| Bed wetting about central midfielders 12:49 - Aug 19 with 1723 views | BouncebackIpswich |
No links and no rumours apart from Hackney, all the new links are for other positions. If we don't get 1 top quality CM in and probably 2 really needed it will most likely cost promotion, so there's a lot at stake here |  | | |  |
| Bed wetting about central midfielders on 12:51 - Aug 19 with 1672 views | _clive_baker_ |
Bed wetters need to wobble their heads.
Or something like that. |  | | |
| Bed wetting about central midfielders on 12:54 - Aug 19 with 1640 views | Horsham |
No rumours apart from Billing, Miley and Cook.
I’d say we need a minimum of one - more of a need for quality over quantity. Taylor and Humphreys being ok but not for prominent roles. |  | | |
| Bed wetting about central midfielders on 12:58 - Aug 19 with 1551 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Bed wetting about central midfielders on 12:54 - Aug 19 by Horsham |
No rumours apart from Billing, Miley and Cook.
I’d say we need a minimum of one - more of a need for quality over quantity. Taylor and Humphreys being ok but not for prominent roles. |
And Hackney.
And anyway, even if we weren't hearing anything it doesn't mean nothing's happening. |  |
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| Bed wetting about central midfielders on 13:06 - Aug 19 with 1406 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
To be fair with Matusiwa and Cajuste as first choice, most of our competitors can only dream of that.
Taylor played well against our promotion rivals. We probably just need one more in, and no doubt thats being worked on.
Chill out dude. |  |
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| Bed wetting about central midfielders on 13:13 - Aug 19 with 1320 views | itfcsuth |
Cajuste will be ready by Derby for starting I think.
Matusiwa and Cajuste as a partnership at this level should, should be outrageous.
Only need an understudy to Matusiwa, the club will know that, but finding a good understudy is probably a difficult task. |  | | |
| Bed wetting about central midfielders on 13:20 - Aug 19 with 1225 views | NedPlimpton |
| Bed wetting about central midfielders on 13:13 - Aug 19 by itfcsuth |
Cajuste will be ready by Derby for starting I think.
Matusiwa and Cajuste as a partnership at this level should, should be outrageous.
Only need an understudy to Matusiwa, the club will know that, but finding a good understudy is probably a difficult task. |
I do wonder what some of our targets will make of Matusiwa and Cajuste and struggle to see how they break into the starting line up
It's not really a position we want to be rotating. Morsy and Mass played almost the entirety of two seasons together and that partnership was absolutely crucial to our double promotion. Who drops to the bench if we bring in someone of Hackney's quality? |  | | |
| Bed wetting about central midfielders on 13:21 - Aug 19 with 1213 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Bed wetting about central midfielders on 13:13 - Aug 19 by itfcsuth |
Cajuste will be ready by Derby for starting I think.
Matusiwa and Cajuste as a partnership at this level should, should be outrageous.
Only need an understudy to Matusiwa, the club will know that, but finding a good understudy is probably a difficult task. |
Hackney would learn a lot from those two, but I suspect that his head would have a bit of a wobble at being the 'understudy'  |  | | |
| Bed wetting about central midfielders on 13:21 - Aug 19 with 1215 views | IP1Blue |
| Bed wetting about central midfielders on 13:13 - Aug 19 by itfcsuth |
Cajuste will be ready by Derby for starting I think.
Matusiwa and Cajuste as a partnership at this level should, should be outrageous.
Only need an understudy to Matusiwa, the club will know that, but finding a good understudy is probably a difficult task. |
Why is everyone saying that Matusiwa is going to be’ outragous’ for this level.the first 2 games he has looked a bit shakey at times. I’m not saying he won’t be good but I do think he needs time to adjust to everything here. 95% of us hadn’t of heard before he signed so I don’t think we should say we only need an understudy if we think better is out there.
This isn’t me bashing Matusiwa, I’m just saying we need to give him time before we can really pass judgement on how good he is. | | | |
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| Bed wetting about central midfielders on 13:23 - Aug 19 with 1174 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Bed wetting about central midfielders on 13:20 - Aug 19 by NedPlimpton |
I do wonder what some of our targets will make of Matusiwa and Cajuste and struggle to see how they break into the starting line up
It's not really a position we want to be rotating. Morsy and Mass played almost the entirety of two seasons together and that partnership was absolutely crucial to our double promotion. Who drops to the bench if we bring in someone of Hackney's quality? |
I don't think we're in the business of targeting 'understudies'. Aside from Townsend its not really been the modus operandi, I think we'll be targeting players we believe can come in to improve us and dislodge others from the team. We saw what Cajuste can do but he has had injury issues in the past and the Championship is a gruelling season. Matusiwa should be effective and we paid a lot of money, but he's got it all to prove.
