks on 15:55 - Aug 15 with 455 views | SamWhiteUK |
| Morsy Speaks on 12:52 - Aug 15 by Zx1988 |
The mention of 'political reasons' feels particularly interesting.
I'm still not 100% convinced that the club was too disappointed to lose Morsy, given his outspoken views on Gaza and LGBTQ+ issues, and it may well have played a part in allowing him to move on for no fee.
The Kuwait FC approach essentially spared ITFC's blushes. |
Whoops, clicked the wrong arrow. Meant to be down. |  | | |
| Morsy Speaks on 15:57 - Aug 15 with 445 views | SamWhiteUK |
| Morsy Speaks on 14:23 - Aug 15 by ernie |
He’s clearly using the cover of the more recent transfer outgoings to vent about his own departure. |
Oh yes, clearly, there's no other possible explanation.
Give me a break. | | | |
| Morsy Speaks on 16:33 - Aug 15 with 407 views | solemio |
I didn't realise that OH was a First Lady (prima donna). | | | |
| Morsy Speaks on 17:03 - Aug 15 with 371 views | LeoMuff |
| Morsy Speaks on 14:09 - Aug 15 by FrimleyBlue |
My take on it and based on some recent news reports
Forest given permission to speak to hutch, terms agreed
town were offered 35mill but we stalled as wanted more
we've finally agreed on the 37.5
Morsy probably means we should have just taken the 35 that was offered and this whole mess wouldnt have happened, all for the sake of a couple mill. |
No chance, write of 2.5mil because Kia Joorabchian tells us to. Feck that. |  |
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| Morsy Speaks on 17:06 - Aug 15 with 356 views | Libero |
| Morsy Speaks on 14:23 - Aug 15 by ernie |
He’s clearly using the cover of the more recent transfer outgoings to vent about his own departure. |
Yes, it's rather transparent and I'm not really sure it's appropriate - but what can you do! Seems that subtext is whizzing past a lot of people, mind you. |  | | |
| Morsy Speaks on 17:15 - Aug 15 with 330 views | ITFC_1988 |
| Morsy Speaks on 17:03 - Aug 15 by LeoMuff |
No chance, write of 2.5mil because Kia Joorabchian tells us to. Feck that. |
I don’t think it’s about ceding to the demands of the agent. If the transfer was wrapped up for £35m much earlier in the window, we wouldn’t have had all the disruption and funds would then be available to strengthen the squad at a much earlier stage. I appreciate that the make up of the deals, I.e money up front etc. may have been an issue, but would have been better for all concerned to have had this wrapped up a month ago, even for £2.5m less. | | | |
| Morsy Speaks on 17:48 - Aug 15 with 269 views | Zx1988 |
| Morsy Speaks on 14:23 - Aug 15 by ernie |
He’s clearly using the cover of the more recent transfer outgoings to vent about his own departure. |
There's certainly something about it that doesn't add up.
With the various bits and pieces that are being done on the basis that 'the club needs every penny from a PSR perspective' (taking a commercial sponsor on the back of the shirt, rather than giving it to the Foundation again), it feels rather against the grain that the club would allow Morsy to leave on a free, in particular to a club that will have plenty of money.
SM's singling out of McKenna for praise (and nobody else) does rather lend credence to the thought that those higher up in the club felt that not getting a fee for SM was a small price to pay in order to move him on. | |
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| Morsy Speaks on 18:19 - Aug 15 with 234 views | nshearman1 |
| Morsy Speaks on 17:15 - Aug 15 by ITFC_1988 |
I don’t think it’s about ceding to the demands of the agent. If the transfer was wrapped up for £35m much earlier in the window, we wouldn’t have had all the disruption and funds would then be available to strengthen the squad at a much earlier stage. I appreciate that the make up of the deals, I.e money up front etc. may have been an issue, but would have been better for all concerned to have had this wrapped up a month ago, even for £2.5m less. |
McKenna's latest comments suggest that the dodgy 'agent', who manages (owns?) Omari and has plenty of history, has a lot to answer for. But no chance of that with the FA, EUFA, or FIFA. | | | |
| Morsy Speaks on 18:52 - Aug 15 with 204 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Morsy Speaks on 14:06 - Aug 15 by nshearman1 |
I find this whole thing really weird. Samy had no need to get involved but seems to have a personal beef with the club. Clearly there are two different scenarios there with Broady and Omari, so lumping them together is also strange. Perhaps Samy was reacting to Butcher's somewhat old-fashioned rhetoric. Personally, I think it's been a very tricky situation for McKenna in particular to handle. Effectively, both players went on strike with 'sore throats' and 'illness'. So the club has done what they wanted, moved them on, got a decent profit and we continue to re-build the team. We should just leave it there. But something doesn't feel quite right in all this. |
Why do you think Morsy has beef with the club? | |
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| Morsy Speaks on 20:52 - Aug 15 with 109 views | nshearman1 |
| Morsy Speaks on 18:52 - Aug 15 by Swansea_Blue |
Why do you think Morsy has beef with the club? |
I'm not sure how else to see it - why stick his oar in in the first place when it's obvious it's been a delicate dance on both sides? He spends three sentences (quite long on X) describing what it's like when a club no longer wants you (which is patently not the case with Hutchinson, McKenna has made that very clear). And he keeps repeatedly talking about 'the club' when it must be obvious to someone of his experience that the post itself is hardly likely to help 'the club' with the current negotiations. | | | |
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