CM is a problem area, we need at least 1 big addition in there who can come in and start. | | | |
| Bed wetting about central midfielders on 13:29 - Aug 19 with 1100 views | NedPlimpton |
| Bed wetting about central midfielders on 13:23 - Aug 19 by _clive_baker_ |
I don't think we're in the business of targeting 'understudies'. Aside from Townsend its not really been the modus operandi, I think we'll be targeting players we believe can come in to improve us and dislodge others from the team. We saw what Cajuste can do but he has had injury issues in the past and the Championship is a gruelling season. Matusiwa should be effective and we paid a lot of money, but he's got it all to prove.
CM is a problem area, we need at least 1 big addition in there who can come in and start. |
I think there's evidence to suggest that we have targeted understudies, albeit not many. Kipre being one from the most recent window
But regardless of whether we are or aren't targeting understudies, someone still has to play that role whether it's one of the current pair or a new signing. My point being that any new signing will know they have to dislodge some pretty impressive players at this level | | | |
| Bed wetting about central midfielders on 13:29 - Aug 19 with 1090 views | BouncebackIpswich |
| Bed wetting about central midfielders on 13:20 - Aug 19 by NedPlimpton |
I do wonder what some of our targets will make of Matusiwa and Cajuste and struggle to see how they break into the starting line up
It's not really a position we want to be rotating. Morsy and Mass played almost the entirety of two seasons together and that partnership was absolutely crucial to our double promotion. Who drops to the bench if we bring in someone of Hackney's quality? |
Just takes one injury, and with Cajustes knee and the way Matusiwa plays you wouldn't rule that out. | | | |
| Bed wetting about central midfielders on 13:33 - Aug 19 with 1023 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Bed wetting about central midfielders on 13:29 - Aug 19 by NedPlimpton |
I think there's evidence to suggest that we have targeted understudies, albeit not many. Kipre being one from the most recent window
But regardless of whether we are or aren't targeting understudies, someone still has to play that role whether it's one of the current pair or a new signing. My point being that any new signing will know they have to dislodge some pretty impressive players at this level |
I think some have come in and proven to have their chances somewhat limited, Jack Clarke probably being an example, but they weren't necessarily signed as understudies. I think generally we've spent out on players we think can come in and improve on what we've got already.
Kipre possibly is an exception, and had Burgess agreed to stay I dare say he wouldn't be here at all. That said it wouldn't surprise me massively if he establishes himself in the side at some point.
There's a lot of talk about Cajuste & Matusiwa being the preferred partnership, as of today I make that right, but I wouldn't be surprised if its a partnership we don't actually see starting too many games together. I think there's another big one to come in there and it won't be someone designed to sit on the bench. | | | |
| Bed wetting about central midfielders on 13:36 - Aug 19 with 972 views | SheffordBlue |
| Bed wetting about central midfielders on 13:33 - Aug 19 by _clive_baker_ |
I think some have come in and proven to have their chances somewhat limited, Jack Clarke probably being an example, but they weren't necessarily signed as understudies. I think generally we've spent out on players we think can come in and improve on what we've got already.
Kipre possibly is an exception, and had Burgess agreed to stay I dare say he wouldn't be here at all. That said it wouldn't surprise me massively if he establishes himself in the side at some point.
There's a lot of talk about Cajuste & Matusiwa being the preferred partnership, as of today I make that right, but I wouldn't be surprised if its a partnership we don't actually see starting too many games together. I think there's another big one to come in there and it won't be someone designed to sit on the bench. |
Agree - if we were to get someone like Billing over the line then who is the regular pairing? With 2 game weeks I think in the earlier part of the season we may also see a bit more rotation in the more dynamic of the CM roles. | |
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| Bed wetting about central midfielders on 13:45 - Aug 19 with 825 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Bed wetting about central midfielders on 13:36 - Aug 19 by SheffordBlue |
Agree - if we were to get someone like Billing over the line then who is the regular pairing? With 2 game weeks I think in the earlier part of the season we may also see a bit more rotation in the more dynamic of the CM roles. |
I think if McKenna was honest he probably wouldn't want Taylor as anything more than 5th, at a push 4th choice in there and Humphreys as a young and versatile development project, giving some cover as well as cover at LB and #10. He's handy. That leaves us 1 or 2 short in the middle and McKenna has already alluded to incomings in there.
If a Hackney joined then he's coming here to start 9 times out of 10 when fit and available. Same is probably true of Billing, a battle hardened and vastly experienced player who won't trade Muff's bench for ours.
Depending on the profile of who we sign will probably dictate where they slot in and who is most likely to partner them. I think we'll have to manage minutes, not least for Cajuste, so there will be plenty of rotation and we'll need depth. | | | |
| Bed wetting about central midfielders on 13:46 - Aug 19 with 812 views | artsbossbeard |
No bed wetting here. I'll leave that to those who are new to the ITFC, indeed football, thing. We are going to be more than fine. |  |
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| Bed wetting about central midfielders on 13:53 - Aug 19 with 704 views | NedPlimpton |
| Bed wetting about central midfielders on 13:45 - Aug 19 by _clive_baker_ |
I think if McKenna was honest he probably wouldn't want Taylor as anything more than 5th, at a push 4th choice in there and Humphreys as a young and versatile development project, giving some cover as well as cover at LB and #10. He's handy. That leaves us 1 or 2 short in the middle and McKenna has already alluded to incomings in there.
If a Hackney joined then he's coming here to start 9 times out of 10 when fit and available. Same is probably true of Billing, a battle hardened and vastly experienced player who won't trade Muff's bench for ours.
Depending on the profile of who we sign will probably dictate where they slot in and who is most likely to partner them. I think we'll have to manage minutes, not least for Cajuste, so there will be plenty of rotation and we'll need depth. |
I don't think you're wrong in terms of the quality of player we'll be looking at. I just feel like the pedigree of the pairing at the moment may leave anyone else wondering how they fit in | | | |
| Bed wetting about central midfielders on 13:54 - Aug 19 with 700 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Bed wetting about central midfielders on 13:21 - Aug 19 by IP1Blue |
Why is everyone saying that Matusiwa is going to be’ outragous’ for this level.the first 2 games he has looked a bit shakey at times. I’m not saying he won’t be good but I do think he needs time to adjust to everything here. 95% of us hadn’t of heard before he signed so I don’t think we should say we only need an understudy if we think better is out there.
This isn’t me bashing Matusiwa, I’m just saying we need to give him time before we can really pass judgement on how good he is. |
Any CM who has been purchased for c.£8m 'should' be very good at this level.
He has a lot of top level experience, and a good track record.
Of course there is no certainty, but he 'should' be very good at this level if our recruitment teams judgement is any good.
P.S. 'EVERYONE' is not saying that he will be outrageous. [Post edited 19 Aug 13:55]
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| Bed wetting about central midfielders on 13:54 - Aug 19 with 696 views | PioneerBlue |
No bed wetting.
High quality CMf is required to provide the minimum 4 experienced players, allowing Humphries to play 5th man Cmf role | |
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| Bed wetting about central midfielders on 14:11 - Aug 19 with 559 views | wischip |
We've played 2 League games and in both our central midfielders picked up yellow cards. It's where we are targeted by the opposition. To stand a better chance of finishing games strong we need that 3rd reliable option off the bench. Morsy was very good at walking that yellow tightrope & staying on. Can Azor and Jens do the same ? I dunno yet. [Post edited 19 Aug 14:19]
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| Bed wetting about central midfielders on 14:21 - Aug 19 with 456 views | Garv |
| Bed wetting about central midfielders on 14:11 - Aug 19 by wischip |
We've played 2 League games and in both our central midfielders picked up yellow cards. It's where we are targeted by the opposition. To stand a better chance of finishing games strong we need that 3rd reliable option off the bench. Morsy was very good at walking that yellow tightrope & staying on. Can Azor and Jens do the same ? I dunno yet. [Post edited 19 Aug 14:19]
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Pretty sure three of those four yellows were for dissent or getting in scraps (Taylor v Birmingham). |  |
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| Bed wetting about central midfielders on 14:56 - Aug 19 with 305 views | bsw72 |
| Bed wetting about central midfielders on 14:11 - Aug 19 by wischip |
We've played 2 League games and in both our central midfielders picked up yellow cards. It's where we are targeted by the opposition. To stand a better chance of finishing games strong we need that 3rd reliable option off the bench. Morsy was very good at walking that yellow tightrope & staying on. Can Azor and Jens do the same ? I dunno yet. [Post edited 19 Aug 14:19]
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Both the yellows on Saturday were for dissent, and Azor's yellow vs Brum was what I would consider a "good" yellow which broke up a Brum breakaway attack.
Taylor's temperament worries me, he seems a little easy for the opposition to trigger.
I agree we need at least one additional midfield regular, but am hoping that we may start to see increased contributions from Humphreys and possibly Barbrook on occasions. |  | | |
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